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SM's Scottish Agenda! (Merged)
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Tigger-Roo
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“Taggart now there was a great programme - anyway I didn't say I was Scottish, although I do have the red hair - I merely, like my beloved Ianto - dabble.
Why can't I aspire to be Scottish if I want to - it's my choice.”

Of course it is. But you don't need to trawl your feral yearnings through this thread. This discussion is for those gentle folk who appreciate the Englishness of England.

There must be a thread out there for those who wish to dabble in Ianto whilst in Scotland. Although why Ianto is not good enough to be dabbled in, whilst in England I don't know.
Tumpy
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Of course it is. But you don't need to trawl your feral yearnings through this thread. This discussion is for those gentle folk who appreciate the Englishness of England.

There must be a thread out there for those who wish to dabble in Ianto whilst in Scotland. Although why Ianto is not good enough to be dabbled in, whilst in England I don't know. ”

Oh I don't discriminate I'd dabble with Ianto anywhere as long as he looked at me and spoke with those lovely Welsh vowels. I even know which suit he'd be wearing for a while!!!
outside
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by Webslark:
“Is this nonsense STILL going on???”

This nonsense??????

outside's monocle pops out and flies across the shag

What are you suggesting???

Are you a Scotch, by any chance??? Offended by my frank, forthright and universally held views???

Oh, why oh why are so many Doctcor Who fans Scotchers???

Not that I mind but many, many others do, it seems.

Originally Posted by Webslark:
“I would have thought by now that people had realised that outside and lach doch mal are posting merely to wind people up
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or given they are as well matched as a pair of socks maybe it should be IS posting
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People are definitely not as wise as you think they are...

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Ye speak the Grey code?


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Ye know too much...


Originally Posted by Webslark:
“All I can say is that the actual scots related content of DW is at such a low level that only those who have a pathological and irrational hatred of the highlands would make anything of it.
Time to treat them as they deserve. ”



But... but... only I'm allowed to use the rolleyes...



By my giddy aunt, I think i just got serviced!

Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Tumpy! Dear, dear Tumpy, I am dismayed. *shakes head in disbelief*
You may think you have cunningly disguised that verbal dart aimed at my humble English friends, but I can see right through you.

I am a tolerant person, I embrace all colours, creeds and nations. However, I do not take kindly to non-Scotch people, wishing they were Scotch and then accusing, yes wrong-fully accusing innocent bystanders of being Scotch too. They have not warranted this accusation. I have not seen anything to even mildly imply they are Scotch.

I suggest you get back to your episodes of Taggart and leave us mild mannered English folk alone.”

Post of the Thread and a nice, pleasant blast of sanity around my heynonnynonnies.
lach doch mal
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“Giving myself a big english bulldog type kick....yes yes I know there is no such thing....but I couldn't think of anything smart to”

As you feel the same as myself, you can pretty much say anything you like as long as it it anti-scotch.

Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“There was even a reference to the Scottish agenda in Dr Who in Eastenders tonight

Oh sorry my mistake it was the

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gay agenda - go Captain Jack
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I don't watch it, but I know it is abysmal. SM should not have been allowed to produce EE **hang on a moment, wrong thread**

Originally Posted by outside:
“By jingo, it's like being trapped in a Carry On film. I wonder long I can keep my trousers on for? ”




Originally Posted by outside:
“
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Good. She must not know.


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Not that we are and neither are we the same person, gonking for our own nefarious purposes under (at least) two different user names.

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I'm sure Scrumpy cannot read grey spoilers so I can say about her what I want without being found out. She has been quite insistent though, accusing me of Scot-o-phobia and marriage, neither of which I approve off



Originally Posted by outside:
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I suspect others have learned how to speak the Grey Code. Tumpy worked at Bletchley during the war, I think.

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Sh*t. Are you sure?



Originally Posted by outside:
“Yes, the majority seem to be Scottish?

A lot of Scotch like Catherine Tate (yuk).


Oh, I hope I am not secretly Scottish.
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That's preposterous, of course you are not secretly Scottish

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It's a well known fact to our friends that you are



Originally Posted by outside:
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We are blessed! I can't wait to be a faither again!

