*Waves excitedly back*, it's nice to meet old friends on here.

I honestly think there is no Moff backlash, he will have some rubbish, average and brilliant stories (very much like RTD). I think the trick is not to assume that everyone criticising an episode does so because of Moff, and vice versa, not everyone who defends an episode is a Moff superfan. Some of us don't care who wrote which story, as long as it entertains us.

I quite like these episodes, am I about to find a Dalek at my door.

Unicorn and the Wasp is everything that Dr Who should not be.

What just like the fact that the Doctor shouldn't be anti-authority? If anyone new wanted to know what Doctor is about....you'd definitely be the last...actually you'll definitely be the only person I wouldn't advise them to ask! In fact they are better of asking a hermit who has never seen or even heard of Doctor Who!



But on a serious note....considering that if you just look at Classic Who only, and see the variety of the styles in story telling and stuff....is there really a proper way to that Doctor Who should be?

Yes I would argue that Dr Who should be more about "The Claws of Axos" or "Inferno" or "Arc of Infinty" or "The Caves of Andrezini".

And yet they are all very different to each other!

and what they have in commoon is that none of them are stupid, glib, facetious or silly.

Unlike Unircron and the WASP. Which is an abomination.

I'd say they were all stupid, glib, facetious and silly.

'The Caves Of Androzani', for example, is built upon the premise of bat poo that makes you live forever!

Regards,

Cypher

What Tim said!!!!


Doctor Who is great when it is silly! Another example from Inferno....when the Doctor tries to get the console to work...and look where he ends up....I doubt that was about sophisticated adult humour!!!

By silly I mean not taking the stories seriuosly.

Classic Who imbued every story with proper seriousness - there was none of the crassness and glibness associated with RTD's puerile product.

I completely agree - sure, you could describe episodes of 'Doctor Who' as glib, silly...whatever.

But that's not what 'Doctor Who' shouldn't be...that's actually what it *is*!

Regards,

Cypher

See my point of above! But as always.....you seem to have selective chioices and opinions....so much so that it is hard to take you seriously!!!

Lol true!!!

You clearly haven't watched much of the Classic Series...which is a shame - you should do, it's bloody great!

'Doctor Who' has been lampooning itself on a regular basis pretty much since 'The Romans' onwards, but I've read some pretty good essays arguing that the silliness kicked in far before.

Regards,

Cypher

Yes, even though I haven't read any of those essays...I know I would pretty much agree with them....but if visual evidence is needed for our dear freind Poppy...then there is no better than this!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW0H_rprV-g&feature=fvw

I am an expert on Classic Who having written several articles on it for sveral periodicals. I have also served on the Dr Who official fans forum for several years.
I have also spend dozens of pounds on searching for issing epsiodes.

I have seen every episdoe of Dr Who on at least 10 occasions and I have even some episode whcih dont exist to the general public!

Nur, nur...I've seen every episode of Doctor Who at least 11 times.

Regards,

Cypher

That really doesn't make you any "better-er" a fan than someone who just joined in with "The Eleventh Hour" though...

99% of people's problems with your posts on here is when you think you speak for them or know more than them about what THEY want from Doctor Who...

Personally I much prefer episodes that don't take themselves seriously and you can have a laugh along with them on the way...does that make ME wrong?

I would hope not...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60r0jXOMsys

THIS is what I want from Doctor Who

but you also said that you knew 40 people out of a hundred were first groaning at the gay reference in Midnight...and today you said that 40 peole were angry and upset and fustrated at that reference!



You really do know how to convince people!

40 peole were angry and upset and fustrated at the reference - I could tell from their groans, murmurs and whispers. It was obvious. I wa sthere,

You are little more than a sad, tired old thing who clearly is in need of regeneration - you slide in here on your sludge, throw around bigotry and insults, you clearly have no concept of spelling, grammar or punctuation therefore the publications that have published your work are presumably drafted in crayon - dozens of pounds? Wow...you spend £24.00...£36.00...£48.00 searching for missing episodes? You sound a bit like Lord Percy searching for the Alchemist's dream of lead into gold...

LOL !!!!! That would make an interesting episode!!!


seriously...this convincing business...not working

I thought you'd watched a lot of Classic Who but obviously you've only seen selected stories if you honestly think that! Even going back as far as The Romans the story was NOT imbued with proper seriousness.

Should have read Cypher's posting before I replied! Snap!