iPhone OS 4.0 Announced

JamesLook · 09-04-2010, 12:13

Quote:

When I said a bunch of features lifted from jailbroken phones I meant that most of Apple's updates in OS4.0 are features that can already be done if you JB your iPhone. Folders also isn't a feature thats been created by jailbreaking as it's been around since the earliest incarnations of windows but it is a feature that can be added to jailbroken iPhones

It's almost as though Steve jailbroke his iPhone and then thought to himself "wow so this is what the phone can actually do.... suppose we better do it and then maybe people wont want to jailbreak"

You mean folders have been around since the Mac.

davethorp · 09-04-2010, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesLook

You mean folders have been around since the Mac.

That too

Gormond · 09-04-2010, 12:46

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Originally Posted by TheSoulBrother

There definitely is a (strong) element of tribalism around. It's been the case forever in the tech world so it's nothing surprising. What I will say is that the featurelist culture is ****ing annoying to me. That you are crazy for buying x when it doesn't have y or z.

The great thing about this market is that there is genuinely good choice about - a number of viable platforms, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I just don't understand why people get all pissy and offended about platforms they haven't bought into.

Yeah I couldn't agree more, also the user experience isn't just based on a list of features, if that was the case everyone would use Symbian and Windows Mobile 6.5 as on paper it looks as if they are perfect, but from my personal experience with these platforms they are far from a perfect user experience.

Anika Hanson · 09-04-2010, 13:24

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Originally Posted by Gormond

Yeah I couldn't agree more, also the user experience isn't just based on a list of features, if that was the case everyone would use Symbian and Windows Mobile 6.5 as on paper it looks as if they are perfect, but from my personal experience with these platforms they are far from a perfect user experience.

I agree with this. On paper they should be great but in practice they are not. At least no Windows mobile 6.5. I have a phone which has this OS, when I got it I thought I would find it really useful because of all the features it lists and would be a good phone to use in my work. In reality it was not what I thought it would be, for all it's features I still find my iphone 3G easier to use and more useful to me for work.

myromeo · 09-04-2010, 14:01

have those of you bashing the iphone os owned/used an iphone for any reasonable period of time?

Im yet to meet anyone, including people who have previously hated the iphone, who have used it and dont think it is superb.

yes, it may lack some features available on other phones but its the user experience that sets it apart, its (IMO) the easiest smartphone to use, has a very stable system, is fast and responsive and has a superb app store to add to it.

I must however admit im not blown away by the os4 additions, at least not the ones mentioned yesterday. two things I had hoped for are widgets (calendar, new mail etc) and bluetooth transfer to other devices... maybe we will get these tho as steve jobs did seem to suggest widgets are in the pipeline...

Noiseboy · 09-04-2010, 14:35

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Originally Posted by psionic

If you're reading in landscape mode - try put the phone upside down (earpiece down) . It stops it flipping when reading in bed etc.

Ooooh, nice one! Thanks!

kyussmondo · 09-04-2010, 15:33

I am generally quite pleased with the update. I would have liked to have seen widgets and a notification menu. Widgets are useful for doing things quicker, say if you want to see the weather or post a Facebook update then you can easily do it from the homescreen without entering the full app.

Secondly, with a notification menu then different apps could pull up notifications at the top like in Android. One thing it doesn't do is interrupt you with a notification right in the centre of the screen so you can ignore it if you want, or you could pull it down from the top and go and see it. I also use push email a lot more than texts these days. On the iPhone there is only a sound notification, so it is quite easy to miss emails if you don't hear the alert. A notification menu would at least tell you if you have email waiting for you.

One welcome addition is VOIP which is now actually useful with multitasking. I doubt the networks will like it too much though! Although, with Skype allowed, why doesn't Apple allow Google Voice? Google Voice looks amazingly useful. I like that it gives you one number and then you can easily set it to forward it to whichever phone you are at or a new phone if you get a new phone. Not to mention having a visual voicemail type system but with voice to speech. Of course Google has to bring the service to the UK first of all. I am led to believe that Google won't bring Google Voice to the UK because it is too expensive. Calling a mobile in the US is the same cost as calling a landline, whereas in the UK it is currently more expensive calling mobiles. Although if I am not mistaken OFCOM recently ruled that the telcos need to cut their connection charges by 90% which could mean we see Google Voice sooner rather than later. The only downside is we might have to start paying to receive calls/texts as well making calls. Although if we pay less and we get stuff like Google Voice then I am all for it.

