Indeed. The record companies NEED to be stopped before it's too late. I don't know if the Bill will work here, but I feel sorry for those in the states....

the point is that 'todays music' isnt really 'todays' is it.... its just rehashed retro. im not saying that it cant be good, but in this hyped up age where rampant commercialism rules, modern technology makes even the dullest of artists seem good, the musicianship and creativity certainly ISNT as good as what it was.

sometimes im damn glad im 'old'... at least i witnessed the evolution in pop music and remembers the time when each generation had their own identity and sound.. you lot have NOTHING new.

Opinion not fact. All of it.

Damn girl... nice post agreed all the way!

Ah, the admitting defeat smiley, Looks like you won that round MMR.

Of course there is good music these days, like there has been good music in every decade.

In my opinion, the charts have been dead now for at least 15 years, but outside of the battle of "who has the best hype machine", there are some really good acts spanning several genres.

If you just use the charts or mainstream radio as a litmus test on today music, you're missing out on a hell of a lot of good stuff.

If you just use the charts or mainstream radio to judge, you have no business moaning about the state of music.

People who want to be spoon fed and told who or what to listen to clearly aren't actually that interested in music. These are usually the people moaning about the state of today's music, despite being ignorant about it.

I get annoyed at both sides - those that only rely on today's music and think of music from more than a few years ago as old and tired, and also the ones that think credible music stopped being made decades ago.

My tastes depend on the artist and style of music, time is irrelevant for me.

WTF?
The ''admiting defeat smiley''. lol. Go back and read my OP to see how utterly contradictory your post is compared to what I said.

People can voice their opinion on whether they think today's music is crap or not. The only problem I have with this is that sometimes the person who does think it's crap states it as a fact when it's clearly an opinion.

Now the one thing that does annoy me is when people think we all have to love a certain artist and they are a superior being to all other artists. But that's a WHOLE other thread!

I did another thread on this issue sometime ago and my music collections goes as back as the 40s. I love and apperciate music from the past. I also happen to like music in this decade too.

That's my key issue here.

Sorry didn't read the OP properly.

It's ok

Good for you.

I thought when everybody reached their teens they suddenly had this great hunger to challenge their musical tastes and discover something new by listening to music from different periods of time or from different genres.

Recently though, I feel like not many of them seem to do it. They seem stuck with what's infront of them.
Oh well, their loss.

I did this last year . I got fed up of chart music so I decided to listen to something a bit different and rarely listen to chart stuff anymore.

So there's one teenager that has changed their tastes.

Judging by this forum it backs up your opinion with fact

So you want me to go back and read your opening post instead of regarding the post I actually replied to.

Ah, sorry, I see you by your lol you were making a joke.

Edit: I've just went back and re-read the OP and it basically states what I said, not contradictory at all.

In what context, if not the admitting defeat smiley did you use the roll eyes for? Usually that is used to disregard the post you are replying to, i.e not acknowledging it and replying it, but ignoring it, hence why I called it the admitting defeat smiley, if you used it in a different context, then I'm interested.

I agree with you on the post because as you say there is more music outside of the chart music for us all to discover and this is definately true! on the other hand, I do think people are entitled to put their opinion across on the forum no doubt if they don't like certain music as much as you and I....xo

My brother mocks my taste daily, as I mock his. Such is life. What would you do to change it? Make everyone the same age? Take away personal opinion? I can live with the way it is now.

Thing is, I find it tiring with people feeling like they need to defend it, or at least "get sick" of people who are sick of music they are free to be sick with. If they don't like it, then they don't like it. Why should their tastes bother you?

Also, if you're sick of people mocking today's music, then what has changed? Did people not do this in the past? Why are you only sick of this now?

I also agree with mushmanrob that today's music quite poor and is nothing new or innovative in comparison to previous decades. No particular sounds to remember for me in the last few years anyway.

Generation Y people just have to accept they're not as good as Generation X'ers i'm afraid. Tsk tsk.

I Agree entirely with the op. I get so sick of hearing people spout on
about what they regard as rubbish in todays charts, usually
with the finger pointed at rap and hip hop.
I am similiar in age to the op's mum, and enjoy all types of music, from before i was born, Elvis, Nat king cole, music before
my time, The Who, The Beatles, music of my youth, ska, reggae
and punk, but i also love Eminem, Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Ndubz, Chris Brown, Robbie and loads more. This is my point, it's all about
personal taste, each to their own and all that. I dont think theres any good or bad music, though there are types i dont
like, it's what makes us all individual, and thank goodness for
that, how dull life would be, if we all liked the same things.

nope.... its a FACT that from the 50's to the mid 80's new music was created, its also a fact, not an opinion, that in more recent times there is NO 'new' music, just variations on old stuff. yep i know if you look hard enough you can find some, but thats always been the case. theres been no original musical genre for over a decade that has defined an era.

like it or not, modern music IS all derived from MY generations inovation.

Your opinion is not fact you might as well get to grips with it. Nothing, no music is enterily orginal it was all insipired from another music before it. To pretend that pre 2000s everything was orginal is laughable.

BTW, Grime music would fit your ''new music'' cateogory.
Like it or not, your opinion is just that. An opinion.

Music is subjective.......one person cannot judge music from an unbiased view to form an opinion on the quote ''artistry'' of the sound because perspective will always be a factor. The only way to tell is through time, and wherther that music is remembered in let's say 20 years.

So again you need to remember your opinion is not fact.


My deal is certain people thinking their opinion is fact and almost having a snobbish attutide to music forgetting the real why music exsists. Its not to be considered good by a bunch of musical purists. It is to make people feel good.

There opinion to me doesn't matter - what matters is the factual stance they take on the matter. I also have no idea if new music was mocked in the past.

I used it because I felt like the poster I was relying to had not taken on any of what I said and still had the attutide that my view is fact, when an opinion cannot be fact it's an opinion.
I never meant to ignore the posters reply or whatever.

IMO, music has gone downhill since 1997 onwards. All we hear today is 'guitar' music (minus the 'pop idol' stuff).

How anyone can like such depressing 'noise' is beyond me.

What happened to happy music from the 80s ? - music that put you in a good mood instead of making you suicidal ?