The Ratings Thread (Part 8) (Merged)

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GeorgeS

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Absolutely agree the debates won't get anything like 10m. I do think ITV's might do OK due to the novelty factor, but as people will then realise it's three rather dull people talking about rather dull policies, repeating the same stock quotes to the same questions and taking every opportunity to attack each other rather than answer the bloody question I'm guessing interest will wane with each passing debate.”

But what if Brown flips? You cant rule out the possibility that there will be a punch up

Fudd

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“But what if Brown flips? You cant rule out the possibility that there will be a punch up ”

Surely it's more likely that he'll send Cameron and Clegg into a coma. That's if Clegg manages to get past security.

EuroChris

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Interesting betting odds from Paddy Power for the First Election Debate ratings. They have 11-14 million as the favourite at 7/4.

That's very high ! Debates have done well in other countries recently, so maybe they've loosely been basing their odds on that?

USA ('08): 63.2m, France ('07): 20.1m, Australia ('07): 2.4m

Those three ratings include simulcasts (many in the USA, and 2 channels aired the Fr./Oz debates at the same time). Those debates were one of the top 3 most watched programmes of the year in their respective countries, I think.

Paddy Power also has the BBC debate as the favourite to pull in the most viewers at 1/2. ITV are 6/4.”

If I remember correctly, one of the debates for the 2008 Spanish general election became one of, if not THE most watched TV show in Spanish TV history (knocking eurovision 2002 off the top spot which had 12.7m viewers), I can't remember the ratings for the debate but it was higher than 12m. I'm really intruigued about how high the ratings will go for our debates, particularly the final one.

I'll try and find the Spanish ratings.

Arthur Cucumber

12-04-2010

ITV got the first debate as decided by the toss of a coin, as just confirmed by a very interesting documentary on BBC2 earlier this evening.

jake lyle

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by Cent:
“No-one know where its being held yet? Manchester, Liverpool, Blackpool?

.”

Im fairly sure its Manchester.

Originally Posted by Cent:
“I think its the common sense way of dividing them up.

ITV is concerned with commercial operations, highest ratings. Even though there are no adverts during it - there will be before and after and it keep their share high.

It makes sense for them to go first - that will most likely get highest ratings.

The BBC wants the biggest one and failing the first, they get the last one - the one where they get the last chance before the election to change things.

Sky want to show people they are a big player and not just a sideshow - if they went 1st or last people would talk about it being the small pre-show or post-show debate, they are bang in the centre now.”

Nope they drew lots for them.

iaindb

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by Arthur Cucumber:
“ITV got the first debate as decided by the toss of a coin, as just confirmed by a very interesting documentary on BBC2 earlier this evening. ”

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Nope they drew lots for them.”

They can't really toss a coin when there's three of them.

gottago

12-04-2010

Hahaha! Just watching Corrie and Sophie's got a Britannia High poster up on her bedroom wall! Just give it up ITV! It flopped! It's over!

jake lyle

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by Arthur Cucumber:
“ITV got the first debate as decided by the toss of a coin, as just confirmed by a very interesting documentary on BBC2 earlier this evening. ”

Yes it was very good, it was also revealed in the press release the broadcasters put out in March.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8545991.stm

jake lyle

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“They can't really toss a coin when there's three of them.”

Thats why they drew lots.

No coins involved

Georged123

12-04-2010

There wont be any adverts during ITV's debate?

jake lyle

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by Georged123:
“There wont be any adverts during ITV's debate?”

None at all,
At least its not like America, Where all the main broadcasters simucast them:sleep:

Dancc

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by gottago:
“Hahaha! Just watching Corrie and Sophie's got a Britannia High poster up on her bedroom wall! Just give it up ITV! It flopped! It's over!”

LOL! Good spot.

Arthur Cucumber

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“They can't really toss a coin when there's three of them.”

You can flip a coin more than once.

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Thats why they drew lots.

No coins involved”

The programme definitely said "by the flip of a coin". It's on iPlayer. I suppose it amounts to the same thing. Not that it really matters - our point is the same and I'm just being pedantic.

rzt

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by EuroChris:
“If I remember correctly, one of the debates for the 2008 Spanish general election became one of, if not THE most watched TV show in Spanish TV history (knocking eurovision 2002 off the top spot which had 12.7m viewers), I can't remember the ratings for the debate but it was higher than 12m. I'm really intruigued about how high the ratings will go for our debates, particularly the final one.

