Do they close threads down purely on the basis of people disagreeing with others in a manner that might suggest they have a lesser grasp of language then? Sounds a bit like you're advocating a Police State to me

No, but then this-


-is a load of crap innit?

Boring? Well, I can see what you mean there. For some reason I just seem so disconnected and uninterested this season. I thought that Steven Moffat was the best writer of the previous seasons and I think Matt Smith is a really good actor, and yet ..

There's just something missing.

The first two stories were just not vintage Moffat and Matt's Doctor just leaves me cold.

And as for this Dalek story, no sorry, that was just relentless speed, no change of pace to build up any tension or to make the characters 3-dimentional and with some very dubious short-cuts to fit everything that needed to be fitted in to the 45 minutes (sorry, just how did the Spitfires get into space? Why the pilots so non-plussed about it? How did they communicate with the Dalek ship and the Tardis?).

Given the amount of story to get through and the budget constraints (and my assumption that 1 2-part story is cheaper to make than 2 1-part stories), I would have thought that this story could have been told at a reasonable pace over 2 episodes with the reveal of Daleks 2.0 as the cliffhanger.

Oh well, perhaps the return of River Song and the Weeping Angels (that sounds like a good name for a 80s Pop Group) over 2 episodes from next Saturday may get me back on-side.

Or a sign that the DS moderators don't tolerate abusive or "non-constructive" posts.

I don't get how it can be boring when absolutely everything was new - whole new Doctor, companion, TARDIS, theme tune, titles, visual style, head writer, writing style, tone, story arc, I could go on...

Wouldn't it be a million times more boring if everything was as your remembered from last year? A surprising number of people seem to believe the series would remain forever perfect if David Tennant, Catherine Tate and RTD stayed with the show for all eternity.

Totally disagree. Doctor Who thrives on re-invention. Always has and always will. Change isn't the problem - its just a question of whether the change has been well thought out and is working.

Peter Davison taking over from Tom Baker (with all the new companions and slightly more adult stories) really worked and was a good change.

Colin Baker as the Doctor with his new outfit and more violent stories - not a good change.

Don't even get me started on McCoy!

I'm just getting a bit (if I am honest) bored that those of us sticking our heads up to say we aren't currently happy with the new series are largely being accused of not being able to cope with change and that is completely untrue and unfair.

Episode 2 couldve been so much more but it wasnt and i have found my eyes wandering around the room a bit even the dalek episode, such a shame

So what are people views on the new series?

I personally think that the first episode was amazing, but the last two episodeshave just been dire, especially VOTD. It was just such a crap story, there was no sense of danger.

I love Amy as an assistant and i think Karen is a very funny actress, I am warming to here more and more, certainly better then Martha and Rose but not Donna!

Initially I really liked Matt Smiths portrayal of the doctor but it is just stoo similar to David Tennant. I sometimes shut my eyes and I actually think it is David on the screen. A new doctor should take a completely new approach. I think I liked him at first because I thought he was just carrying on some of the old doctors traits whilst he regenerated but it had carried on to the last episodes, especially VOTD.

I also don't like the blatant clues that they are giving as to where this series is going i.e 'the crack'. It was much better when it was usbtle and then at the end everything became apparent, this is jsu too obvious for my liking.

Saying all of this, I really like the feel of the new series, it has a more classical and old fashioned feel about it which is good.

The theme tune etc. is trivial stuff really, there were always going to be people who loved it and people who didnt, everyone will eventually adjust too it, people are just making an unecessary fuss about something stupid.

Next weeks episode looks amazing, I prefer episodes without much CGI and the weeping angels are one of my favourite vilains, plus river songs back yay!!!

What are your thoughts....

I gotta admit I'm loving it, but to be fair I can't get enough Who.

I loved the RTD era also (I'm just off to hide from the abuse that will now come my way ) and have enjoyed all of the new stuff but I still prefer the classic series.

I'm the same. Dunno why you'd expect to be flamed for RTD love though. I loved it too, as did many others.

