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Mandy Smith

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What on earth was she doing by sending out that poor little hard done by me story in the Daily Mail yesterday about herself as a wild child and Bill Wyman? It's very old news.

Mandy Smith went on to marry other rich and famous men, failed at that and then she suddenly found God. So what? Has she run out of money?

I hate it when has beens come back to try and get in the public eye again.
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    muddipawsmuddipaws Posts: 3,300
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    She has not aged well by the looks of things
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    The PrumeisterThe Prumeister Posts: 22,398
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    Amazes me that Bill Wyman was never prosecuted for sleeping with a 13 year old. Vile old man.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,341
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    Amazes me that Bill Wyman was never prosecuted for sleeping with a 13 year old. Vile old man.

    Because it seems being a famous multimillionaire makes you immune from the rules the rest of society have to abide by. Her mother should have been prosecuted for allowing it to go on with her consent.
    Old Bill actually makes Ronnie Woods taste in women to seem a bit on the old side.
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    LittleChickenLittleChicken Posts: 5,916
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    If Wyman should have been prosecuted, so should Mandy's mother, as Mandy went out with Wyman with her full consent.

    If this was the 18th century, she'd have been termed a 'procuress'. Dreadful woman. :mad:
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    Dancing GirlDancing Girl Posts: 8,209
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    Unbelievable but sadly true that a mother would basically sell her daughter to a famous star for fame and money. Mandy should never have had a relationship with anyone at 14. Why would a man in his 40s be hanging around a 14 year old if it was not for sex? Was the mother just stupid? Mind you what is even more shocking are the mothers who were happy to have Michael Jackson sleep with their very young children!! It seems if you are a millionaire you can do exactly as you want, regardless of the law.
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    Dancing GirlDancing Girl Posts: 8,209
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    Amazes me that Bill Wyman was never prosecuted for sleeping with a 13 year old. Vile old man.

    Apparently neither Mandy or her mother would press charges against Bill Wyman when questioned by police. I guess Mandy always denied it was a sexual relationship and he married her at the age of 18!! Mind you Elvis had a sexual relationship with Pricella at the age of 14 (although it was denied for years). Pricella left Germany and her parents, her Dad was in the US Military and stationed in Germany and went to live with Elvis at that age.
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    LittleChickenLittleChicken Posts: 5,916
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    Unbelievable but sadly true that a mother would basically sell her daughter to a famous star for fame and money. Mandy should never have had a relationship with anyone at 14. Why would a man in his 40s be hanging around a 14 year old if it was not for sex? Was the mother just stupid? Mind you what is even more shocking are the mothers who were happy to have Michael Jackson sleep with their very young children!! It seems if you are a millionaire you can do exactly as you want, regardless of the law.

    See my post ^ DG. :)

    Mandy's mum let her go out with Wyman and she gave her full consent to the relationship.
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    LittleChickenLittleChicken Posts: 5,916
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    Mr Giggles wrote: »

    Good luck to her.

    She seems to have finally found peace of mind and a faith that she's devoted to.
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    RussellIanRussellIan Posts: 12,034
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    She did a few nice songs once.
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    SloopySloopy Posts: 65,209
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    Very old news......but the overall impression of the individuals involved remains the same.

    A man in his 40s pursuing a girl of 14 is wrong on every single level, no matter what excuses were thrown at it, i.e. she looked 'older' than her years, he was a multi-millionaire, her mother allowed it, etc......

    It says an awful lot about her mother's morals, in that she allowed this to continue with her blessing, all for the sake of fame and riches.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,341
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    Sloopy wrote: »
    Very old news......but the overall impression of the individuals involved remains the same.

    A man in his 40s pursuing a girl of 14 is wrong on every single level, no matter what excuses were thrown at it, i.e. she looked 'older' than her years, he was a multi-millionaire, her mother allowed it, etc......

    It says an awful lot about her mother's morals, in that she allowed this to continue with her blessing, all for the sake of fame and riches.

    Let's not forget that the mother was knocking off Bill Wymans son at the same time :rolleyes:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 10,287
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    muddipaws wrote: »
    She has not aged well by the looks of things

    She looks good to me and I'm glad she regrets her past and isn't advocating it. She seems to have gotten her life in some sort of order now, so good luck to her. I always thought that illness she went down with was because of her trying to be a grown up when she was only 13, it was all too much for her. Other young girls should take note. At 13, you're a child still, not a young woman.

    I agree with most of the other sentiments on here about Wyman and Mandy's mother.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Sloopy wrote: »
    Very old news......but the overall impression of the individuals involved remains the same.

    A man in his 40s pursuing a girl of 14 is wrong on every single level, no matter what excuses were thrown at it, i.e. she looked 'older' than her years, he was a multi-millionaire, her mother allowed it, etc......

    It says an awful lot about her mother's morals, in that she allowed this to continue with her blessing, all for the sake of fame and riches.

