My burning issue with the episode is that he didn't appear to be as drunk-like as the other regenerations. He's meant to be completely mental for the 1st 24 hours after a regeneration, he was a little hyper but that was it
Things that may or may not be important...
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I'm pretty sure I know where the village duck pond is, I'll have to go and have a look when I'm next nearby.
Originally Posted by twirlytori:
“Perhaps its Amy refering to herself as another person in order to seperate herself from her past.
I just think the change from Amelia to Amy is strange and therefore likely to be significant”
“Perhaps its Amy refering to herself as another person in order to seperate herself from her past.
I just think the change from Amelia to Amy is strange and therefore likely to be significant”
I think something happened six months before the doctor meets the older Amy, because she told the Doctor that Amelia had left six months ago. Later when the doctor wanted to know why she had said six months she didn't say inspite of the doctor saying that it was important.
Originally Posted by JPickford:
“An older Amy will turn out to be the Aunt. She wasn't there because she was off with the Doctor..”
“An older Amy will turn out to be the Aunt. She wasn't there because she was off with the Doctor..”
There is something that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else that supports the idea of Amelia and Amy not being the same person:
Amelia's eyes are blue. Amy's eyes are green/brown.
Maybe some of the dates don't match up (such as Rory's 1990 badge ..at the same time as 2010 tech)..because they are not supposed to.
Perhaps time is now so broken (due to the Time war etc) we're seeing different time zones pushed together in the same space (and things such as prisoner zero can leak through the cracks created by this mismatch).
The Doc did say when looking at the crack "Two parts of space and time that should never have touched, pressed together."
Maybe the Timelords attempt to break out of the time-lock caused time to fracture.. and when they were stopped, time reassembled incorrectly?
Perhaps time is now so broken (due to the Time war etc) we're seeing different time zones pushed together in the same space (and things such as prisoner zero can leak through the cracks created by this mismatch).
The Doc did say when looking at the crack "Two parts of space and time that should never have touched, pressed together."
Maybe the Timelords attempt to break out of the time-lock caused time to fracture.. and when they were stopped, time reassembled incorrectly?
Aaaah.
Let me throw another spanner in the pre-credits dating issue.
You can see the Gherkin. That wasn't built and complete until 2003/4...
Let me throw another spanner in the pre-credits dating issue.
You can see the Gherkin. That wasn't built and complete until 2003/4...
2) The duck pond. Why make a point of that? Is there more to this sleepy village than meets the eye? Or was it just a joke?
The ducks probably went at the same time as the Bees!
The ducks probably went at the same time as the Bees!
Originally Posted by Maffmoose:
“2) The duck pond. Why make a point of that? Is there more to this sleepy village than meets the eye? Or was it just a joke?
The ducks probably went at the same time as the Bees!”
“2) The duck pond. Why make a point of that? Is there more to this sleepy village than meets the eye? Or was it just a joke?
The ducks probably went at the same time as the Bees!”
It could also be nothing. Imagine not knowing what a duck pond is and being told something is one .... but no ducks in sight, I am sure we would all question it. Trouble is with the likes of DW, we tend to question and look for something in everything.
The village - I may be imagining things but wasn't it mentioned that the location was supposed to be in Gloucestershire? I seem to remember the Doctor asking where the nearest town was and was told it was Gloucester or somewhere like that.
Or am I going mad?
Or am I going mad?
when he sat down to rest, by the "duck pond", and sais something like I'M NOT DONE YET .....
MAYBE
because he hasn't done the regenerate thing yet
OR
perhaps the "previous" owner wants BACK!!!!!!
think on THAT one
MAYBE
because he hasn't done the regenerate thing yet
OR
perhaps the "previous" owner wants BACK!!!!!!
think on THAT one
What was Prisoner Zero
How did it know that The Doctor was a Timelord
How does it know something major that the Doctor doesn't.
Why does it just hide
Why does the Doctor let it get killed despite the most aggressive act iit does in n 12 years is to go to the Post Office
Why does the Doctor get time travel wrong not once but twice - the second AFTER the Tardis was repaired
Why so many anagrams of Leadworth
Why were the Atraxi so eager to kill 6 billion people to get one person in violation of the Shadow Proclamation and their own laws
Where did the bow tie come from and how did the Doctor tie it so quickly
Why did the Doctor say he always comes back when often he doesn't
Why are there so many coma patients in such a small village
What was on Jeff's laptop
What is Myth
And the biggy - who is Amelia? Is there a bigger backstory to her than someone whose parents died, whose aunt leaves her alone in the house, who is willing to run away with a strange man, has fantasies about her raggedty Doctor, whose every movement is known by the village but who don't know she's a kissagram and who doesn't lose her Scottish accent in an English town
How did it know that The Doctor was a Timelord
How does it know something major that the Doctor doesn't.