But the new series is shaping up brilliantly thus far innit?

Eh? The closest Smith has been to Tennant's portrayal was in the first episode, which is the one you said you liked the most.

I wasn't saying that everyone who doesn't like Smith is immune to change, far from it. What I'm saying is that there's a difference between the show being boring and the show being different to what you're used to. I admit that when we are say, 3 or 4 more episodes in, it will be fair enough to say the show has become boring if that's your opinion and I will respect it. My point was that right now we have seen just 3 episodes, and I don't see how you can become bored with something that is so new, fresh and explorable. Not your cup of tea, that's fine, but "boring" at such an early stage, I think is hard to justify.

I brought the RTD era into it as an example - it would be easy to dismiss this series as boring if it had the same cast and crew we were used to, because we'd have a point of reference and something to compare it with. But we don't have that reference point so IMO it's hard to get to the point of being bored just yet. Some people don't seem to agree with me on this though, to the point where you'd think the past production team could do no wrong and would not have ever become boring - but not all of you, I certainly wasn't speaking on your behalf.

I hope that makes things clearer. Turned into a bit of an essay.

Gaaaaaaaahhhh!

Why do I keep reading this? Is no-one actually watching the show? They must be sat dreaming of David froopin' Tennant all the way through!

Why am I replying to this? I'm an idiot for getting involved and annoyed!

l liked Victory of the Daleks, I thought it was a great story. I like that the more the Doctor sees the Daleks the more Angry he gets, because they keep coming back, yet the Doctor always wins.

It also explores more about the cracks in the wall because that is the definite theme that is emerging from the series. It'll also be interesting to see why Amy doesn't remember the Daleks, who is she? why doesn't she remember? So there's plenty to keep watching for.

I think some people are already looking at the RTD era through rose-tinted spectacles and conveniently forgetting some of the *ahem* less brilliant moments e.g. The whole Doctor's Daughter conceit. Utter drivel. VoTD was 100% better than TDD.

I like Matt, I like Karen. I like their characters. I loved The Eleventh Hour and The Beast Below. Victory of the Daleks felt like a set up for a future episode to me, a bit like The Long Game in Series 1.

Maybe Moffat is being clever and the crack won't have any bearing on the story arc

Next week we have River Song and Weeping Angels - just think, in series 1, we got Slitheen in episode 4

wow just my opinion, chill out, how can you get angry over someone elses opinions?? Very immature - grow up!

Who are you replying to? You did ask for people's thoughts!

It is an inevitability though don't you think that comparisons will be drawn between Matt Smith and David Tennant? Naturally, Smith is a very different Doctor to Tennant and while most of us can see that Smith is good for Doctor Who I think a lot of us are still in "Tennant mode" and find it hard to get used to him.

Ah, he doesn't though, does he?

I think this series has been mostly brilliant so far. Absolutely adored The Eleventh Hour (10/10), quite liked The Beast Below (7/10) and loved Victory of the Daleks (8/10). Loving Matt and Karen and I find this crack arc to be really quite creepy and foreboding. And for the record, I thought the Daleks were on top form last night - absolutely ruthless and more dangerous than ever!

I don't think that is what the OP is saying though. They seem to think that Matt Smith is too much like Tennant. Moffat said that that was deliberate in the 11th Hour episode but I think Matt Smith is becoming less and less like Tennant now.

I would agree but in VOTD I was still drawing the comparisons, so i'll have to watch again, to see if the "tennantisms" are still there in Smith. That said, I think you're right Smith is becoming his own Doctor now.

I agree with the OP but yet still have faith that it 'must' get better...


...surely?


Please!!

Not remotely boring.

Series 2 (New Earth, Tooth and Claw, Fear Her and the last ten minutes of Doomsday), now that was boring!

I was not sure about the last two episodes until I saw the Sunday repeats. I enjoyed them much better after watching them the 2nd time. Not sure why but there you are.