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and to celebrate I will have another bottle of bucky and whisky






Originally Posted by Webslark:
“Is this nonsense STILL going on???

I would have thought by now that people had realised that outside and lach doch mal are posting merely to wind people up
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or given they are as well matched as a pair of socks maybe it should be IS posting


All I can say is that the actual scots related content of DW is at such a low level that only those who have a pathological and irrational hatred of the highlands would make anything of it.
Time to treat them as they deserve.

As the Docotr would say - "moving on"
And anyway... Jo Grant is coming back ”

This nonsense??????

lach doch mal's glasses .... hang on a minute I posted that already....


Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Tumpy! Dear, dear Tumpy, I am dismayed. *shakes head in disbelief*
You may think you have cunningly disguised that verbal dart aimed at my humble English friends, but I can see right through you.

I am a tolerant person, I embrace all colours, creeds and nations. However, I do not take kindly to non-Scotch people, wishing they were Scotch and then accusing, yes wrong-fully accusing innocent bystanders of being Scotch too. They have not warranted this accusation. I have not seen anything to even mildly imply they are Scotch.

I suggest you get back to your episodes of Taggart and leave us mild mannered English folk alone.”

Good post, I would almost say post of the thread....
outside
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“As you feel the same as myself, you can pretty much say anything you like as long as it it anti-scotch.”

Hear hear! Most folks with at least half a brain would agree. Anyone naysaying is a snide partyp-pooper...

Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
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I'm sure Scrumpy cannot read grey spoilers so I can say about her what I want without being found out. She has been quite insistent though, accusing me of Scot-o-phobia and marriage, neither of which I approve off
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She does the same to me. I was out and about this morning, taking my dogs (Nyssa and Tegan) down to the village green to do their dirty business, and a rusty estate car nearly flattened the three of us! I swiftly scampered to the driver's window and was presented with the foulest torrent of abuse I've had since yesterday morning! Plus, the stench of cider would have floored an ostrich. Now, I frequently go dogging on that green if the weather's nice but I don't usually get a mouthful from complete strangers. Anyone would have thought it was my fault for acting like I own the place! Now, I have absolutely no proof that it was her but I'd recognise her red Volvo anywhere.


Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“That's preposterous, of course you are not secretly Scottish”

Not demographically, no.

I am dreading this Saturday's next blast of propaganda. I have written to the BBC DG and asked - somewhat politely - that any Scotch characters are pixellated or dubbed as they give me "the dry boak".
Tumpy
28-04-2010
Honestly I thought this thread had died a natural death but here you are revving it again.
I think you're obsessed - you and your wife/partner. Anyway here is a nice picture for you to look at and aspire to.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...06_219x450.jpg

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I wondered where you were. Didn't you have an SNP meeting togo to tonight in Glasgow
outside
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“Honestly I thought this thread had died a natural death but here you are revving it again.”

Whilst the tiger's still in the tank, I'll rev it for as long as I physically can!

Agenda threads never die... they just get locked.

Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“I think you're obsessed - you and your wife/partner.”

I/we/she/us are not obsessed.

We just like to get right to the bottom (and I mean the bottom) of any issue.

Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“ Anyway here is a nice picture for you to look at and aspire to.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...06_219x450.jpg”

Ouch.... double whammy.

Originally Posted by Tumpy:
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I wondered where you were. Didn't you have an SNP meeting togo to tonight in Glasgow
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Ye saucy wee minx.
CoalHillJanitor
15-06-2010
My apologies outside, you are clearly not secretly Scottish because I have it on good authority you are 'normally' flabby. The latest research has shown that all Scotsmen are either ridiculously buff from all that caber-tossing or else obese caricatures due to a surfeit of haggis. Soz for suspecting you.

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Seriously though, can you get me some shortbread?
agent_c
16-06-2010
Originally Posted by marksteel:
“Last week in 11th Hour we got a 'you're Scottish, fry something' line and after seeing a clip from next weeks episode, we're getting a 'Scotland wanted their own ship' line from Amy with Britain taking to the skys.

