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Do we dissect every episode too much?
daveyboy7472
19-04-2010
Whilst reading several threads on Victory Of The Daleks over the weekend, it appeared some people were delving just a little bit too deeply into why they didn't like it too much. I've seen people getting argumentative over the tiniest aspects of an episode and I wonder if people forget it is just a show at the end of a day. albeit a very good one.

I totally agree people are entitled to their opinions, that's what discussing topics are all about but do we need to analyse every single little feature of an episode? Shouldn't we just enjoy an episode for what it is? Criticise it, yes, when it needs to be criticised but do we spoil our own enjoyment of the show when we look into things too deeply?
jord8511
19-04-2010
YES YES YES

We certianly do! I really think its stupid, its a tv show.
majoostaroosta
19-04-2010
Yes!It's a tv show about a man who's approx 1,000 years old who travels through space and time in a blue police box that is bigger on the inside.........and people question certain elements of each story.........What's that all about?

Just enjoy the fact we have our favourite show back on!
thatsnotmylife
19-04-2010
I agree! After all, at it's heart it's a show about a sometimes bumbling, loveable alien who travels around space and time in an old police box picking up earth girls - theres little space for realism and a lot of space for fun and escapism!
Dr. Linus
19-04-2010
Yes indeed - there are some people who've abandoned the whole episode because they weren't keen on the design of the new Daleks... does it really matter?
SHAFT
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by jord8511:
“YES YES YES

We certianly do! I really think its stupid, its a tv show.”

Totally agree (even though I have been guilty of it myself!)
Adam Kelleher
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by majoostaroosta:
“Yes!It's a tv show about a man who's approx 1,000 years old who travels through space and time in a blue police box that is bigger on the inside.........and people question certain elements of each story.........What's that all about?
”

What that's all about is that people suspend disbelief re certain elements of the show, for example what you have quoted, but expect each story to make sense within accepted parameters and to be consistent. Surely that's not too difficult a concept to grasp?
doctorellis
19-04-2010
yes deffinately. im on here a second afterwards and it starts straight away.

although its fun to look into the episode....sometimes we go a bit far!

hahaha oh well.
lukestanton91
19-04-2010
Put it this way

I think criticism of 'Victory Of The Daleks' has been OTT.

I said after the episode that i thought it was good. After watching it again i think it's very good. It's a good fun episode and for people to say ''it's the worst episode of new Doctor Who ever'' is ridiculous.
bigalt
19-04-2010
A big FAT Yes.

After all it is only a tv programme.

Sit back and enjoy.
daveyboy7472
19-04-2010
Yes, I think I've been guilty of overanalysing it myself sometimes over the years! I try and find a positive out of every episode such as The Beast Below. Some episodes such as Love and Monsters are more difficult but there are parts of the episode I did enjoy. Saturday's episode was so refreshingly Who it was unbelievable, I found it a really good episode but then people started moaning about the new Daleks and that's when I began to wonder if people really were so angry about it they forgot to enjoy the story at all.
CD93
19-04-2010
Hell to the YES. It's TV. It's Doctor Who. It's fun, enjoy it!
SpringheelJack
19-04-2010
A fan writes, in response: can we clarify the question?

"Do we..." - by that I assume you are referring to the fans? Or those who post here? Or members of other forums? Or several example forums? Or are you referring to the whole viewing public? Or the small vocal minority that nit-picks everything?


"...dissect every episode..." - What do you mean by this? The way the unspecified "we" (see my nit-picking above) critically analyse the episode? And which parts? The story, the narrative, the dialogue, the design, the music, the levels of the music, the performances, the editing, the use of colour, the production team? Or how we cross-reference it with new Who continuity? Or Old Who continuity? Or both? Or Moffat era writing with RTD era writing? Or Collison production with Simpson production? Or even JNT production?


"...too much?" - By how much is 'too much'? I don't yet know how long the piece of string is so without the yard-stick being properly defined, we cannot know where the limit is.


I look forward to you answering every question in as much detail as possible, so I can respond properly and fully and as critically as possible.

Kind regards,
One Of The Show's Biggest Fans.

majoostaroosta
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by Adam Kelleher:
“What that's all about is that people suspend disbelief re certain elements of the show, for example what you have quoted, but expect each story to make sense within accepted parameters and to be consistent. Surely that's not too difficult a concept to grasp?”

Oooooh-get you with your condescending remark!Try reading post #10 and not taking the show all too seriously and questioning every scientific/logical anomaly that may crop up and just enjoy the show.
tingramretro
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by SpringheelJack:
“A fan writes, in response: can we clarify the question?

"Do we..." - by that I assume you are referring to the fans? Or those who post here? Or members of other forums? Or several example forums? Or are you referring to the whole viewing public? Or the small vocal minority that nit-picks everything?


"...dissect every episode..." - What do you mean by this? The way the unspecified "we" (see my nit-picking above) critically analyse the episode? And which parts? The story, the narrative, the dialogue, the design, the music, the levels of the music, the performances, the editing, the use of colour, the production team? Or how we cross-reference it with new Who continuity? Or Old Who continuity? Or both? Or Moffat era writing with RTD era writing? Or Collison production with Simpson production? Or even JNT production?


"...too much?" - By how much is 'too much'? I don't yet know how long the piece of string is so without the yard-stick being properly defined, we cannot know where the limit is.


I look forward to you answering every question in as much detail as possible, so I can respond properly and fully and as critically as possible.

Kind regards,
One Of The Show's Biggest Fans.

”

May I respectfully point out that you cannot have a yardstick made out of string? A yardstick needs a certain amount of rigidity in order to remain accurate. A string one would be no good at all.
daveyboy7472
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by SpringheelJack:
“A fan writes, in response: can we clarify the question?

"Do we..." - by that I assume you are referring to the fans? Or those who post here? Or members of other forums? Or several example forums? Or are you referring to the whole viewing public? Or the small vocal minority that nit-picks everything?


"...dissect every episode..." - What do you mean by this? The way the unspecified "we" (see my nit-picking above) critically analyse the episode? And which parts? The story, the narrative, the dialogue, the design, the music, the levels of the music, the performances, the editing, the use of colour, the production team? Or how we cross-reference it with new Who continuity? Or Old Who continuity? Or both? Or Moffat era writing with RTD era writing? Or Collison production with Simpson production? Or even JNT production?


"...too much?" - By how much is 'too much'? I don't yet know how long the piece of string is so without the yard-stick being properly defined, we cannot know where the limit is.


I look forward to you answering every question in as much detail as possible, so I can respond properly and fully and as critically as possible.

Kind regards,
One Of The Show's Biggest Fans.

”

Okay, you've asked a lot of questions, I'll try my best to answer it but I think I can answer most of them by saying I was totally generalising about absolutely everything. Who I was referring to, yes, it was mainly some people on here but I've seen other websites just the same. I also made it clear that some people do go into EVERY single aspect of the show including all the things you mentioned. I was also mainly referring to the New series but people do overanalyse the old stuff as well. As by how much? Well, if you'd read some of the other threads you'd get a pretty damn good idea of what I mean.
SpringheelJack
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“May I respectfully point out that you cannot have a yardstick made out of string? A yardstick needs a certain amount of rigidity in order to remain accurate. A string one would be no good at all.”



You may. I would suggest had the question not been so vague and unspecific to begin with, such an error would not have occured.
daveyboy7472
19-04-2010
Originally Posted by SpringheelJack:
“

You may. I would suggest had the question not been so vague and unspecific to begin with, such an error would not have occured.”

Can I also say that everyone else who has replied so far has got the gist of my first post, so maybe it isn't as vague as you think......
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