Why does it just hide
Why does the Doctor let it get killed despite the most aggressive act iit does in n 12 years is to go to the Post Office
Why does the Doctor get time travel wrong not once but twice - the second AFTER the Tardis was repaired
Why so many anagrams of Leadworth
Why were the Atraxi so eager to kill 6 billion people to get one person in violation of the Shadow Proclamation and their own laws
Where did the bow tie come from and how did the Doctor tie it so quickly
Why did the Doctor say he always comes back when often he doesn't
Why are there so many coma patients in such a small village
What was on Jeff's laptop
What is Myth
And the biggy - who is Amelia? Is there a bigger backstory to her than someone whose parents died, whose aunt leaves her alone in the house, who is willing to run away with a strange man, has fantasies about her raggedty Doctor, whose every movement is known by the village but who don't know she's a kissagram and who doesn't lose her Scottish accent in an English town
I'm thinking something is seriously askew with time in that village. The 12 year gap between Amelia and Amy can be explained by the tardis being in serious trouble and repairing itself which could send it's instruments haywire. But the 2 year gap, when the Dr said he'd just hopped to the Moon and the Tardis is all sparkly, shiney and new - doesn't make sense*
*I am aware this isn't real BTW
*I am aware this isn't real BTW
Originally Posted by starsailor:
“Also, why have a respected, well known actress (Nina Wadia) only have a few lines in a very unimportant part?”
“Also, why have a respected, well known actress (Nina Wadia) only have a few lines in a very unimportant part?”
I'm pretty sure I saw her in the teaser trailer at the end of the episode so I think she'll be reappearing at some point.
Duck Pond, Amelia Pond, Amy Pond ...
It's interesting that all the radios were really, really old. It also looked like the runner had a cassette player but I could be wrong. On the other hand, the phones and laptop were modern. Maybe a convergence of time?
I also don't understand why the end of the episode went back to the young Amelia sitting on her suitcase, and we heard the TARDIS engines, then that was it.
It's interesting that all the radios were really, really old. It also looked like the runner had a cassette player but I could be wrong. On the other hand, the phones and laptop were modern. Maybe a convergence of time?
I also don't understand why the end of the episode went back to the young Amelia sitting on her suitcase, and we heard the TARDIS engines, then that was it.
Originally Posted by Revenga:
“I also don't understand why the end of the episode went back to the young Amelia sitting on her suitcase, and we heard the TARDIS engines, then that was it.”
“I also don't understand why the end of the episode went back to the young Amelia sitting on her suitcase, and we heard the TARDIS engines, then that was it.”
Amy dreaming of sitting on Amerlia's case waiting for her Raggedty Doctor to come back. The sound of the Tardis intruded into the dream and woke Amy up.
Of course given that it was 2 years since the Doctor had left, it's a coincidence that she was dreaming her waiting for the Doctor as a child
Originally Posted by Ethel_Fred:
“Amy dreaming of sitting on Amerlia's case waiting for her Raggedty Doctor to come back. The sound of the Tardis intruded into the dream and woke Amy up.
Of course given that it was 2 years since the Doctor had left, it's a coincidence that she was dreaming her waiting for the Doctor as a child”
“Amy dreaming of sitting on Amerlia's case waiting for her Raggedty Doctor to come back. The sound of the Tardis intruded into the dream and woke Amy up.
Of course given that it was 2 years since the Doctor had left, it's a coincidence that she was dreaming her waiting for the Doctor as a child”
Oh fair enough.
One more thing - the door was obviously cloaked before the alien came through the crack, or at least before Amelia moved to the house, if she'd never noticed it and had no recollection of the room as an adult.
this is doin my head in now
theres so many things wrong with leadworth
lie why are the hospitals classed as the 'rlh - royal leadworth hospital'. the badges are usually nhs badges not rlh..right?
why would a small village have such a large hospital
the grid tht prisoner zero dissolved down, is raised , has 'leadworth green' imprinted on it! no united utilties?
and how would water drain off the road, if its set as high as the village green?
as for the age? theres clearly vehicles in the episode, rories is an n reg, theres an r reg rover parked near the duckpond, yet theres a rather new mondeo parked on the hospital car park, and that model was only introduced 2005
and exactly how is the drain in the village green connected to the speaker in the hospital?
none of it makes sense
theres so many things wrong with leadworth
lie why are the hospitals classed as the 'rlh - royal leadworth hospital'. the badges are usually nhs badges not rlh..right?
why would a small village have such a large hospital
the grid tht prisoner zero dissolved down, is raised , has 'leadworth green' imprinted on it! no united utilties?
and how would water drain off the road, if its set as high as the village green?
as for the age? theres clearly vehicles in the episode, rories is an n reg, theres an r reg rover parked near the duckpond, yet theres a rather new mondeo parked on the hospital car park, and that model was only introduced 2005
and exactly how is the drain in the village green connected to the speaker in the hospital?
none of it makes sense
Is Leadworth actually on Earth? Could it be a facsimile of English village constructed on an alien planet, but with the aliens who built it getting certain little things not quite right?
Originally Posted by twirlytori:
“Perhaps its Amy refering to herself as another person in order to seperate herself from her past.
I just think the change from Amelia to Amy is strange and therefore likely to be significant”
“Perhaps its Amy refering to herself as another person in order to seperate herself from her past.
