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When is "Eleventh Hour" Set?
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lordOfTime
04-04-2010
It doesn't really matter I suppose but It is my biggest question about 11th Hour.

Because in "Rose" we know the year is 2005. But we don't really know in what year The TARDIS crashlands to Earth by the start of Eleventh Hour. Then of course we have the fact that The Doctor visits Amy at various points within her life. As a Child, 12 years later in the same house and then in another 2 years. So that's 14 years of time.

Any idea anyone? Anyone care? lol.
delegate zero
04-04-2010
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“It doesn't really matter I suppose but It is my biggest question about 11th Hour.

Because in "Rose" we know the year is 2005. But we don't really know in what year The TARDIS crashlands to Earth by the start of Eleventh Hour. Then of course we have the fact that The Doctor visits Amy at various points within her life. As a Child, 12 years later in the same house and then in another 2 years. So that's 14 years of time.

Any idea anyone? Anyone care? lol. ”

oops just started a thread on the very topic.

millenium dome is visible when he's crashing,so 2013 at the earliest,i reckon
wizzywick
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“It doesn't really matter I suppose but It is my biggest question about 11th Hour.

Because in "Rose" we know the year is 2005. But we don't really know in what year The TARDIS crashlands to Earth by the start of Eleventh Hour. Then of course we have the fact that The Doctor visits Amy at various points within her life. As a Child, 12 years later in the same house and then in another 2 years. So that's 14 years of time.

Any idea anyone? Anyone care? lol. ”

Good Question.........

I think he crashed in Amelia's Garden in 1996. He revisited her house in 2008 and then again in 2010. Obviously this is just my own opinion and we may get an answer in the next few episodes although next week it's set a millennium into the future and in episode three it's set during WWII. May be a long time until we find out as this series looks as though the focus on Time travel is better explored than the previous 4.
JohnFlawbod
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“It doesn't really matter I suppose but It is my biggest question about 11th Hour.

Because in "Rose" we know the year is 2005. But we don't really know in what year The TARDIS crashlands to Earth by the start of Eleventh Hour. Then of course we have the fact that The Doctor visits Amy at various points within her life. As a Child, 12 years later in the same house and then in another 2 years. So that's 14 years of time.

Any idea anyone? Anyone care? lol. ”

What we know, although wine is clearly a factor in my perspective, is that TEOT was set on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day and when we pick up young Amelia she is writing a letter to Santa in TEH...now, as my dearly beloved has pointed out, merely because the TARDIS crashes straight to Earth...there is no reason to assume that after the fall over London (and during the Title sequence) it couldn't have fallen through time also thereby rendering what scant grasp on chronology we have thus far null and void...
Rorschach
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod:
“What we know, although wine is clearly a factor in my perspective, is that TEOT was set on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day and when we pick up young Amelia she is writing a letter to Santa in TEH...now, as my dearly beloved has pointed out, merely because the TARDIS crashes straight to Earth...there is no reason to assume that after the fall over London (and during the Title sequence) it couldn't have fallen through time also thereby rendering what scant grasp on chronology we have thus far null and void...”

Actually whilst she is praying to Santa, she actually says "It's Easter now, so I hope I didn't wake you...". So it certainly didn't carry on directly from TEOT. So a backwards hop (pre Millenium Dome) is entirely possible.
phileq
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by delegate zero:
“oops just started a thread on the very topic.

millenium dome is visible when he's crashing,so 2013 at the earliest,i reckon”

The 2013 theory assumes that there was no time-travel between the opening sequence (flying over London) and him crashing in Amelia's back garden, since you're assuming the flight over London was 1999 (the earliest the Dome was there).

However, that must then also assumes that there was time travel between the start of the crash (1st Jan 2005, after he saw Rose) and the flight over London (which you're assuming is 1999). That seems a bit contradictory.

So, two possibilities:
1. No time travel at all. The flight over London was 2005, so the episode was set in 2005 (when Amy was a kid), then 2017, and finally 2019.

2. There was time travel. I think that's more likely, since the flight over London was clearly set in 2009/2010 (merely because we know that's when the production team flew over London to get the aerial shots!)
So I reckon the flight over London was 2010, the bit with Amelia was 1998, the main part of it was back to 2010 again, and the end of the ep was 2012.

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey.
phileq
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Good Question.........

I think he crashed in Amelia's Garden in 1996. He revisited her house in 2008 and then again in 2010. Obviously this is just my own opinion and we may get an answer in the next few episodes although next week it's set a millennium into the future and in episode three it's set during WWII. May be a long time until we find out as this series looks as though the focus on Time travel is better explored than the previous 4.”

The only problem with that theory is the mobile phone technology looks slightly too advanced for 2008 - nice big touch-screen phones, were they around in 2008?
JohnFlawbod
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by Rorschach:
“Actually whilst she is praying to Santa, she actually says "It's Easter now, so I hope I didn't wake you...". So it certainly didn't carry on directly from TEOT. So a backwards hop (pre Millenium Dome) is entirely possible.”

