Moffat is such a good writer , I was hooked , I reckon the cybermen are to do wih the silence (makes a change from the darkness) and that grave yard in the trailer is thought provoking too ax
Things that may or may not be important...
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Originally Posted by alphonsus:
“Why? OK, most of his regenerations have been dodgy, but in principle it's a routine event for a Time Lord. Yes, the Doctor's regenerations have tended to be fraught, but maybe this time he got lucky.”
“Why? OK, most of his regenerations have been dodgy, but in principle it's a routine event for a Time Lord. Yes, the Doctor's regenerations have tended to be fraught, but maybe this time he got lucky.”
Yeah, I imagine most Time Lords regenerate peacefully in bed - not by being poisoned, shot, irradiated or dropped off a radio telescope. I imagine having to regenerate hurriedly isn't the best conditions.
By comparison, the Tenth's regeneration started pretty slowly and easily - don't know what he was complaining about!
What's the story with Magpie Electricals (on the monitor in the Tardis). Was that a reference to the old "The Idiot's Lantern" episode? Important or just an in joke? The next episode introduction on the BBC site
Leadworth definitely has too many famous people in it to not be important. I spotted the actress from "Peep Show" in the coma ward and found it odd that she would take on such a minor part.
Not sure if the duck pond is important but I think it's quite common for village/school ponds to be bereft of any wildlife
I think the timeline was cleared up in the latest DWA magazine. Apparently, by the end of the episode, we are back to Amy in the present day (i.e. April 2010). We know Rory is in later episodes and I think I heard that he even
for a while so he's probably involved in some timey-wimey stuff.
I forgot how fun all this speculation was. Can't wait til tomorrow night!
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Leadworth definitely has too many famous people in it to not be important. I spotted the actress from "Peep Show" in the coma ward and found it odd that she would take on such a minor part.
Not sure if the duck pond is important but I think it's quite common for village/school ponds to be bereft of any wildlife
I think the timeline was cleared up in the latest DWA magazine. Apparently, by the end of the episode, we are back to Amy in the present day (i.e. April 2010). We know Rory is in later episodes and I think I heard that he even
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I forgot how fun all this speculation was. Can't wait til tomorrow night!
Originally Posted by thommck:
“Leadworth definitely has too many famous people in it to not be important. I spotted the actress from "Peep Show" in the coma ward and found it odd that she would take on such a minor part.”
“Leadworth definitely has too many famous people in it to not be important. I spotted the actress from "Peep Show" in the coma ward and found it odd that she would take on such a minor part.”
She wasn't just in the coma ward - that was her (or rather the alien taking her form) running around as the woman with the two young girls.
Originally Posted by thommck:
“What's the story with Magpie Electricals (on the monitor in the Tardis). Was that a reference to the old "The Idiot's Lantern" episode?”
“What's the story with Magpie Electricals (on the monitor in the Tardis). Was that a reference to the old "The Idiot's Lantern" episode?”
I think its just an in-joke for the fan-boys
In "the sound of drums" Martha's telly is also made by Magpie Electricals - before being blown up by the comedy sticks of dynamite strapped to it that is!
it's an in-joke of the production staff actually, they explain it in one of the Confidential episodes
Has anyone spotted the drain that prisoner one disappears down when running away from the village green? It's built up and therefore not actually draining the gutter. Why put a fake drain in? Surely there were plenty ofreal ones to choose from?
I'VE JUST SUSSED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time has overlapped, like putting tracing paper of two images.
Somehow when he initially met young Amy, then went back to her years later, the times have merged --
So Older Amy will be the 'Aunt' that Young Amy is living with
Rory Having the 1990 Badge
Am I onto something??
Time has overlapped, like putting tracing paper of two images.
Somehow when he initially met young Amy, then went back to her years later, the times have merged --
So Older Amy will be the 'Aunt' that Young Amy is living with
Rory Having the 1990 Badge
Am I onto something??
Originally Posted by CheeseyDude1337:
“Yeah, you are”
“Yeah, you are
”
Succint, yes. Helpful, no. Tantalising, very.
Elaboration, forthcoming?
I reckon it has something to do with the Tardis engines, etc., being out of phase. This has damaged time, theefore the cracks.
Probably not saying anything thats not already over another dozen threads ...
Probably not saying anything thats not already over another dozen threads ...
Originally Posted by CheeseyDude1337:
“How do you know its fake?”
“How do you know its fake?”
erm, well, like i said on another thread (cos i pointed it out earlier) why have a raised grid? water wouldnt run away, so its pointless
and its directly connected to the speaker in the hospital, cos thats where it emerged after going down the grid
strange thing to do
although destroying the road to put an unnessecary grid, then restore it would be expensive and probably not allowed within the reduced budget
Originally Posted by alienpanda:
“I'VE JUST SUSSED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time has overlapped, like putting tracing paper of two images.
Somehow when he initially met young Amy, then went back to her years later, the times have merged --
So Older Amy will be the 'Aunt' that Young Amy is living with
Rory Having the 1990 Badge
Am I onto something??”
