Hi there, first time I've ever made a thread so if it goes wrong please don't make me cry

So far in New Who, there have been 6 Moffat stories, and I was just interested in seeing how people rate them compared to each other, and how the two newest rate compared to the older four.

So for me,

1) Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead - loved the story, loved the idea of meeting someone after they've already met you, loved the reference to the Doctor's name.

2) The Eleventh Hour - great introduction story, maybe not the most intriguing threat but still solid.

3) Blink - a brilliant idea for a monster, as are most of SM's monster ideas.

4) The Beast Below - surprised that many didn't like it, maybe not the best but certainly not the worst, and a nice moral dilemma.

5) Girl in the Fireplace - okay, but didn't like it as much as I think most did.

6) The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances - I understand this is a popular story but I never really found it that scary, and while I don't mind deus ex machina endings (we're not exactly going to get an extended shootout every episode in Doctor Who), I never really liked the nanomachine twist.

What about everyone else?

Hi good thread!


For me...I'm not a huge fan of the stories by moff...but this is my order anyway...

1)the Empty Child/The Doctor Dances- So brilliant in everyway...clever without shouting it from the rooftops, beautiful emotions played out brilliantly, acting great from all, really scary, even to this day...effective use of telling the monster to go away. Cheeky and witty dialogue, great subtext of sexual politics, and great atmosphere of capturing the London Blitz....just brilliant all round! And the only time the Everybody lives works fantastically!

2)The Beast Below....again full of great political and human nature subtexts, no character simply black and white....and great performances from most! altogether a great watch! And again not screaming its cleverness that much from the rooftops.

3)The Girl in the Fireplace....celevr little story definitely...also gets the romantic in me....favourite part the end where we find out the name of the ship but the Doctor doesn't. As a story, and its scare factor....and no much depth or layers...results in this story falling down the line as time goes by....but another positive thing about it is that it is beautifully shot.

4)Blink- well the first time round it is a pefect treat!...loved every minute of it....but as time goes on....it really feels nothing special at all...it doesn't give me the same feelinga s it did. And unfortunatly, thanks to a fellow poster on DS, I can't watch this story without trying to pick holes! Hope one day that i will be able to watch it with fresh eyes again. But right now, it doens't feel so special anymore....and actually lacks any reall depth too, its just trying to be a clever story. And the Angels are not that scary anymore. The positive things that I still feel for it are the cast...especailly the supporting cast! brilliant!

5) the eleventh hour- the main saving grace of this story is Matt and Karen, the supporting cast, some lovely moments like the beginning which makes me wish I was child again and could meet the Doctor myself, and also the comedy moments were brilliant...and the ending of the eleventh Doctor in the way he chooses his clothes, and walks through the Doctor images is cool. But in the end there are many moments in the story which annoy me....usually the whole feeling that I get of the repitition of Moff's previous work...like the Timey Wimey reference...and telling the monsters to go away.....just get on my nerves....and the story was very predictable at times, the plot seemed to be a mess, not decideing on whether it wanted to be small scale...or large, or humourous or scary...and I feel that Moff just didn't get the balance right. It was longer than it should have been. But absolutly love Matt and Karen in it.

6)Silence in the Library/forset of the dead.....saving grace, the cast! And some lovely moments and again comedy moments were laugh out loud....but again this story for me was trying to be too clever...that it actually become a little predictable as it went along...and the whole "saved" and "these are our forest" was something I worked out before the Doctor did...and that annoyed me. But the owrse thing about this two parter was that despite it being the Moff's fourth story....there were not many new ideas he had here....it was merely nothing more tha a greatest hits album....and again not much depth to the story...so on repeat viewings...there is nothing new to ever pick up on.

Can I vote for Blink first and all the others joint second? No? OK, then I guess I'd have to say:

1) Blink-one of the best Doctor Who stories ever, perfect TV.
2) The Empty Child/Doctor Dances-genuinely creepy in places, witty in others, with excellent performances all round.
3) The Beast Below-clever and thought provoking.
4) Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead-very clever concept.
5) The 11th Hour-a really nice introductory story for the new team, if a bit lightweight by Moffat's usual standards.
6) The Girl in the Fireplace-a good story, spoiled only by the usual excesses from David Tennant.

1) The Empty Child/the Doctor Dances.
2) Blink.
3) Girl in the Fireplace.
4) Library/Forest of the Dead.
5) The Eleventh Hour (but his focus was clearly on the new characters, not the story, so it was very good at doing the job it needed to do).
6) Beast Below.

1. Blink

2. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances

3. Silence In The Library/Forest of the Dead

4. The Girl In The Fireplace

5. The Eleventh Hour

6. The Beast Below

but i think it may b a little premature as later eps in s5 may make the 11th hr and the beast below better/worse depending on how things pan out

Good point. Is he writing any other stories this series besides Ep 4/5 and the finale?

1. The Girl in the Fireplace

2. The Empty Child 2 parter

3. Blink

4. Silence in the Library 2 parter

5. The Eleventh Hour

6. The Beast Below

Worrying thing is, apart from the 1st 2 being reversed, each subsequent story is worse.............

1. Blink (by a country mile!) Abs Fantastic & really scary
2. Silence in the Library 2 parter
3. The Empty Child 2 parter
4. The Girl in the Fireplace
5. The Eleventh Hour
6. The Beast Below

1st The Empty Child story

2nd Silence in the Library story

3rd Blink

4th The Girl in the Fireplace

5th The Eleventh Hour

6th The Beast Below

I'll repost at the end of the series.

1. Blink
2. The Beast Below
3. The Empty Child
4. The Girl in the Fireplace
5. The Eleventh Hour
6. Silence in the Library