Folders seems really useful. I could just put 4 folders in the dock each in their own category of my most used apps. I welcome iAd, if it makes ads better than the current ads in some iPhone apps I am all for it as I realise app developers have to make their bread somehow.

Can't wait for new hardware though. My current iPhone 3G is still great but I have nearly had it 2 years now and all these phones like the Google Nexus One with their 5MP cameras and superfast processors are making me a bit jealous. Hopefully they can make the new phone as fast as the iPad with the same battery life and same screen with a 5MP camera. I'm not getting a 3GS for something just a little bit faster, I want something that will smash my 3G and make the Nexus One look like a little b****

Steve™ · 09-04-2010, 17:51

I have a jailbroken iPhone, yes it multi-tasks and yes it will do some of the stuff in os4, but watching Jobs demo it reveals that os4 does it in a really smooth efficient way.

Brillaint.

Now if only Apple can resolve the weak signal and move ther antenna from the bottom of the phone (duh where you hold it) to the top when the new iPhone comes out in June I might consider buying the new one.

nufc4life · 09-04-2010, 17:54

so what phone are they demoing this on as it shows multitasking and this is only avalible on the new iphone 4 hummmm?

Gormond · 09-04-2010, 18:04

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Originally Posted by kyussmondo

Hopefully they can make the new phone as fast as the iPad with the same battery life and same screen with a 5MP camera.

You want a phone with the same screen as the iPad?

I can only assume I have misread this statement lol as this http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...modifi-001.jpg comes to mind

robtuk06 · 09-04-2010, 18:08

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Originally Posted by nufc4life

so what phone are they demoing this on as it shows multitasking and this is only avalible on the new iphone 4 hummmm?

eh?

Multitasking is for the 3GS too.

imagegrill · 09-04-2010, 18:17

spot on SoulBrother

Quote:

The great thing about this market is that there is genuinely good choice about - a number of viable platforms, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I just don't understand why people get all pissy and offended about platforms they haven't bought into.

To be fair, as a life long (what an odd thing to say about a mobile company!) Nokia user I am genuinly interested in the iPhone. Ok, so free Sat Nav is good for Nokia, but if I can afford an iPhone I can afford £50 (or whatever it is) to get Sat Nav for that.

It seems most companies chuck out all features straight away whether bug free and working well or not (Nokia N97 for example). Yet Apple only release what works and build up the feature set as the go along, essentially adding value along the way. Particularly interesting as they announced the new OS this April to build up for a new hardware release in June.

That is simple very good marketing.

I won't deny though that the product is also good.
Can they tempt me away from my N97...... lets see what happens in June

Gormond · 09-04-2010, 18:26

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Originally Posted by nufc4life

so what phone are they demoing this on as it shows multitasking and this is only avalible on the new iphone 4 hummmm?

Quote:

Originally Posted by robtuk06

eh?

Multitasking is for the 3GS too.

Indeed it's only not available for the 3G which TBH is a 2 year old phone and it gets all the other features of the new OS, just misses that because it has half the RAM of the 3GS.

I have a 3G and the fact it's not available doesn't bother me, things move on.

kyussmondo · 09-04-2010, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

You want a phone with the same screen as the iPad?

I can only assume I have misread this statement lol as this http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...modifi-001.jpg comes to mind

:lol: Not the same size but the same sort of technology. Reading reviews the iPad has a really nice screen plus the viewing angle is better than anything out there. Although I guess for a phone, viewing angle is not as important as you are not going to be sharing this as much as an iPad.

Would a 3.7" be better? I don't mind the screen being a tiny bit bigger as long as it remains thin and can easily fit in my pocket.

croyde · 09-04-2010, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Steve™

I have a jailbroken iPhone, yes it multi-tasks and yes it will do some of the stuff in os4, but watching Jobs demo it reveals that os4 does it in a really smooth efficient way.

Brillaint.

Now if only Apple can resolve the weak signal and move ther antenna from the bottom of the phone (duh where you hold it) to the top when the new iPhone comes out in June I might consider buying the new one.

Aerial in the bottom, is that right? How daft of them.

