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Muttley76
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“ I just think - in my OPINION - they shouldn't use a household name as an advantage. It's moraly wrong.”

It's a level playing field. I don't see any moral issue unless only one party is allowed to do it.

Stop pretending this is anything other than you be upset DT doesn't support the Tory party.
davidnicholl
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“He has a right to an opinion. i have a right to an opinion. you have a right to an opinion. Hell, even mickey mouse has a right to an opinion. I just think - in my OPINION - they shouldn't use a household name as an advantage. It's moraly wrong.”

You see m to be under the impression that this is all Labour's doing. Where is your evidence for this?

Whereas it seems to me (unless you can provide evidence to the contrary) that DT is voicing his opinion as a voter.

Tell us honestly, if DT had come out supporting the Torys would you be so outraged?
dalekaddison
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“It's a level playing field. I don't see any moral issue unless only one party is allowed to do it.

Stop pretending this is anything other than you be upset DT doesn't support the Tory party.”

Maybe it is but thats your opinion and my opinion it's wrong to manipulate people.






(And the Doctor would think likewise )
Muttley76
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by GARETH197901:
“get three randoms in”


Random A

Random B

Random C
11's Bow Tie
14-04-2010
B gets my vote
Muttley76
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“Maybe it is but thats your opinion and my opinion it's wrong to manipulate people.”

If you don't like manipulation then I am sure you will be first in line to condemn the anti-labour propaganda being churned out by the Murdoch Media then won't you?

Now that really is manipulation.
GARETH197901
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Random A

Random B

Random C”

B gets my Vote
DavidG_UK
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“Maybe it is but thats your opinion and my opinion it's wrong to manipulate people.






(And the Doctor would think likewise )”

Manipulate people? By being himself ? By reading a few words along the lines of "Labour have reduced taxes in ten eyars etc etc"

The Conservatie party are within their rights to get an equally well known household name to do a voice over for them and "manipulate" everyone.
davidnicholl
14-04-2010
Do you understand what manipulating means?

To influence or control shrewdly or deviously.

How is this manipulation if he is giving his own opinion? An opinion that it is well documented that he has held for a long time.
Hallamsteriscoo
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“Maybe it is but thats your opinion and my opinion it's wrong to manipulate people.






(And the Doctor would think likewise )”

I'm actually quite insulted that you think that I don't have a mind of my own and am therefore swayed by the fact that a actor that has previously played the Doctor is supporting one of the political parties. You are obviously capable of making your own mind up so why can't you give the same credit to others?


Who I do and don't vote for is not swayed by which "flavour of the month" does a voice over for a party political broadcast, there are far more important issues that decide where I put my cross come poling day.
dalekaddison
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by DavidG_UK:
“Manipulate people? By being himself ? By reading a few words along the lines of "Labour have reduced taxes in ten eyars etc etc"

The Conservatie party are within their rights to get an equally well known household name to do a voice over for them and "manipulate" everyone.”

But i think the IDEA is wrong not just that DT is doing it.


(And no, in my opinion, yes you know, the thing me, dt and you all have a right too, taxes have increased. And besides, no one voted for Gordan Brown anyway.)


I was bringing it all to your attention anyway as everyone is so fixsated about a rumored return or two i thought you would all be interested or symperthetic to my





right to an opinion


about not liking an idea. Sorry if my opinion clashes with yours. Burn me now!

Now, remember my first example. What would you do if you had kids and there teacher told them Labour was good. Or if a blue peter presenter did? It would be an outrage!!!!! But to think DT does it. Who cares! He WAS the Doctor!

But thats your opinion and in mine he shouldn't do it. Whether HE IS the Doctor or not.
Muttley76
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by Hallamsteriscoo:
“Who I do and don't vote for is not swayed by which "flavour of the month" does a voice over for a party political broadcast, there are far more important issues that decide where I put my cross come poling day.”

Indeed issues that concern me:

The NHS
The BBC

Two issues you couldn't trust the Torys with for a moment.

Which isn't to say I will vote Labour by default, but the fate of these two great and noble, if flawed, institutions weighs a lot more heavily on my mind than the fact that a certain actor is doing a voice over for a certain party.
dalekaddison
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by Hallamsteriscoo:
“I'm actually quite insulted that you think that I don't have a mind of my own and am therefore swayed by the fact that a actor that has previously played the Doctor is supporting one of the political parties. You are obviously capable of making your own mind up so why can't you give the same credit to others?


Who I do and don't vote for is not swayed by which "flavour of the month" does a voice over for a party political broadcast, there are far more important issues that decide where I put my cross come poling day.”

But come one! This is labour all over again! It's got labour written all over it! What will kids think hmm? You may not be a 6 year old who looks up to the Doctor but there are, surprisingly, some who are and may get manipulated into doing so. They can't vote. But that could shape there future votes.
Mood Indigo
14-04-2010
I intially presumed that the OP started this thread as a joke....scarily they didn't'.

DT, is a lifelong Labour supporter and I suspect a paid up party member. As such I'd be gobsmacked if he wasn't active during a general election campaign. That's what party activists do.

