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wildbill_hicock
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by Miss_Qwerty:
“I've just been watching the episode again, and most of the "Old style" Daleks have union jack motifs, but the gold one has a funny key symbol (You can see it close up at about 20 minutes in if someone cleverer than me can get a screen shot). Just got me curious.

Might be nothing since the old style ones were destroyed, but if they were coming back in another episode it might be the key to the pandorical or something?”

All RTD daleks had similar images on that plate - supposed to be the Dalek's designation/name in dalek alphabet.
roland rat
18-04-2010
If the new daleks have destroyed the old daleks, and gone back in time

next bit in spoiler


Spoiler

The daleks go back home to Skaro, destroy all the daleks, and davros, and rebuild the dalek empire, so there fore the time war never took place, so now the time lord exsist once more, all of this cause the cracks in time, as all that has happend was not meant to happen

This might explain why amy dosnt remember the daleks, at the end of time never happened
Warriah
18-04-2010
It may be that it is the 90s but there is someone there who invented the internet, laptops, mobile phones plasma and lcd tvs the lot and got very rich

maybe

Spoiler
Someone sent back in time by the Weeping Angels like the policeman (Billy?) who went into the dvd trade when he had been sent back, It could be someone technical minded who ended up mega rich due to future knowledge
KnowAll27
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“While the laptops and camera phones certainly suggest it's circa 2010, supposedly (not checked it myself) all the Cars have registration numbers from the 1990's.

Also IIRC when set photo's of Leadworth were leaked people picked up on the fact that there was a newspaper stand giving the date as sometime in the 1990's.

The theory at the time was that this was for scenes with Young Amy but as all those scenes were just in her house/garden why did they dress the village green scene for the 1990's?





Even though the Reality Bomb would have affected all Universes it was only the Earth of the Whoverse that was moved across Space and invaded by Daleks.

So it could be possible that Amy is from a Universe where the Daleks have never been heard of.

Only trouble with the theory that all this series is in an alt universe is that we were told in RotC/AoS that the TARDIS could not work in another Universe.”

I think I read somewhere that instead os a "Doctor and Companion - lite" episode (like "Blink") we'll get a "Doctor-lite" episode (like "Turn Left"), where there will be little of the Doctor but a lot of Amy. It's possible more stuff was shot with young Amelia which will be incorporated into a later episode, and those scenes will be set in the mid-90s
Katy Butterfly
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by jim863:
“My guess is Amy missed the daleks because she was in the same prison as Zero and is being followed around by the crack which is somehow causing all the time dilation and anachronisms..

Unless everyone else has forgotten the daleks too..

Did the eye-in-the-sky aliens think that they'd got Zero or could it be her?”

Well, her full name has some interesting anagrams...

Spoiler
Escaped Jail Domain
Escaped Main Jail, So?
O, Escaped Main Jails


That would tie in with your theory, jim!
neel
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by Katy Butterfly:
“Well, her full name has some interesting anagrams...

Spoiler
Escaped Jail Domain
Escaped Main Jail, So?
O, Escaped Main Jails


That would tie in with your theory, jim!”

I'm convinced Amy could be prisoner zero. The one in episode 1 was just a diversion.
KnowAll27
18-04-2010
Following on from my earlier post about Leadworth and dates, I read on an online encyclopedia that may or may be completely accurate that we'll meet Aunt Sharon (Amelia's guardian), so it is possible we'll see young Amelia in a mid-90s Leadworth.
bunnyds
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“While the laptops and camera phones certainly suggest it's circa 2010, supposedly (not checked it myself) all the Cars have registration numbers from the 1990's.



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Some do, but there are several younger cars, two with a visible 2005 reg. Saw a blog saying that all the cars had 1990s reg. plates which he served to illustrate with a pic of one of the 2005 cars - plonker!
tysonstorm
18-04-2010
http://www.sylvestermccoy.com/newdoctorwho/

This site may provide some info.
Magpie2467
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by Oceanic-815:
“this was odd remember way back in The Next Doctor, the Doctor said it was odd that nobody remembered the giant cyberman thing too maybe the two are linked”

To be fair, I think many of us would like to forget the giant cyberman thing... decent episode until the giant cyberman thing appeared...
KnowAll27
18-04-2010
What giant cyberman thing?
Bob Paisley
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by Syn22:
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The Daleks, using their Oblivium technology, open up a dimensional rift and go through. The TARDIS, during 10's chaotic regeneration, detects this danger and follows. The TARDIS crashes in this new universe, due to lack of power, and regenerates. The TARDIS changes to adopt to the new Universe, ultimately however, the TARDIS scars its new Universe by creating cracks in reality.
”

Is this an actual spoiler (i.e. you have heard this is what's going to happen) or this is just speculation on your part (which means, of course, it's not really a spoiler then is it).
Abomination
18-04-2010
Originally Posted by roland rat:
“If the new daleks have destroyed the old daleks, and gone back in time

next bit in spoiler


Spoiler

The daleks go back home to Skaro, destroy all the daleks, and davros, and rebuild the dalek empire, so there fore the time war never took place, so now the time lord exsist once more, all of this cause the cracks in time, as all that has happend was not meant to happen

This might explain why amy dosnt remember the daleks, at the end of time never happened
”

I like this theory a lot for some reason. Its like the weeping angels- they feed on the potential energy which the victims would have used up in life. If the Time War never happened then all that energy could be disrupting time itself and thus causing the cracks.....

....these cracks seem somewhat linked to Amy, seemingly following her around. Maybe she had a very different life in an alternate timeline which is undone by the daleks changing the universe and that is why the cracks converge on places that she is. She could in fact be Prisoner Zero somehow, but I don't know, so I shall stop these ramblings....
blimpyboy
19-04-2010
Seems to me that the lateness of the doctor and all the time problems may be linked to the last series.

I may be barking up the wrong tree here but was it ever explained what had accelerated the Oods evolution in TEOT?

And weren't they prophesising "Too late, too late, always too late" or something like that?

Any thoughts anyone?
Syn22
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by Bob Paisley:
“Is this an actual spoiler (i.e. you have heard this is what's going to happen) or this is just speculation on your part (which means, of course, it's not really a spoiler then is it).”

It's just a theory. I was unsure of board etiquette when I posted it, so covered it just incase.
mousy
19-04-2010
as above

Its because its not 2010 in leadworth...see rory's badge

the clock in the tardis is wrong

has he even asked amy what year it was when he picked her up?
mousy
19-04-2010
I also think, if there is more to amy then why the whole (frankly boring) "should be at my wedding tomorrow" story.
Sure it could be a red herring but as red herrings go its pretty pointless
Bad_titan
19-04-2010
If Leadworth is a fake village in a bubble, then perhaps it could be a trap for the Doctor. Now that he's picked up Amy, she's moving around time and space, spreading the crack like an infection.


ADDS: ..... steady.
Rogue_star
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by Bad_titan:
“If Leadworth is a fake village in a bubble, then perhaps it could be a trap for the Doctor. Now that he's picked up Amy, she's moving around time and space, spreading the crack like an infection.


ADDS: ..... steady.”

like this - maybe its not the crack hes spreading round the universe but the bubble itself - and if so what is the implication for the Daleks - how far could they have gone if they are contained within the bubble???
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