    The law says the age of consent is 16. So surely it doesn't matter whether the mother agrees or not, it would be a criminal matter not a civil matter.
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    LittleChickenLittleChicken Posts: 5,916
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    ftv wrote: »
    The law says the age of consent is 16. So surely it doesn't matter whether the mother agrees or not, it would be a criminal matter not a civil matter.

    But she wasn't 16, she was 14, well below the age of consent.

    Mandy wasn't only abused by Wyman, her mother was complicit in the abuse, as she virtually sanctioned it by her consent.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    But she wasn't 16, she was 14, well below the age of consent.

    Mandy wasn't only abused by Wyman, her mother was complicit in the abuse, as she virtually sanctioned it by her consent.

    That's my point, sorry if I expressed it badly. She was 14 at the time so it would be irrelevant whether her mother approved or not, a criminal offence had been committed (and would have to be proved in court of course).It may be the police took the view if it came to court both parties would deny it and as there were no witnesses or forensic evidence it would be virtually impossible to prove.
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    Scarlet O'HaraScarlet O'Hara Posts: 6,933
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    I just don't get it. Gary Glitter is treated as a pariah and pervert. Bill Wyman is considered rock royalty and is as rich as Midas. Just because Wyman's 'little girl' didn't look like a little girl, whereas Glitter most definitely went for children, doesn't make it any less illegal.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 968
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    I just don't get it. Gary Glitter is treated as a pariah and pervert. Bill Wyman is considered rock royalty and is as rich as Midas. Just because Wyman's 'little girl' didn't look like a little girl, whereas Glitter most definitely went for children, doesn't make it any less illegal.

    There is no difference as far as I am concerned. Bill Wyman and Elvis Presley is as much of a sexual predator and pervert as Gary Glitter and all should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law, as should Mandy's mother, who is probably the most vile of the lot of them, handing her 14 year old daughter, on a plate.
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    LittleChickenLittleChicken Posts: 5,916
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    There is no difference as far as I am concerned. Bill Wyman and Elvis Presley is as much of a sexual predator and pervert as Gary Glitter and all should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law, as should Mandy's mother, who is probably the most vile of the lot of them, handing her 14 year old daughter, on a plate.

    Agreed, especially about Mandy's mother.

    She should have been protecting her daughter, not hawking her round to old men in an attempt to make her famous.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 107
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    Bill Wyman is a sex offender if he had sex with a 14 year old, it annoys me that he gets so much respect in the media, it's like they just want to ignore what he's done in the past. Mandy Smith has had a lot of troubles in her life and Bill Wyman is responsible for a lot of it.
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    beanzmeanzbeanzmeanz Posts: 3,094
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    I think this is taking recycling a tad too far.
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    QwertyGirl1771QwertyGirl1771 Posts: 4,472
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    I am about the same age as Mandy and I remember the furore the story caused when it all came out. I also have a 13 year old daughter. My daughter is (thankfully) still child-like (I always say there's plenty of time ahead for her to grow and become an adult) and, though she knows about the birds and bees, she's still quite innocent. I would be totally mortified and heart-broken if a man like Wyman approached her. But I could see Mandys point. I didn't and don't have a father-figure (got abused by 'father' for years), but there was an elderly man who took a shine to me when I was around my daughters age. He lived 3 doors away from me. He would buy me things, like bags and purses, and he took me out a few times to Disney On Ice. He was a man in his 60s, and I never, ever sensed anything sinister about him. To me, he was a kind man who liked me like a daughter (I had 3 brothers at the time and he never even spoke to them). Now-a-days, I think his behaviour would be considered indecent and wrong. I would be mortified if some man like him took a shine to my daughter. But I suppose me and Hubby having a loving family home life will help her never to seek solace in anyone like Wyman or someone like my elderly friend. He sadly passed away over 10 years ago, but I always have fond memories of him. May he R.I.P.

    (and please don't think I'm being 'ageist'. My Hubby is 29 years older than me)
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    ShrikeShrike Posts: 16,613
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    As I recall it Mandy was seen as a "wild child" and so recieved much of the blame herself. I'd like to think these days that wouldn't be the case.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 10,287
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    I just don't get it. Gary Glitter is treated as a pariah and pervert. Bill Wyman is considered rock royalty and is as rich as Midas. Just because Wyman's 'little girl' didn't look like a little girl, whereas Glitter most definitely went for children, doesn't make it any less illegal.

    You have a very good point and I think you've hit all nails on all heads! Didn't Glitter have porn on his computer though of kids as young as two? I think that's probably what's made a lot of people's stomachs churn.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 17,021
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    It was all very dodgy at the time. If it happened now, Wyman would likely be on the Sex Offenders register and the reporting of the story would be different. It doesn't matter what Mandy's behaviour was like; she was underage.
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