I don't see what's wrong with phones with external aerials. I used to love answering my old Motorola and pulling out the aerial at the same time.

I still have it and showed the kids the other day and they all laughed.

Gormond · 09-04-2010, 18:55

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Originally Posted by kyussmondo

:lol: Not the same size but the same sort of technology. Reading reviews the iPad has a really nice screen plus the viewing angle is better than anything out there. Although I guess for a phone, viewing angle is not as important as you are not going to be sharing this as much as an iPad.

Would a 3.7" be better? I don't mind the screen being a tiny bit bigger as long as it remains thin and can easily fit in my pocket.

The rumors are that the iPhone will use a screen twice the resolution and I agree that if it was a little bigger then that would also be better.

kyussmondo · 09-04-2010, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gormond

The rumors are that the iPhone will use a screen twice the resolution and I agree that if it was a little bigger then that would also be better.

Plus Apple will probably use the increased resolution correctly as Apple understands typefaces better than anyone unlike Google who made a complete hash of it.

sylvia-bounty · 09-04-2010, 19:12

Can't wait for the new iPhone!

I hope it is better than any other phone on hardware side ie. Camera, video calling etc.

IslandNiles · 09-04-2010, 19:23

Speaking of stuff that's at the bottom of the phone, I think the location of the speakers needs to be changed. (Doesn't the latest iPod touch have a speaker that runs pretty much all the way around the outside?) When playing games in landscape, I find myself holding the phone in an awkward way so as not to obstruct the speakers with my hand.

Steve™ · 09-04-2010, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by croyde

Aerial in the bottom, is that right? How daft of them.

I don't see what's wrong with phones with external aerials. I used to love answering my old Motorola and pulling out the aerial at the same time.

I still have it and showed the kids the other day and they all laughed.

Yes tis true I'm afraid, seems bizzare I know, its like where you put your hand thus shielding the signal, still hopefully Jobs will pull his finger out and move the antenna and make the phone part of the iPhone as good as the rest.

HA I bet they did laugh - it seems so dated now - yes I have an old StarTAC with an extendable antenna...kinda star trecky

LTT · 09-04-2010, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

Oh my God.

Stunning stunning stunning update and FREE!

Can't wait!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylvia-bounty

Is this maybe the most 'exciting' update to date?

It is for me, and seems like they will give iPhone a new lease of life in a sence.

Can't wait, I also can't wait to see the next gen iPhone!

!

Hmmmm I wouldn't quite go that far.

Yes I'm pleased with the features and grateful for the update but really there is nothing THAT exciting in the update.

Really the ability to make folders and multitasking is nothing special.

And before anyone starts, i have an iphone myself, love the phone. But at the same time I'm not an apple fanboy blinded by the hype.

mrvgarg · 09-04-2010, 21:03

?!?!?

All this 'new' fetaures - I have been using them ever since I can remember on Nokia and Symbian...

...with no adverts on applications. (Strange how people recommend using adblock/firefox and now suddenly adverts are accepted

)

robtuk06 · 09-04-2010, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvgarg

?!?!?

All this 'new' fetaures - I have been using them ever since I can remember on Nokia and Symbian...

...with no adverts on applications. (Strange how people recommend using adblock/firefox and now suddenly adverts are accepted

)

The difference is that Apple do things well.

I used Nokia phones for ten years until recently and I thought they were great. How wrong I was. Different league.

Gormond · 09-04-2010, 21:15

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Originally Posted by mrvgarg

?!?!?

All this 'new' fetaures - I have been using them ever since I can remember on Nokia and Symbian...

...with no adverts on applications. (Strange how people recommend using adblock/firefox and now suddenly adverts are accepted

)

These are adverts in application not on the internet which allow developers to give apps away free and still make a profit.

Yeah on paper Symbian looks good but in reality it's a horrible OS, the user experience is far worse than iPhone OS and Android.

I used to own a N95, even though I lost alot of features with the iPhone I would have never went back to the Nokia.