Sorry Rorschach - that should have read "could have fallen through time also" and you are quite right...we have no idea where we are...are there any Pertwee fans with evidence the 70's were actually set in 80's around? I love a good timey-wimey conversation...
roland rat
05-04-2010
There amys car


Mini with a close up of the registration plate:

N191 CUY

ROVER MINI MAYFAIR 2 DOOR SALOON 1275cc (05-03-1996) PETROL
Hendo9
05-04-2010
In my opinion:

Opening Scene - 2010

(TARDIS exploding sent it hurtling back in time to 1996, to Amelia's garden in Leadworth)

Doctor then left and was gone for 12 years... so everything with Prisoner Zero and the Atraxi etc happened in 2008.

Then when the TARDIS was ready, he "went to the moon" with it, but come back 2 years later...therefore back in 2010, present day.
sigsig
05-04-2010
Wouldn't the opening scene have been 2005, following the Doctor's visit to Rose?
jimmya1
05-04-2010
its one big cockup, Amy and Rory grew up together so he is about 21 in the village green part with a upto date Mobile and he as been a nurse since 1990 so he must have become a nurse about age one
JCR
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by jimmya1:
“its one big cockup”

Or Rory's ID card was just put in to annoy people online.
lordOfTime
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Good Question.........

I think he crashed in Amelia's Garden in 1996. He revisited her house in 2008 and then again in 2010. Obviously this is just my own opinion and we may get an answer in the next few episodes although next week it's set a millennium into the future and in episode three it's set during WWII. May be a long time until we find out as this series looks as though the focus on Time travel is better explored than the previous 4.”

Which makes me wonder how much of RTD era events Amy remembers or is still to come in her timeline. I think this is just the Moff's way of stamping his own authority on the show by making the time period(s) so ambiguous. I'm just majorly curious as to white years these events took place in.

Originally Posted by sigsig:
“Wouldn't the opening scene have been 2005, following the Doctor's visit to Rose?”

Not necessarily. I think it could have fallen through the sky in 2005 but then fallen to Earth in another time as it materialised. I don't think the TARDIS fell anywhere near London that's for sure.
Ethel_Fred
05-04-2010
All of which does suggest that St Mary Mead - sorry Leadworth - is not on the Earth we know.

So

1) The Prisoner
2) Truman Show
3) alt-Earth
4) FUTURE Earth with recreation of early 21st century life - edit, can't be otherwise how was The Doctor able to contact Patrick Moore
RubusRoo
05-04-2010
ibump
amos_brearley
05-04-2010
We should also bear in mind just how blase the folk of Leadworth are about alien invasions/the sun acting up. I much prefer the 1998 young Amy time then 2010 for the Prisoner Zero resolution and 2012 for the final time Amy is picked up simply because it seems neater to have "The Eleventh Hour"'s main Earth attack plot set after all the RTD similar incursions rather than in the midst of them.
Salford_Who
05-04-2010
All the cars were old, the hospital ward looked old fashioned. Nurse Rory started work in 1990, this points to sometime in the 90s, but the technology is too far advanced.

My theory is that some alien is trying to crack into this world, and the technology is the advance warning. the crack in the skin of time is the warning....
bunnyds
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by Salford_Who:
“All the cars were old...”

No they were not, there were two cars with 2005 registration plates.
davethorp
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by phileq:
“The only problem with that theory is the mobile phone technology looks slightly too advanced for 2008 - nice big touch-screen phones, were they around in 2008?”

The iPhone was (original model launched in 2007 and 3G model released 2008). Not sure about any other touch screen phones though
Jakes_stuff
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by davethorp:
“The iPhone was (original model launched in 2007 and 3G model released 2008). Not sure about any other touch screen phones though”

The phone Rory had was a blackberry model that only came out last year, I know this because my other half has exactly the same one
phileq
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“I don't think the TARDIS fell anywhere near London that's for sure.”

It didn't. The Doctor asks Amy where the nearest town is, and she says Gloucester is around half an hour away.
So Leadworth is probably somewhere 20-odd miles from Gloucester.
Ethel_Fred
05-04-2010
I wonder what Sarah Jane was doing during all of this - washing her hair?
Ethel_Fred
05-04-2010
Originally Posted by Jakes_stuff:
“The phone Rory had was a blackberry model that only came out last year, I know this because my other half has exactly the same one”

Previous version uses the same casing
Bouncer5
05-04-2010
I guess that when the Doctor finally picks Amy up, that is supposed to be 2010, the house looks more old fashioned in the earlier parts of the episode too. Sure that's lots of flaws if you nit pick it, like the millenium dome at the start, but maybe it slipped through time at the last moment.
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