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Very quiet in here today! Unacceptably poor night for ITV again last night, I think Cops With Cameras is tired and needs to be axed. The Frost documentary should do better for them next week. I'm surprised at how badly Law & Order is repeating, I really thought it would get 3.5m or so for repeats. Maybe it would on a different day? Hammond did decently again, and strong for One Born Every Minute, which has been a big hit for C4. Blood and Oil did well for BBC2, but the 8pm hour is struggling, as neither show is strong enough to do particularly well without a good lead in. Five did OK, although CSI is severely down on last year. Stand out rating of the night is for the football, which did superbly.
I notice Millionaire is returning to the Tuesday 8pm slot in 2 weeks time, despite it struggling there in the Autumn. Then again, even the 3.5m or so it was gettng is a good bit better than anything they've had there this year so far, and Children's Hospital seems to be doing better than Grimefighters and The Krypton Factor were in the 7.30pm slot so it may improve this time. |
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Although still better than most UK dramas, surprised to see Shameless still doing so well considering this series is once again suffering from being 16 episodes long (it's 22 next year too!). I've always thought since C4 doubled it's number of episodes back in series 5 they'd be better off airing it in two blocks of eight, airing half the series in the autumn instead.
Good ratings for Children's Hospital against EastEnders last night too - it's pretty clear from the last year or so that the shows which do well in those slots are the type of shows ITV have done for years at a regional level - Countrywise, The Lakes etc., whilst attempts at more popular entertainment aren't as successful in the slot. |
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A pretty uninspiring Tuesday (surprise surprise!). EastEnders is solid but had dropped somewhat. Holby seems to have had a good 2010 though, and the Richard Hammond thing pulled about what I expected from it. The share seems very solid indeed, even if the numbers aren't great.
Millionaire should help ITV1 a little, but the Law and Order repeats just aren't cutting it. You'd have thought they were perfect repeat fodder. The smaller terrestrials benefit again - Blood and Oil on BBC Two while Channel 4 and Five had relatively strong nights. |
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Millionaire should help ITV1 a little, but the Law and Order repeats just aren't cutting it. You'd have thought they were perfect repeat fodder.
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Just checking the figures. I *think* the share reported by DS for Richard Hammond is incorrect. It should be 16.4% not the 23.3% that DS has reported.
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ok what annoys me is the ratings roundup by DS is getting lazy...
Can anyone please inform me of ratings for the following: 90210 - e4 21.00 tue 30/03/10 JLC: Good Times - Five - Mon 29/03/10 cheers |
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ok what annoys me is the ratings roundup by DS is getting lazy...
Can anyone please inform me of ratings for the following: 90210 - e4 21.00 tue 30/03/10 JLC: Good Times - Five - Mon 29/03/10 cheers Mon Five Justin Lee Collins: Good Times - 0.6m (3.2%) Tues E4 90210 - 242k E4 [inc +1] 90210 - 359k (1.5%) |
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It's definitely part of it, particularly for MSNBC who are pro-Democrat.
That being said, FOXN did grow during the Bush years. And with CNN, I'm not sure that viewers would move to FOX News. It's a huge leap. I guess they must just be bored of CNN. It's funny how FOX network isn't remotely conservative. Indeed, the Parents Television Council (Mary Whitehouse but crazier) tend to reserve their harshest criticism for FOX. I think Family Guy is the most common feature in their "worst of the week" column. They were outraged at Glee, which is apparently not suitable for teenage audiences! CNN Domestic should be praised for their decision not to take a political stand point like FNC and MSNBC but they can't ignore the fact that CNN is far from perfect and has a very dated, dull feel to it. I don't think they need to drop their non-biased stance to achieve better ratings but they should shake things up in their schedule, particularly prime time to actually offer audiences something different. The time has perhaps come to move some of HLN's personalities to CNN or, more preferably, to present the quality work of their journalist in a better more coherent way in prime time and to drop underperforming shows like Campbell Brown and dare I say it Larry King. The launch of 'John King, USA' while positive is not really anything new. Yet another political show. |
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I can't say I'm too surprised about the Law and Order UK repeat figure. Just over 2m was what I expected of it. All the episodes did get good figures when they were first shown and that was just over a year ago now. Maybe they could try repeating Married, Single Other in that Tuesday 9pm slot in the future. Its ratings were lower than that of L&O:UK so it may do better if it was repeated.
Hollyoaks continues to do poorly but I'm confident Paul Marquess will get the figures back up around the autumn time. Heartbeat is doing well for ITV3, nearly hitting 500,000. |
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Ah ok, cheers.
Imagine if a religious festival took precedence here...the BBC might do something like move a Formula One race halfway through just to hear from some holy figure...![]() (Sorry, D.M.N. )![]() Unspectacular night last night really. |
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Shameless is doing so well. Miss Dahl is so sickly sweet.
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US Ratings - Tuesday 30th March
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8pm - Dancing With The Stars Results - 14.09m (2.9) * 47% lower with A18-49 than Mondays performance show * 38% lower in total viewers 9pm - Lost - 10.06m (4.0) * Should start rising as it approaches finale * Will compete against Glee when American Idol goes to 1 hour 10pm - V - 7.29m (2.9) * Down 6% from midseason finale * Fell from 3.2 in first 30 mins to 2.7 in last 30 mins CBS: Repeats FOX: 8pm - American Idol - 21.33m (7.5) * Down 11% from last week * Overran, so likely to be revised upwards * Needs about 23m to be #1 show of the week (ahead of DWTS - Mon) NBC: 8pm - The Biggest Loser - 7.36m (2.8) * Placed 3rd in both the 8pm and 9pm hours (A18-49) * 3 reality shows at 8pm could be causing some of the decline 10pm - Parenthood - 6.27m (2.5) * Down from a 2.7 rating last week tvbythenumbers |
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8pm - Dancing With The Stars Results - 14.09m (2.9) * 47% lower with A18-49 than Mondays performance show * 38% lower in total viewers |
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Would ITV1 not be better sticking a two hour repeat of Midsummer Murders or something on Tuesdays instead? I'm pretty sure that'd rate higher than the current line-up from 8-10pm...