It's no surprise that Nokia's share in the smartphone market is dropping.

psionic · 10-04-2010, 00:49

Musclenerd didn't waste anytime on OS4 http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone-4-jail...e+Intelligence)

09-04-2010, 12:13	#51
JamesLook Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,438	Quote: Originally Posted by davethorp When I said a bunch of features lifted from jailbroken phones I meant that most of Apple's updates in OS4.0 are features that can already be done if you JB your iPhone. Folders also isn't a feature thats been created by jailbreaking as it's been around since the earliest incarnations of windows but it is a feature that can be added to jailbroken iPhones It's almost as though Steve jailbroke his iPhone and then thought to himself "wow so this is what the phone can actually do.... suppose we better do it and then maybe people wont want to jailbreak" You mean folders have been around since the Mac.

09-04-2010, 21:03	#72
mrvgarg Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Slough Posts: 1,139	?!?!? All this 'new' fetaures - I have been using them ever since I can remember on Nokia and Symbian... ...with no adverts on applications. (Strange how people recommend using adblock/firefox and now suddenly adverts are accepted)

09-04-2010, 21:06	#73
robtuk06 Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,425	Quote: Originally Posted by mrvgarg ?!?!? All this 'new' fetaures - I have been using them ever since I can remember on Nokia and Symbian... ...with no adverts on applications. (Strange how people recommend using adblock/firefox and now suddenly adverts are accepted) The difference is that Apple do things well. I used Nokia phones for ten years until recently and I thought they were great. How wrong I was. Different league.

09-04-2010, 21:15	#74
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by mrvgarg ?!?!? All this 'new' fetaures - I have been using them ever since I can remember on Nokia and Symbian... ...with no adverts on applications. (Strange how people recommend using adblock/firefox and now suddenly adverts are accepted) These are adverts in application not on the internet which allow developers to give apps away free and still make a profit. Yeah on paper Symbian looks good but in reality it's a horrible OS, the user experience is far worse than iPhone OS and Android. I used to own a N95, even though I lost alot of features with the iPhone I would have never went back to the Nokia. It's no surprise that Nokia's share in the smartphone market is dropping.

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09-04-2010, 12:15	#52
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	Quote: Originally Posted by JamesLook You mean folders have been around since the Mac. That too

09-04-2010, 12:46	#53
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by TheSoulBrother There definitely is a (strong) element of tribalism around. It's been the case forever in the tech world so it's nothing surprising. What I will say is that the featurelist culture is ***ing annoying* to me. That you are crazy for buying x when it doesn't have y or z. The great thing about this market is that there is genuinely good choice about - a number of viable platforms, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I just don't understand why people get all pissy and offended about platforms they haven't bought into. Yeah I couldn't agree more, also the user experience isn't just based on a list of features, if that was the case everyone would use Symbian and Windows Mobile 6.5 as on paper it looks as if they are perfect, but from my personal experience with these platforms they are far from a perfect user experience.

09-04-2010, 13:24	#54
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Quote: Originally Posted by Gormond Yeah I couldn't agree more, also the user experience isn't just based on a list of features, if that was the case everyone would use Symbian and Windows Mobile 6.5 as on paper it looks as if they are perfect, but from my personal experience with these platforms they are far from a perfect user experience. I agree with this. On paper they should be great but in practice they are not. At least no Windows mobile 6.5. I have a phone which has this OS, when I got it I thought I would find it really useful because of all the features it lists and would be a good phone to use in my work. In reality it was not what I thought it would be, for all it's features I still find my iphone 3G easier to use and more useful to me for work.

09-04-2010, 14:01	#55
myromeo Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tyne & Wear Posts: 1,326	have those of you bashing the iphone os owned/used an iphone for any reasonable period of time? Im yet to meet anyone, including people who have previously hated the iphone, who have used it and dont think it is superb. yes, it may lack some features available on other phones but its the user experience that sets it apart, its (IMO) the easiest smartphone to use, has a very stable system, is fast and responsive and has a superb app store to add to it. I must however admit im not blown away by the os4 additions, at least not the ones mentioned yesterday. two things I had hoped for are widgets (calendar, new mail etc) and bluetooth transfer to other devices... maybe we will get these tho as steve jobs did seem to suggest widgets are in the pipeline...

09-04-2010, 14:35	#56
Noiseboy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tonbridge, Kent Posts: 2,582	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic If you're reading in landscape mode - try put the phone upside down (earpiece down) . It stops it flipping when reading in bed etc. Ooooh, nice one! Thanks!

