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freesat recorder recomendation
I'm sorry if this seems like a really basic question, but can anyone suggest which freesat recorder I should buy.
All the talk on the forum seems to be about the Humax FOXSAT-HDR (I'd probably go for the 500GB drive) and not much else. I already own a Freeview 9200 that I have been happy with so I'm used to hearing lots about Humax bugs) I have two questions, is there a better machine out there, and Is there an next gen amchine on it's way, if yes when is it due. I have seen mention of next gen mockups but can't find much more about it. Thanks for any help provided. |
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Is there an next gen amchine on it's way, if yes when is it due.
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Get the Panasonic DMR-B750. Knocks spots off the Humax, better quality SD and HD pictures, more reliable and a Blu-Ray recorder to boot. No contest!!
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Get the Panasonic DMR-B750. Knocks spots off the Humax, better quality SD and HD pictures, more reliable and a Blu-Ray recorder to boot. No contest!!
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Why would you want to spend double the money for a box that doesn't even buffer live TV? or doesn't let you search for programmes within the EPG? or still doesn't have iplayer?
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Because of the better quality pictures you get from out of your television from the Panasonic unit which is what you should be looking at, not the number of bells & whistles the recorder has that are in most cases rarely used.
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Also, as far as price is concerned it would cost just as much to purchase the Humax and a decent blu-ray player (never mind the blu-ray recording facility you get with the Panasonic) than to purchase the DMR-BS750.
As far as price is concerned archiving to BD-R is prohibitively expensive. Archiving to BD-RE even more so. Archiving via usb devices like external Hdd is comparatively cheap.If you prefer the Panasonic BD recorder that's your prerogative, I'm just offering a different view that I hope is more helpful to the OP than just stating in closing.. Quote:
No contest!!
when clearly there are other aspects to be considered.
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All the talk on the forum seems to be about the Humax FOXSAT-HDR (I'd probably go for the 500GB drive) and not much else.
http://www.humaxdigital.com/global/p...foxsat-hdr.asp |
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I think you've confused it with the Panasonic specs. The Humax only has a 320GB hard drive as standard.
http://www.humaxdigital.com/global/p...foxsat-hdr.asp http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product...=10087&cat=stb |
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Using the Scaler from the TV in many cases will give a better picture without the extra cost.
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Which is of course something my Foxsat does NOT allow me to do! (Because it fails to send the correct aspect ratios down the HDMI link for 576i programmes I either have to constantly switch mode on the TV or put up with the poor HDR scaler, the latter being the simpler option especially where the wife and kids are concerned.)
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Which is of course something my Foxsat does NOT allow me to do! (Because it fails to send the correct aspect ratios down the HDMI link for 576i programmes I either have to constantly switch mode on the TV or put up with the poor HDR scaler, the latter being the simpler option especially where the wife and kids are concerned.)
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I rest my case, you get a better quality picture from the Panasonic than from the Humax with its poor HDR scaler. If you pay up to £1000 for a decent television why put up with an inferior picture? It all depends on what sort of value you put on picture quality.
Dead easy to swap the hard drive for a 1TB drive. Unlimited amount of archive storage using usb, a 1TB drive costs about £60.00, work out how much that's going to cost you in BD blanks. Can now play back external video from USB including HD camcorder footage Capability of viewing 3rd channels while recording two Can record BBC HD and ITV HD without encryption Can time shift some third channels while recording two (it's actually recording 3 channels at the same time) Usable with only one lnb connection with a surprising degree of two recording and third viewing options. Anyone on a communal system with only 1 lnb available would be mad to buy a Panny. You made wild claims about the reliability of the Panny vs the hdr. Mine has been flawless since NOv 2008. Panasonic have a woefull record in making pvrs. They made a twin tuner freeview pvr, it was an absolute disaster. They never got it to work reliably and finally took it off the market. Oh and you get iplayer, how long is it going to take Panasonic to provide it they have not yet got round to providing iplayer for their first generation TV's |
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Thank you all for your advice. I had considered the Panasonic because it has the blue ray recorder (meaning I could ditch both my humax Freeview recorder and my sony DVD/HDD) but it would have to be a LOT cheaper for me to do that.
I think I will stick to my prefered option of the Humax, maybe going for the smaller drive and upgrading to the 1TB drive mentioned above. Do you have to be careful about type and make of drive you select, i know there were ones to go for and ones to avoid when I upgraded my Humax freeview. |
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Foxsat HDR with 500 GB available here direct from Humax:-
http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product...=10087&cat=stb @redrob2, there's another thread on here about that. Highly recommended you go for an external hard drive option rather than internal if upgrading as it takes the load off the internal PSU. WD PVR specific drives are the most used such as http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=615 Don't go over 1TB as there are real problems getting larger drives to work. |
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The Panny is very expensive. I saw one just as they were released and thought they were a nice bit of kit. As for the picture being better, well I am biased as I think the whole HD thing is a lot of emperors new clothes. I have seen many tellies with HD pictures and haven’t really been able to tell (or care) if it is any better.
The most important thing about a PVR is the recording function (to me anyway) and I am pleased I didn’t waste my money on the Panny as it is pretty shocking it is missing a basic feature like live buffering never mind the others things. Very, very over priced imho. |
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Once again thank you for the advice, I'll give it all careful consideration
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I have just renewed the Breakdown Insurance on the PANNY as the RAM facility is worth it's wait in gold.
.so to all you Panny haters.Stan |
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I went for the Foxsat HDR with 500 GB and love it so far. I've had a 9200 so was able to jump straight in and work most things out withour reading the manual but think I'm going to have to take a look for the finer detail.
Thank you all for your advice. |
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You forget that you can still use RGB scart for SD pictures, the HD picture quality is excellent. The Panny lacks a lot of features that you get with a hdr.
Can record BBC HD and ITV HD without encryption
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How do you manage this ?? I can't do it
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You need to switch the box over to non-freesat mode first and then the important bit is to return it to standby, then reboot and the box will then record BBC HD and ITV HD without the encryption.
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Brilliant, now all I have to do is figure out how to move to non-freesat !!
![]() To switch between Freesat and non-freesat you need to press the menu button and select the 'settings' option and at the bottom of the screen is an STB mode which can be toggled for each mode. Press exit or the back button to escape the current screen or return to the video output. |
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To switch between Freesat and non-freesat you need to press the menu button and select the 'settings' option and at the bottom of the screen is an STB mode which can be toggled for each mode. Press exit or the back button to escape the current screen or return to the video output.
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