I'll try and find the Spanish ratings. ”

According to BBC News, the Spanish debate had 11.7m: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7276338.stm

The German one last year had 14.2m, which is also high. They seem to rate really well in other countries from the ratings I've seen, but it might be a completely different case over here!

scotch

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“But what if Brown flips? You cant rule out the possibility that there will be a punch up ”

Sadly I think all phones, Nokias included, will be switched off and left in the dressing rooms. Shame really

EuroChris

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by rzt:
“According to BBC News, the Spanish debate had 11.7m: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7276338.stm

The German one last year had 14.2m, which is also high. They seem to rate really well in other countries from the ratings I've seen, but it might be a completely different case over here!”

Well done for finding the Spanish rating, I was having no look. So it wasn't the highest ever but very close. I had a feeling it was very high.

yorkie100

12-04-2010

The really interesting thing about the debates is just what the other channels can/dare to schedule against them.

I expect the first one may start reasonably well in terms of ratings but when the audience realise what a bore fest they are with the format imposed I cant see them doing that well.

Mikeandhersonq

12-04-2010

^^^
Furthermore, I'm not sure what on earth the BBC could air opposite them, and even opposite their own debate! It could be Total Disaster for the BBC if BBC One beats ITV1 during the debate in the eyes of some.

Also. Are any of these debates being broadcast internationally?

sstripling

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by gottago:
“Hahaha! Just watching Corrie and Sophie's got a Britannia High poster up on her bedroom wall! Just give it up ITV! It flopped! It's over!”

yeah i saw that the other day - it did make me laugh!
What will be next - a poster for Micheal Winner's Dinning Stars!

iaindb

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by Mikeandhersonq:
“^^^
Furthermore, I'm not sure what on earth the BBC could air opposite them, and even opposite their own debate! It could be Total Disaster for the BBC if BBC One beats ITV1 during the debate in the eyes of some.”

BBC1 going with their normal Thursday schedule

8.00 DIY SOS (which would under normal circumstances play against Emmerdale and Corrie)
9.00 Have I Got News For You
9.30 Outnumbered.

And the BBC can't be held responsible if more people opt to watch some quality comedy ahead of 3 patronising, condenscending idiots spouting a load of well-rehearsed but meaniless sound bites (I think the election debate will win, but I hope it doesn't.)

Charnham

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by sstripling:
“yeah i saw that the other day - it did make me laugh!
What will be next - a poster for Micheal Winner's Dinning Stars!”

*removes show idea*

im not sure I should post this, I may be giving a good idea for a TV show away.

sorry but im keeping this one to myself.

yorkie100

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“BBC1 going with their normal Thursday schedule

8.00 DIY SOS (which would under normal circumstances play against Emmerdale and Corrie)
9.00 Have I Got News For You
9.30 Outnumbered.

And the BBC can't be held responsible if more people opt to watch some quality comedy ahead of 3 patronising, condenscending idiots spouting a load of well-rehearsed but meaniless sound bites (I think the election debate will win, but I hope it doesn't.)”

Quite happy about this 2 good shows to watch while the drivel is on - I too would love the debates to absolutely bomb.

Brekkie

12-04-2010

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It's fascinating that Sky are only bothering to promote the HD coverage of the debate.

I know it's a bit of a first for them in more than just the one sense, but isn't it a bit daft not to mention the SD broadcast at all in the advertising?”

They do it all the time with Sky1 - "exclusive to Sky1 HD", which of course it isn't!

Originally Posted by gottago:
“Hahaha! Just watching Corrie and Sophie's got a Britannia High poster up on her bedroom wall! Just give it up ITV! It flopped! It's over!”

Are they still showing it on CITV. Talking of which, note now that CBBC is showing Total Wipeout too.

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“And the BBC can't be held responsible if more people opt to watch some quality comedy ahead of 3 patronising, condenscending idiots spouting a load of well-rehearsed but meaniless sound bites”

Are you talking about the debates or Have I Got News for You there?

Georged123

12-04-2010

I wouldnt be surprised if there was a mass switch over to BBC1 at 9pm. People tuning in for the debate might watch the first 30 minutes and think its very dull thus decide to watch HIGNFY instead.

fodg09

12-04-2010

Pretty sure CPSAN are showing them in the U.S

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