09-04-2010, 15:33	#57
kyussmondo Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 1,731	I am generally quite pleased with the update. I would have liked to have seen widgets and a notification menu. Widgets are useful for doing things quicker, say if you want to see the weather or post a Facebook update then you can easily do it from the homescreen without entering the full app. Secondly, with a notification menu then different apps could pull up notifications at the top like in Android. One thing it doesn't do is interrupt you with a notification right in the centre of the screen so you can ignore it if you want, or you could pull it down from the top and go and see it. I also use push email a lot more than texts these days. On the iPhone there is only a sound notification, so it is quite easy to miss emails if you don't hear the alert. A notification menu would at least tell you if you have email waiting for you. One welcome addition is VOIP which is now actually useful with multitasking. I doubt the networks will like it too much though! Although, with Skype allowed, why doesn't Apple allow Google Voice? Google Voice looks amazingly useful. I like that it gives you one number and then you can easily set it to forward it to whichever phone you are at or a new phone if you get a new phone. Not to mention having a visual voicemail type system but with voice to speech. Of course Google has to bring the service to the UK first of all. I am led to believe that Google won't bring Google Voice to the UK because it is too expensive. Calling a mobile in the US is the same cost as calling a landline, whereas in the UK it is currently more expensive calling mobiles. Although if I am not mistaken OFCOM recently ruled that the telcos need to cut their connection charges by 90% which could mean we see Google Voice sooner rather than later. The only downside is we might have to start paying to receive calls/texts as well making calls. Although if we pay less and we get stuff like Google Voice then I am all for it. Folders seems really useful. I could just put 4 folders in the dock each in their own category of my most used apps. I welcome iAd, if it makes ads better than the current ads in some iPhone apps I am all for it as I realise app developers have to make their bread somehow. Can't wait for new hardware though. My current iPhone 3G is still great but I have nearly had it 2 years now and all these phones like the Google Nexus One with their 5MP cameras and superfast processors are making me a bit jealous. Hopefully they can make the new phone as fast as the iPad with the same battery life and same screen with a 5MP camera. I'm not getting a 3GS for something just a little bit faster, I want something that will smash my 3G and make the Nexus One look like a little b****

09-04-2010, 17:51	#58
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	I have a jailbroken iPhone, yes it multi-tasks and yes it will do some of the stuff in os4, but watching Jobs demo it reveals that os4 does it in a really smooth efficient way. Brillaint. Now if only Apple can resolve the weak signal and move ther antenna from the bottom of the phone (duh where you hold it) to the top when the new iPhone comes out in June I might consider buying the new one.

09-04-2010, 17:54	#59
nufc4life Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: newcastle Posts: 1,080	so what phone are they demoing this on as it shows multitasking and this is only avalible on the new iphone 4 hummmm?

09-04-2010, 18:04	#60
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo Hopefully they can make the new phone as fast as the iPad with the same battery life and same screen with a 5MP camera. You want a phone with the same screen as the iPad? I can only assume I have misread this statement lol as this http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...modifi-001.jpg comes to mind

09-04-2010, 18:08	#61
robtuk06 Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,425	Quote: Originally Posted by nufc4life so what phone are they demoing this on as it shows multitasking and this is only avalible on the new iphone 4 hummmm? eh? Multitasking is for the 3GS too.

09-04-2010, 18:17	#62
imagegrill Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 307	spot on SoulBrother Quote: The great thing about this market is that there is genuinely good choice about - a number of viable platforms, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I just don't understand why people get all pissy and offended about platforms they haven't bought into. To be fair, as a life long (what an odd thing to say about a mobile company!) Nokia user I am genuinly interested in the iPhone. Ok, so free Sat Nav is good for Nokia, but if I can afford an iPhone I can afford £50 (or whatever it is) to get Sat Nav for that. It seems most companies chuck out all features straight away whether bug free and working well or not (Nokia N97 for example). Yet Apple only release what works and build up the feature set as the go along, essentially adding value along the way. Particularly interesting as they announced the new OS this April to build up for a new hardware release in June. That is simple very good marketing. I won't deny though that the product is also good. Can they tempt me away from my N97...... lets see what happens in June

09-04-2010, 18:26	#63
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by nufc4life so what phone are they demoing this on as it shows multitasking and this is only avalible on the new iphone 4 hummmm? Quote: Originally Posted by robtuk06 eh? Multitasking is for the 3GS too. Indeed it's only not available for the 3G which TBH is a 2 year old phone and it gets all the other features of the new OS, just misses that because it has half the RAM of the 3GS. I have a 3G and the fact it's not available doesn't bother me, things move on.