I just think the change from Amelia to Amy is strange and therefore likely to be significant”
I think the change from Amelia to Amy was simply her growing up. She said herself it was 'a bit fairytale'. And after 12 years of convincing herself the Doctor wasnt real, she shut the child inside away, along with her imaginary friend and her name, and adopted an older name.
Originally Posted by Vabosity:
“Is Leadworth actually on Earth? Could it be a facsimile of English village constructed on an alien planet, but with the aliens who built it getting certain little things not quite right?”
“Is Leadworth actually on Earth? Could it be a facsimile of English village constructed on an alien planet, but with the aliens who built it getting certain little things not quite right?”
Well, if you spell it Ledworth, it's an anagram of The World. So if Ledworth is muddled up, could it be that the world is muddled up?
Originally Posted by OhWhenTheSaints:
“My burning issue with the episode is that he didn't appear to be as drunk-like as the other regenerations. He's meant to be completely mental for the 1st 24 hours after a regeneration, he was a little hyper but that was it”
“My burning issue with the episode is that he didn't appear to be as drunk-like as the other regenerations. He's meant to be completely mental for the 1st 24 hours after a regeneration, he was a little hyper but that was it”
Didn't he make some comment when he woke up handcuffed to the radiator about how the cricket bat to the head had been just what he needed? Maybe that essentially knocked the 'drunkeness' out of him?
Originally Posted by Jackpot777:
“Well, if you spell it Ledworth, it's an anagram of The World. So if Ledworth is muddled up, could it be that the world is muddled up?”
“Well, if you spell it Ledworth, it's an anagram of The World. So if Ledworth is muddled up, could it be that the world is muddled up?”
But Leadworth is an anagram of 'Dr Who Late', which he was each time. Though that could be for two reasons, when making up a name they could have just thought of the theme and did an anagram, or it could be named as an anagram for something more sinister.
OK... hello. New here, hello, big wave. I'm going to post some images from the 'Coming Soon' part, so this is a
Everything below is a spoiler. In fact, I'll break up the spoiler stuff by placing it inbetween the words CUTE KITTENS. That way you can scroll right by and stop when you get to the kittens again. All the images are from the 'Coming Soon', with one from the episode itself. Here comes the cute kittens. Go cross-eyed and scroll if you want no part of this!
CUTE KITTENS
First is this image of the ID badge. Rory Williams, works in the Emergency Unit, badge was issued recently (the guy still looks pretty much the same). And it was issued in 1990. But as many people have pointed out: video camera phones. The woman in the telephone box has a touchscreen one, like an iPhone. So either
So what could have caused such a thing to happen? Here's where we go to the 'Coming Soon' stuff.
Here's a weird one... it's obviously
And the lights are blacked out. When were lights routinely blacked out? World War 2.
If you looked closely at the image, you may have noticed something jarring. Take a closer look. It's
. We know one of the episodes will be called
, and the internet already has a very short but revealing synopsis of the episode.
Before that episode, however, is
That explains this image from the teaser.
There's then
and that's as far as we know about the episodes. So I'm going to leave four more image links.
The first two are here and here. Note the pipe and the lighting. They're from the same location, possibly the same scene. There's also a scene in the teaser of
The next two are here and here, and show
CUTE KITTENS
=-=-=-= SPOILER ALERT =-=-=-=
Everything below is a spoiler. In fact, I'll break up the spoiler stuff by placing it inbetween the words CUTE KITTENS. That way you can scroll right by and stop when you get to the kittens again. All the images are from the 'Coming Soon', with one from the episode itself. Here comes the cute kittens. Go cross-eyed and scroll if you want no part of this!
CUTE KITTENS
First is this image of the ID badge. Rory Williams, works in the Emergency Unit, badge was issued recently (the guy still looks pretty much the same). And it was issued in 1990. But as many people have pointed out: video camera phones. The woman in the telephone box has a touchscreen one, like an iPhone. So either
Spoiler
So what could have caused such a thing to happen? Here's where we go to the 'Coming Soon' stuff.
Here's a weird one... it's obviously
Spoiler
If you looked closely at the image, you may have noticed something jarring. Take a closer look. It's
Spoiler
Spoiler
Before that episode, however, is
Spoiler
There's then
Spoiler
The first two are here and here. Note the pipe and the lighting. They're from the same location, possibly the same scene. There's also a scene in the teaser of
Spoiler
The next two are here and here, and show
Spoiler
CUTE KITTENS
Originally Posted by Denise:
“But Leadworth is an anagram of 'Dr Who Late', which he was each time. Though that could be for two reasons, when making up a name they could have just thought of the theme and did an anagram, or it could be named as an anagram for something more sinister.”
“But Leadworth is an anagram of 'Dr Who Late', which he was each time. Though that could be for two reasons, when making up a name they could have just thought of the theme and did an anagram, or it could be named as an anagram for something more sinister.”
It's also an anagram of Doctor Who Tale, which is what the story was.
I do wonder, reading this thread through, what some of you lot have been drinking!! Some mad crazy theories on this thread and I can't help feel most of you are lookign way to closely at the episode and shoud be taking most of it at face value for what it is.
Oh and us Scots never really lose our accents
Oh and us Scots never really lose our accents
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