“I'VE JUST SUSSED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time has overlapped, like putting tracing paper of two images.
Somehow when he initially met young Amy, then went back to her years later, the times have merged --
So Older Amy will be the 'Aunt' that Young Amy is living with
Rory Having the 1990 Badge
Am I onto something??”
yeah been thinking along these lines myself - heres how i think it works:
Dr lands and its 1990. disappears and comes back 12 years later - now 2002 - picks up Amy.
meanwhile nothing has changed in Leadworth - other than people aging etc - probably due to Tardis regeneration. - maybe time has stood still apart from people aging - (as an aside what make and model are the mobile phones - are they from the 90s?)
later episode (according to radio times and Mr Moffat episode guide) sees the Dr:
(spoilered in case your not up to speed with this)
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by the end of the series we will be present day perhaps at which point the last episode is set on the day its aired making for a wicked finale
- edited as mind still working on the concept
I don't know if this will prove relevant, but if time is getting all muddled it may prove to be very relevant to the doctor. In both episodes so far the Doctor has solved a mystery by dating an object. In The Eleventh Hour he realised how long it had been since he'd been away by working out how old the shed was. In The Beast below he worked out how old Liz Ten was by dating her mask.
This is my first time posting. I really enjoy reading all the great observations people made as well as the questions.
I noticed some of the same things, but I wanted to add one more. Could there be a connection between the duck pond in "The Eleventh Hour" and Amy's last name - Pond.
Not sure what yet, but the whole thing about the duck pond didn't seem needed - unless it served as an introduction to something that would be important later. And the name "Pond" isn't a common name. Hard to believe that they picked it by chance.
I noticed some of the same things, but I wanted to add one more. Could there be a connection between the duck pond in "The Eleventh Hour" and Amy's last name - Pond.
Not sure what yet, but the whole thing about the duck pond didn't seem needed - unless it served as an introduction to something that would be important later. And the name "Pond" isn't a common name. Hard to believe that they picked it by chance.
Here's a therory that just occurred to me a few minutres ago!
At the end of The Beast Below, when Amy pushes Liz Ten's hand down on the 'Abdicate' button there's a lot a shaking and flashing of lights goes on, as though the Starwhale is reacting violently to the change.
What if it's not that at all? What if, at that moment, the crack is forming on the side of the ship and that's a reverberation from it?
It's already been suggested that the crack is somehow connected to Amy - what if it is following her? From her bedroom, to the Tardis, to the ship? (After all, we don't actuallly know if it was on the monitor before she entered the Tardis. What if her parent's being 'gone' is linked to the crack as well? (I had assumed they had passed away, but maybe not - maybe they're on the other side of the crack somewhere?)
Alternatively it could be following Eleven - it could have formed in Amy's wall because the Doctor was going to land there. It could even have drawn him there.
The other thing I noticed in The Beast Below was the reference to a 'zero'. First 'Prisoner Zero'; now a 'zero' used a sort of punishment/retraction of privileges. Is the reuse of the term significant?
[Of course I could be seeing links where there are none!]
At the end of The Beast Below, when Amy pushes Liz Ten's hand down on the 'Abdicate' button there's a lot a shaking and flashing of lights goes on, as though the Starwhale is reacting violently to the change.
What if it's not that at all? What if, at that moment, the crack is forming on the side of the ship and that's a reverberation from it?
It's already been suggested that the crack is somehow connected to Amy - what if it is following her? From her bedroom, to the Tardis, to the ship? (After all, we don't actuallly know if it was on the monitor before she entered the Tardis. What if her parent's being 'gone' is linked to the crack as well? (I had assumed they had passed away, but maybe not - maybe they're on the other side of the crack somewhere?)
Alternatively it could be following Eleven - it could have formed in Amy's wall because the Doctor was going to land there. It could even have drawn him there.
The other thing I noticed in The Beast Below was the reference to a 'zero'. First 'Prisoner Zero'; now a 'zero' used a sort of punishment/retraction of privileges. Is the reuse of the term significant?
[Of course I could be seeing links where there are none!]
Sorry if somebody's already mentioned this, but supposing that when Amy tells the Doctor Amelia's been gone 6 months, maybe she wasn't lying . . .
To stretch it even more...
Do we even know Amy has parents or an aunt? We haven't seen any evidence of them at all. And it is strange that she was left all alone at night.
Even more of a stretch...
Perhaps she isn't even "real," but just thinks she is. In the U.S., we had a series called Buffy the Vampire Slayer. One of the main characters was a girl named Dawn. She thought she was human, but she was really a mystical power, living energy, that was hidden on Earth in the form of a human.
Do we even know Amy has parents or an aunt? We haven't seen any evidence of them at all. And it is strange that she was left all alone at night.
Even more of a stretch...
Perhaps she isn't even "real," but just thinks she is. In the U.S., we had a series called Buffy the Vampire Slayer. One of the main characters was a girl named Dawn. She thought she was human, but she was really a mystical power, living energy, that was hidden on Earth in the form of a human.
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