09-04-2010, 18:49	#64
kyussmondo Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 1,731	Quote: Originally Posted by Gormond You want a phone with the same screen as the iPad? I can only assume I have misread this statement lol as this http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...modifi-001.jpg comes to mind :lol: Not the same size but the same sort of technology. Reading reviews the iPad has a really nice screen plus the viewing angle is better than anything out there. Although I guess for a phone, viewing angle is not as important as you are not going to be sharing this as much as an iPad. Would a 3.7" be better? I don't mind the screen being a tiny bit bigger as long as it remains thin and can easily fit in my pocket.

09-04-2010, 18:54	#65
croyde Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 237	Quote: Originally Posted by Steve™ I have a jailbroken iPhone, yes it multi-tasks and yes it will do some of the stuff in os4, but watching Jobs demo it reveals that os4 does it in a really smooth efficient way. Brillaint. Now if only Apple can resolve the weak signal and move ther antenna from the bottom of the phone (duh where you hold it) to the top when the new iPhone comes out in June I might consider buying the new one. Aerial in the bottom, is that right? How daft of them. I don't see what's wrong with phones with external aerials. I used to love answering my old Motorola and pulling out the aerial at the same time. I still have it and showed the kids the other day and they all laughed.

09-04-2010, 18:55	#66
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by kyussmondo :lol: Not the same size but the same sort of technology. Reading reviews the iPad has a really nice screen plus the viewing angle is better than anything out there. Although I guess for a phone, viewing angle is not as important as you are not going to be sharing this as much as an iPad. Would a 3.7" be better? I don't mind the screen being a tiny bit bigger as long as it remains thin and can easily fit in my pocket. The rumors are that the iPhone will use a screen twice the resolution and I agree that if it was a little bigger then that would also be better.

09-04-2010, 18:59	#67
kyussmondo Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Posts: 1,731	Quote: Originally Posted by Gormond The rumors are that the iPhone will use a screen twice the resolution and I agree that if it was a little bigger then that would also be better. Plus Apple will probably use the increased resolution correctly as Apple understands typefaces better than anyone unlike Google who made a complete hash of it.

09-04-2010, 19:12	#68
sylvia-bounty Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 718	Can't wait for the new iPhone! I hope it is better than any other phone on hardware side ie. Camera, video calling etc.

09-04-2010, 19:23	#69
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Speaking of stuff that's at the bottom of the phone, I think the location of the speakers needs to be changed. (Doesn't the latest iPod touch have a speaker that runs pretty much all the way around the outside?) When playing games in landscape, I find myself holding the phone in an awkward way so as not to obstruct the speakers with my hand.

09-04-2010, 20:07	#70
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by croyde Aerial in the bottom, is that right? How daft of them. I don't see what's wrong with phones with external aerials. I used to love answering my old Motorola and pulling out the aerial at the same time. I still have it and showed the kids the other day and they all laughed. Yes tis true I'm afraid, seems bizzare I know, its like where you put your hand thus shielding the signal, still hopefully Jobs will pull his finger out and move the antenna and make the phone part of the iPhone as good as the rest. HA I bet they did laugh - it seems so dated now - yes I have an old StarTAC with an extendable antenna...kinda star trecky

09-04-2010, 20:44	#71
LTT Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,295	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundburst Oh my God. Stunning stunning stunning update and FREE! Can't wait! Quote: Originally Posted by sylvia-bounty Is this maybe the most 'exciting' update to date? It is for me, and seems like they will give iPhone a new lease of life in a sence. Can't wait, I also can't wait to see the next gen iPhone! ! Hmmmm I wouldn't quite go that far. Yes I'm pleased with the features and grateful for the update but really there is nothing THAT exciting in the update. Really the ability to make folders and multitasking is nothing special. And before anyone starts, i have an iphone myself, love the phone. But at the same time I'm not an apple fanboy blinded by the hype.

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10-04-2010, 00:49	#75
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Musclenerd didn't waste anytime on OS4 http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone-4-jail...e+Intelligence)