Having read through the OPs earlier posts, an exercise not dissimilar to wading through a vat of very, very thick treacle, I chanced upon this gem:

Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“I understand he has a right to an opinion but don't believe he should broadcast it so. And i wish to state that i to have a right to an opinion. I know, surprising isn't it? How an average Joe like myself has a right to moan. Even if that right may disagree with others i still can.”

And who pray tell has said you cannot give your opinion. Stop the melodrama.The simple fact is as Muttley76 has stated you're just p*ssed off because DT doesn't support your own political views. You're a Doctor Who fan and an actor who has played the role to considerable popular acclaim is a Labour Party supporter. Tough luck pal. Your party has it's own glittering array of stars to call upon to further their election cause, ermmm Jim Davidson, Paul Daniels, et al.

And I see that William Roche, aka Ken Barlow off of Corrie has participated in a Conservative election broadcast. WHAT!!! But he IS Ken Barlow, and Ken's a Guardian reading, caring sharing, leftie...... William Roache..How Dare You.

I await with bated breath your own rant against such flagrant manipulation by this well known soap actor to appear in the Soaps forum.

Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“And secondly, conservatives....blah blah blah ....”

And that little diatribe has exactly what to do with this forum?.

Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“And DTs backing this? He is allowed. But he can easily manipulate people. He's the frigging Doctor! If he said 'all Whoies, meet me here at this time for a party' who would go? You would! It makes sense when you think about it.

It's bogstandard manipulation if you think about it. And i have a right to not like it.”

Earth to dalekaddison:
a) DT is an actor who played the role of a fictional, emphasis on the word fictional...character, in a Sci Fi series

b) Any child, emphasis on the word child, who loves DT as the Doctor....can...not...vote.

c) As bloody if, emphasis on the words as bloody if, anyone over the age of 18 is going to decide to vote Labour simply because DT who once played Dr Who says so.

You seem to believe that David Tennant himself has some sort of mindy windy, bendy wendy thought control powers going on, which he uses at the behest of his Labour overlords to dupe an unsuspecting electorate.

I fear my friend you've reached some scary place where the division between fantasy and reality is but a blur.

You're talking bog standard nonsense and I have the right to laugh at it.
11's Bow Tie
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“And besides, no one voted for Gordan Brown anyway.)”

You vote for the party not its leader.
Muttley76
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by 11's Bow Tie:
“You vote for the party not its leader.”

I think perhaps the OP has a limited understanding of the voting system in the UK. Probably thinks it's a similar system to the US...
DavidG_UK
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“But i think the IDEA is wrong not just that DT is doing it.


(And no, in my opinion, yes you know, the thing me, dt and you all have a right too, taxes have increased. And besides, no one voted for Gordan Brown anyway.)


I was bringing it all to your attention anyway as everyone is so fixsated about a rumored return or two i thought you would all be interested or symperthetic to my





right to an opinion


about not liking an idea. Sorry if my opinion clashes with yours. Burn me now!

Now, remember my first example. What would you do if you had kids and there teacher told them Labour was good. Or if a blue peter presenter did? It would be an outrage!!!!! But to think DT does it. Who cares! He WAS the Doctor!

But thats your opinion and in mine he shouldn't do it. Whether HE IS the Doctor or not.”

So you're saying then that every actor shouldn't do voice overs for political parties? Not just someone as recently famus as tennant?

As yes we all agree you're entitled to your opinion, we're all just trying to explain to you that this is the norm for politics especially during an election. Many actors have strong political views and during an election they will voice their support for a party either in interviews or puiblic appearances or voice overs.

There is a BIG difference between a Blue Peter presenter saying on Blue Peter they support Labour to them saying in an interview on the News they support Labour for example.

I'm sorry if you've been a bit taken aback at everyone's rush to "come back at you" but I think we're all a little surprised at your outrage at something that is completely normal and has been going on for years.

At the end of the day it's David Tennant the ACTOR who supports Labour not The Doctor the 903 year old fictional character from an imaginery planet.
vampirek
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Indeed issues that concern me:

The NHS
The BBC

Two issues you couldn't trust the Torys with for a moment.

Which isn't to say I will vote Labour by default, but the fate of these two great and noble, if flawed, institutions weighs a lot more heavily on my mind than the fact that a certain actor is doing a voice over for a certain party.”

Well then, this may interest you:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...5304255&ref=nf

Why in this country do people think you can pick between two parties? About time this country did the right thing and kicked both Labour and the Torys out of power. I'm no Lib Dem person, but at least they aren't Tory or Labour plus Vince Cable is the only man who should be trusted with the country's money, the other two just don't cut it (as seen in the debate)

As for the thread, DT can express his opinions the way he likes too. I understand where you are coming from, considering teachers have to be equal and not promote a party to children however DT is not in the limelight everyday working with children, he has done other acting roles.
dalekaddison
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by 11's Bow Tie:
“You vote for the party not its leader.”

