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how could Amy identify Bracewell's accent as Paisley...
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Vabosity
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“I was amused to see pumps/trainers/converses called daps by DT in the Sontaran episode. I bet a Welshman wrote it.”

Almost Right. The Sontaran two-parter was written by Helen Raynor, a Welsh woman.
Tumpy
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by Vabosity:
“Almost Right. The Sontaran two-parter was written by Helen Raynor, a Welsh woman.”

Ah knew it had to be someone Welsh!
Cmwatt
19-04-2010
There is no way you can identify a "Paisley" accent as we range from posh Paisley (David Tennant) to Rab C Nesbitts cousins!!

At 5:48 on iplayer when Churchill is telling them about Bracewall, Amy is reading some documents about the Ironsides and first comments that he is Scottish. She obviously read here that he was from Paisley.

BTW my mum says there def was a wee post office near the Abbey, (not sure if still there, recent government cut backs!) so very possibly Ash trees in the early 20th century.
Unigal07
19-04-2010
I've only lived in the Newcastle area for 5 years but can easily tell the difference between "geordie", "mackem" and "smoggie". You don't have to live there all your life to recognise accents.
Magpie2467
19-04-2010
Rose Tyler: "If you're an alien, how come you sound like you're from the north?"

The Doctor: "How could you possibly identify a northern accent if you haven't been there yourself?"
Paisley Bud
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by Cmwatt:
“There is no way you can identify a "Paisley" accent as we range from posh Paisley (David Tennant) to Rab C Nesbitts cousins!!

At 5:48 on iplayer when Churchill is telling them about Bracewall, Amy is reading some documents about the Ironsides and first comments that he is Scottish. She obviously read here that he was from Paisley.

BTW my mum says there def was a wee post office near the Abbey, (not sure if still there, recent government cut backs!) so very possibly Ash trees in the early 20th century.”

The only one I can think of is on Silk Street not too far from the Abbey. It's still there and also houses a subway takeaway.
DavetheScot
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by musicdude:
“I agree. I wouldn't know what Paisley accent is. To me, a scottish accent is just a scottish. Not the case of not having "half a brain"”

There's lots of different Scottish accents.
DavetheScot
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by Magpie2467:
“Rose Tyler: "If you're an alien, how come you sound like you're from the north?"

The Doctor: "How could you possibly identify a northern accent if you haven't been there yourself?"”

Lots of planets have a Scotland
piper4
20-04-2010
I grew up 14 miles from Paisley and moved to England in 1988 when my daughter was 8 she lost her accent completely whereas her brother 4 years older at the time has a strong Scottish accent like mine.

I never gave it a thought when Amy called him Paisley I just thought she picked a place name for him as a Scot.

piper
Craig //
20-04-2010
I recently went to Blackpool and one of my cousins mates is from Scotland. They moved there a few years ago. She has a kid who was born in Blackpool but his accent is a proper strong Scottish one. I guess it all depends on who's around you.
J_Peasmould
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by itsabrahma:
“fair comment. I'm perhaps a little sensitive to this specific angle, as I reckoned it implausible that Amy would retain her Scots accent after more than a decade away from the hameland. (Less plausible than cracks in time-space continuum, giant eyes in the sky, star-whales, Dalek soldiers, etc etc!)”

A friend of mine originally came here from the States over a decade ago and still speaks with an American accent!
lach doch mal
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by J_Peasmould:
“A friend of mine originally came here from the States over a decade ago and still speaks with an American accent!”

It's more difficult to lose your accent when you are an adult, has something to do with your early perceptual abilities (different sounds in different languages). Kids are lucky, if they start early enough they can take on any accent and learn any language to perfection.
Dave-H
20-04-2010
Correct me if I'm wrong, I should watch it again to check, but didn't Amy use the word "Scotch" to describe Bracewell?
I was surprised to hear that, as although I'm English, I always thought that the one term you don't use to describe someone from Scotland is "Scotch"!
"Scotch" is a drink, people from Scotland are "Scots" or "Scottish".
Amy may actually have said "Scottish", but it sounded like "Scotch" to me at the time!
Dai13371
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by Vabosity:
“Is a Jack accent a Swansea accent? Excuse my ignorance, but all Welsh accents sound the same to me, except on the north coast where the locals seem to speak like Scousers.

Returning to Amy's Scottish accent, although it's feasible that she could have retained it since the age of seven, I believe it may be another symptom of whatever temporal disturbance is happening in Leadworth.”

Yep, people from Swansea are Jacks.
leithlad
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by musicdude:
“I agree. I wouldn't know what Paisley accent is. To me, a scottish accent is just a scottish. Not the case of not having "half a brain"”

If you think there is only one all encompassing Scottish accent then half a brain is too generous,its like me saying all English accents sound the same (from Edinburgh) when they patently dont.
lach doch mal
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by leithlad:
“If you think there is only one all encompassing Scottish accent then half a brain is too generous,its like me saying all English accents sound the same (from Edinburgh) when they patently dont.”

That's a bit harsh IMO. Some people are not very good at spotting different accents, whether they are English, Welsh or Scottish accents. For instance, I assume that people from the north of England would not be very good at distinguishing all the different Hampshire accents, and vice versa. Some people might not have considered that there are different Scottish accents, it doesn't mean that they are intellectually challenged.
Korrie
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by itsabrahma:
“as I reckoned it implausible that Amy would retain her Scots accent after more than a decade away from the hameland.”

Didnt the Dr make some sort of comment at the end of TEH about her retaining her accent because she wanted to be different...
Katy Butterfly
20-04-2010
Originally Posted by Korrie:
“Didnt the Dr make some sort of comment at the end of TEH about her retaining her accent because she wanted to be different...”

Yep!

The Doctor: Scottish girl in an English village, and you've still got that accent? Yeah, you're coming!
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