Seriously, you may not like it. Fine. It may not be to your taste. Fine. But don't state your opinions on the quality of modern music as fact. Music is subjective, you can't cateogorize ''good'' and ''bad'' music.

If we went by certain people's perceptions of music in the past you'd think music then was Beethoven like fgs.

And when did the charts represent the quality of music we listen to? ''The charts is littered with so and so'' ''the charts is full of rubbish etc etc etc''. The charts are a measurement of popularity, not quality. So why do people expect what they consider to be ''good music'' to be in the charts?

The chart makes up a largerly young demographic i.e teenagers, so they will buy whatever is marketed to them.

People forget when you are teenager your tastes are changing every day as you are just discovering what you like/dislike musically.

Don't mock teenagers for there taste in music - mock the radio stations who limit what type of music they are exposed to.

Also, if people try to find music they actually like instead of expecting it to be handed to them on a plate then maybe they'd discover the real gems of today's music which may not be in the charts due to lack of promotion/airplay but is very good.

People from a older decade should not expect the charts to have music which will appeal to them, because music is not aimed at people over 25. Teenagers are seen as the money generators, so therefore is it unlikely someone over 25 will like it. Although my mum who is in her 40s is very open minded and actually doesn't spend her time just slagging off everything after 2003.

Just like people who apperciate music in eras such as the sixties would like people to seek out that music and apperciate instead of seeing it as ''old stuff'' is the same way I feel about the music of today. Because it simply more than the Top 40 and we ought to be more postitive and apperciate and speard the word about the music we do love, instead of spending 60% of the time slagging something off.


No doubt someone will get offended and attack me, but hey it's a free world.

I agree I hope you don't get bashed too harshly! Good luck.

i agree princess! we all are each to our own and if whining people are on here to complain then that is their problem!

i am 18 years old and have a great range of tastes for artists over eras and genres so therefore people who dislike today's music are completely MAD, 'music makes the people come together' a pop legend has stated! and that is too true! music evolves and so do musicians, sounds change forever more and some styles i don't like such as that strange hip-hop raggae stuff like Soujah Boi or whatever! but i love those big anthemic dance songs as well as some great funky numbers and old skool house style tunes.

cheers

i often disagree with you on this forum but i have to say i agree with 99.99% of your post

Thanks for the luck

They're coming for me

Same here.

It's utterly tedious seeing people spout the same tired crap over and over and over again. There's plenty of decent music being released today; you just need to look further than the likes of Radio One to find it. If people aren't even prepared to look then that's their problem.

I'm shocked you read my posts - it's nice to know you agree though.

Haha be brave!! Good thing about the forums though is ignoring people is wonderfully easy

I like a lot of today's music, but I understand why so many don't and why hardly anyone cares about the charts any more.

The problem I have is with shows like X Factor that are teaching this generation of kids that the only thing that matters in music is having a half-decent voice and being no.1 in the charts.

And another problem is that a lot of today's pop music is engineered to sell, rather than being there for the purpose of music itself. I myself do like a lot of manufactured pop, but the worrying thing is that the big record labels seem more interested than investing in fluff that will sell rather than real quality - hence why nearly all the good albums this year haven't sold much, and the quality artists get pushed into the background and get hardly any mainstream promotion.

Totally agree. Btw, I depise souja boy too


Exactly. I sigh with frustration everytime I see the usual people saying the same thing again.

I don't have an issue with people not liking today's music or them not caring about charts. What do the charts mean anyway? What does annoy me is when some people become snobby and start trying to define good and bad music.

I like watching the XF but I do see it's Cowell's money making machine that gives kids a unrealistic of fame, and how to become famous.

I think there are artists out there who do make music because they enjoy it not just to sell. There will always be your true artists and your money making machines. What diffrenchiates the two is the legacy they leave behind.

The problem with the danger of the money making machines overtaking genuine artists is because of the power record companies have.

Indeed

A good OP.

If you only want to listen to music from the 1960s or whenever, that's fine. CDs and digital technology will allow you to do that.
However, if you want to listen to music from today, that really isn't a problem.

it's just an opinion but todays music can't hold a candle to thirty and forty years ago, well no, it's not an opinion it's a fact

get used to the moaning, plenty more when that came from.

I know what you mean, but there are cases where we can make a judgement on things... for example, I think it's fair to say that Radiohead are better musically than Scouting For Girls. As it happens I like listening to SFG's music better than Radiohead's, but I can appreciate that Radiohead are better musically, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy SFG more... you get what I mean. I think that's what a lot of people mean when they make judgements on good and bad music.

I don't like when people try and tell others what they should be buying, but again, there are cases when it's pretty obvious that some music sells because of reasons other than the music itself. Example... the X Factor winner's songs, (I know I'm moaning about X Factor again but hey) do they sell hundreds of thousands of copies because people like it, or because they are the winner's song? I think that's quite obvious. And is Justin Bieber mega-popular and selling lots of albums because of his music, or because young girls fancy him? That's a fairly obvious answer too.

nothing like a good fresh record, that's why we moan, because we care

Again, I don't think anyone can define real music. Memorable music maybe, but not ''real music'', or ''good music''.

As for Justin time will tell in his case wherther he's some teen sensation that will join the ranks of Aaron Carter in 5 years or someone whose music will mature.

Same goes for the XF acts time will tell wherther they've built up a soild fanbase or those who just enjoy it for the moment before deserting you, leaving you in the ranks of Leon Jackson, Steve whathisname, and Shayne Ward.

TBH, I don't think anyone can assume on an accurate unbiased bias, people's reasons for buying a single. I've bought XF winners singles, because I like them not because I'm in favour of the winner. I say, let people enjoy what they enjoy.

the passing of time defines it, who knows in ten years time we may all be looking back and saying Justin Timberlands work can stand alongside Dylan and Bowie

Time isn't a person therefore no one can define real music. I suggest you understand the concept of ''subjective''.

Indeed. There is lots of great stuff out there, its just that it doesn't get the coverage it deserves.

Blame the record companies, who'll shovel any bland crap out to chart. The last time I checked, the average age of a buyer of Top 10 songs was 11 years old.

The chart /= Good
The chart /= Quality of today's music

But this really sums it up. The cover of Rolling Stone this month says "The State of Rock", over the top of a picture of The Black Eyed Peas.

Kinda says it all when a bland pop-hip-hop combo are called "Rock".

The industry is broke.

It's out there if you want to look, and looking has never been easier, thanks to the internet.

A couple of years back I was really stuck in a rut and only listened to stuff from my own teenage years, but I've really got back into music now so feel quite strongly about this.

This is so true! There a so many artists now who are inspiring to see! People need to stop being so stereotypical!

But thats also a stereotype, there is plenty of good music in the charts, Its not preteneding to be anything other than good pop music but its not all bland!

This is why the Digital Economy Bill is so dangerous, as it'll strip away your ability to pick and choose.

Do you know in America, the equivalent of the BPI are investigating the possibility of charging 1 cent per play of those 30 second clips on iTunes? You won't be able to hear even a clip to check its the song you wanted to play, without a charge being made to someone down the line.