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Jesus what happened there?!
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30th March 2010
Further ratings: BBC1 21:00 Richard Hammond's Invisible Worlds - 4.02m (23.3% Channel 4 [inc +1] 18:00 The Simpsons - 2.06m 18:30 Hollyoaks - 1.27m Five 20:00 Ice Road Truckers - 1.3m (5.4%) 21:00 CSI - 2.19m (9%) ITV2 21:00 Vampire Diaries - 495k (2%) ITV3 17:40 Heartbeat - 464k (2.5%) 18:45 Born And Bred - 489k (2.2%) 21:00 Wycliffe 466k (1.9%) ITV4 15:15-19:30 Cricket: Indian Premier League - 288k (2.0%) E4 [inc +1] 21:00 90210 - 0.36m Source: DS, ITV media, C4 Sales Eastenders had a particularly low share for a Tuesday, usually its much higher in a 19:30 slot - its lowest Tuesday share since 1st September 2009. Holby followed and scored its lowest Tuesday rating since 22nd December 2009. Emmerdale seemed to be roughly on a par with normal Tuesday levels though, so possibly Sky Sports 2 had an effect on the main channels rather than daylight savings. Excellent night for channel 4 and E4 with that 1m plus for Shameless first look. |
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Reality overload on Tuesdays in the US. Dancing with the Stars has all its younger viewers nicked by Idol, and The Biggest Loser gets squeezed out entirely. I really think NBC would do a lot worse than to move BL to Wednesday next season - significantly less reality competition. Tuesday's will be opening up for dramas somewhat with no more Lost and Fox possibly filling time in Fall 2010, before XF lands in 2011.
Decent return for V - the half-hours demonstrate how it was aided by the lead-in. It'll need to stabilise in the mid-2's to make a return worthwhile. I think Parenthood's prospects are looking decent. It does a pretty adept job using the Biggest Loser audience - if it had been following it in the fall when the reality show was stronger, it would probably have posted 3.0+. |
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8pm - Dancing With The Stars Results - 14.09m (2.9) * 47% lower with A18-49 than Mondays performance show * 38% lower in total viewers Is it to provide a decent lead-in to Lost? |
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Reality overload on Tuesdays in the US. Dancing with the Stars has all its younger viewers nicked by Idol, and The Biggest Loser gets squeezed out entirely. I really think NBC would do a lot worse than to move BL to Wednesday next season - significantly less reality competition. Tuesday's will be opening up for dramas somewhat with no more Lost and Fox possibly filling time in Fall 2010, before XF lands in 2011.
Decent return for V - the half-hours demonstrate how it was aided by the lead-in. It'll need to stabilise in the mid-2's to make a return worthwhile. I think Parenthood's prospects are looking decent. It does a pretty adept job using the Biggest Loser audience - if it had been following it in the fall when the reality show was stronger, it would probably have posted 3.0+. |
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Thankfully March is nearly history and we can look forward to some decent shows returning in April. Doctor Who, Ashes To Ashes, HIGNFY, Outnumbered, Waterloo Road Jonathan Creek, Frost etc.
Should be a very good month for BBC1. |
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April is going to be huge! Waterloo Road, Doctor Who, Outnumbered...it'll be the perfect telly week. The best thing is im also off school!!
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Thankfully March is nearly history and we can look forward to some decent shows returning in April. Doctor Who, Ashes To Ashes, HIGNFY, Outnumbered, Waterloo Road Jonathan Creek, Frost etc.
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cherubmattd people will disagree with me, but ever since cinemas & the film certification people bowed to pressure and introduce 12A, it makes the certification kinda useless.
So I dont have a problem with a review that airs on the side of caution, and informs parents of what exactly is in the film. You dont have to agree with the tone of the reviews (or the suggested age), but parents might find a review that isnt solely interested in selling the film/TV show (as sadly alot are) and more interested in giving a warning to parents about what is in a film with a 12A certification. The best example of this would be the recent Alice in Wonderland
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A review like the one above, would have warned me of this unexpected level of gore that was totally out place in the movie. |
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I think NBC need to pick a night and try to establish one day of the week where they do really well and Tuesdays do seem like a possible option if they cleared it. The Biggest Loser would be fine on Wednesdays, probably better.
Plus, I really think the Tuesday slots are needed. If NBC has a decent comedy development season, they'll need a second block. Mondays must be out because they'd be murdered by CBS - Wednesdays must be out too with ABC growing a pretty significant block there (plus CBS's second string at 8). Tuesdays are about the only option. CBS are strong at 8, but not formidable after that, Fox won't be committing any established hits on the night ahead of XF, and ABC's Tuesdays (minus Lost) have been a right mess. NBC has a chance to start anew there on a level footing with other networks. |
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Why have ABC chosen to put their results show in that slot opposite American Idol.
Is it to provide a decent lead-in to Lost? * 9pm is the better slot and Lost is the more valuable show (due to its younger audience) * At 9pm, Lost can provide a far more appropriate lead-in to V at 10pm * The final episodes of Lost won't have American Idol competition because it shortens to 1 hour |
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Imagine if a religious festival took precedence here...the BBC might do something like move a Formula One race halfway through just to hear from some holy figure...
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