But he is an important part and changes what they do.
Hallamsteriscoo
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“But come one! This is labour all over again! It's got labour written all over it! What will kids think hmm? You may not be a 6 year old who looks up to the Doctor but there are, surprisingly, some who are and may get manipulated into doing so. They can't vote. But that could shape there future votes.”

In what way has my post got Labour written all over it, the same could apply to any party. It seems that your stated Conservative leanings are clouding your judgement when reading others posts.

Just my opinion, but I seriously doubt that by the time these 6 year olds are eligible to vote they will remember a party political broadcast featuring someone that doesn't even appear on screen, and which they probably haven't watched in the first place.
Muttley76
14-04-2010
OP have you started that thread in the soap forum about Ken Barlow yet?
DavidG_UK
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by Hallamsteriscoo:
“In what way has my post got Labour written all over it, the same could apply to any party. It seems that your stated Conservative leanings are clouding your judgement when reading others posts.

Just my opinion, but I seriously doubt that by the time these 6 year olds are eligible to vote they will remember a party political broadcast featuring someone that doesn't even appear on screen, and which they probably haven't watched in the first place.”

Indeed. The idea that a 6 year old would actually watch and understand a party political broadcast rather perplexes me! If he did realise it was Tennant speaking on it he'd still wonder what on earth Tennant was talking about. Then he'd completely forget about it and ask Mummy when Doctor Who was on next with his favourite Doctor, Matt Smith and the pretty lady with the long red hair.
dalekaddison
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by DavidG_UK:
“So you're saying then that every actor shouldn't do voice overs for political parties? Not just someone as recently famus as tennant?

As yes we all agree you're entitled to your opinion, we're all just trying to explain to you that this is the norm for politics especially during an election. Many actors have strong political views and during an election they will voice their support for a party either in interviews or puiblic appearances or voice overs.

There is a BIG difference between a Blue Peter presenter saying on Blue Peter they support Labour to them saying in an interview on the News they support Labour for example.

I'm sorry if you've been a bit taken aback at everyone's rush to "come back at you" but I think we're all a little surprised at your outrage at something that is completely normal and has been going on for years.

At the end of the day it's David Tennant the ACTOR who supports Labour not The Doctor the 903 year old fictional character from an imaginery planet.”

But i haven't noticed. I'm 16 now nearly 17 and being on the prospect of reaching a job i have deicided to pay attention to my future and who changes it. Before i couldn't care less. If Gordon Brown got in again it would be fine as me and my friend could draw hilarious comics where he gets gunged. (Is that how you spell it?). Now i care, and have noticed these errors which should be sorted out. In my opinion. And should just be about the people who matter. I.E not DT but party leaders.

and your also forgetting what i previously said. Out of all the actors who are into labour why david tennant. Because hes famous and swings people around to them. End of story. It happens.

I could compare this to an event in Doctor Who but i think that would ruin my side of the arguement.

Now anyway, i am surprised by the amount of people retaliating to my opinion on this thread and indeed have been overwhelmed. I was just bringing to the attention of all you people who want DT to come back and love him so, that he too is part of the governmental folly that makes me look away from my beloved britain with shame! Such tricks and treachory just for what? God knows.

Anywho, i'm off to a different forum as this is getting tedious. Dealing with so many people who would be happy to assualt be verbally for my opinion purely because it contradicts theres.

Ta Ra!
Muttley76
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“
Ta Ra!”


Bye bye.
November_Rain
14-04-2010
Originally Posted by dalekaddison:
“Right. As everybody sane realises there is an election to come i thought i should turn you all to Gordon Browns latest weapon: David Tennant.

I have seen various locations in which DT has shown he has an interest for the Labour party. Radio times, Adverts, Articles ETC ETC. THIS IS WRONG!

I understand DT has a right to his opinion but he should not be allowed to broadcast it. I understand as well that everybody can tell there opinion but if you think this then you are, like his actions, wrong.

I, myself, have the Doctor as a rolemodel ( ) but a i know limits. Younger viewers however will not. With David Tennant prancing around saying he's a labour man, many people will be swayed to liking them just because he does. It'S WRONG! It would be like a teacher telling his pupils to vote labour. Although, DT is not saying this, but he is suggesting they are good in a manner, which if a teacher did likewise, would probably be fired or punished for it.

This trick by Labour is corrupting our government. Again. And after reading Radio times' interview with Gordon Brown. It shows he is rather fond of DT as well.

This is just like that stunt they pulled awhile ago sending letters to cancer patients saying they would die if Conservative got in! Note: this is suggested by saying they would not get treatment.

David Tennant cannot broadcast his views. All hell would break loose if a blue peter presenter did likewise. People will easily be swayed to vote labour.

I think, therefore, David Tennant should apologize or something. He is misusing his Doctor powers.

Whose with me!?!?!?!


(I also find it odd he teams with the party who will become the Government his most famous character tried to stop. )”

David Tennant has every right to broadcast his opinions, and rightly so. You are broadcasting your opinions as you type. That's the whole point of free speech.

Do you think Michael Caine should refrain from promoting the Tories too?
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