Gotta love the Scots! lol I'm not Scotish by the way. I just hope we don't get many people thinking is yet another AGENDA!”

If there was an agenda, The Brig and Jamie would have made an appearance in Who by now...
marksteel
16-06-2010
I only started this thread as a joke. Opps.

There is no 'real' Scottish Agenda in Doctor Who. Amy is Scottish and so once in a while, it will be highlited.
outside
16-06-2010
Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“My apologies outside, you are clearly not secretly Scottish because I have it on good authority you are 'normally' flabby. The latest research has shown that all Scotsmen are either ridiculously buff from all that caber-tossing or else obese caricatures due to a surfeit of haggis. Soz for suspecting you. ”

Some interesting points. Solid research, too. A rather convincing argument, I'd say.

Here's a picture of me, taken yesterday, to prove your point.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2257/...528794ace0.jpg

Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
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Seriously though, can you get me some shortbread?
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Got some ready here waiting for you - just bring the money to the usual place. It's good stuff - all butter, tartan box; I can offer you a petticoat tail or would you prefer a finger?


Originally Posted by marksteel:
“I only started this thread as a joke. Opps.”

Opps, indeed. I haven't laughed once.
CoalHillJanitor
16-06-2010
Originally Posted by outside:
“Some interesting points. Solid research, too. A rather convincing argument, I'd say.

Here's a picture of me, taken yesterday, to prove your point.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2257/...528794ace0.jpg



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Got some ready here waiting for you - just bring the money to the usual place. It's good stuff - all butter, tartan box; I can offer you a petticoat tail or would you prefer a finger?




Opps, indeed. I haven't laughed once. ”

Fine picture of an English gentleman.
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Petticoat tail every time! And a few opps if you've got any.
Muttley76
17-06-2010
Originally Posted by marksteel:
“I only started this thread as a joke. Opps.

There is no 'real' Scottish Agenda in Doctor Who. Amy is Scottish and so once in a while, it will be highlited.”

ha, too late to try and back out now....
Tumpy
17-06-2010
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“ha, too late to try and back out now....”

Indeed I'm thinking of starting a thread with is Matt Smith really Scottish or perhaps is Steven Moffat really Scottish or John Barrowman really Scottish or Amy Pond really Scottish or David Tennant really Scottish or indeed Vincent Van Gogh!!!! Hmm I think there may be a Scottish agenda after all
JohnFlawbod
17-06-2010
Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“Indeed I'm thinking of starting a thread with is Matt Smith really Scottish or perhaps is Steven Moffat really Scottish or John Barrowman really Scottish or Amy Pond really Scottish or David Tennant really Scottish or indeed Vincent Van Gogh!!!! Hmm I think there may be a Scottish agenda after all”

Damn those timorous beasties!

"My Lord? There appears to be a large red hedge coming towards us!"

"Baldric? That is not, in fact, a red hedge, that is, in fact: The Scots!"

outside
18-06-2010
Originally Posted by Tumpy:
“Indeed I'm thinking of starting a thread with is Matt Smith really Scottish or perhaps is Steven Moffat really Scottish or John Barrowman really Scottish or Amy Pond really Scottish or David Tennant really Scottish or indeed Vincent Van Gogh!!!! Hmm I think there may be a Scottish agenda after all”



Ha ha ha! That’s almost like the “Is Matt Smith gay??” thread out there! As if being gay and being Scottish are interchangeable! Ha ha ha! The very idea! Oh, you do make me laugh! Indeed, I'm thinking of starting a thread with “Is Matt Smith really Scottish??”. Though, no doubt, the Scotch-loving contingent of this Forum would be out in force to pooh-pooh my points and emasculate my evidence. It’s so predictable.

I’ve been harangued and abused on this thread fairly often but my anti-Scotch views are easily explained. I was brought up in a very conservative family; my father was an English Gentleman and my mother was a Dowdy Housewife. I was never told that there were Scottish people in England (as I believe the United Kingdom was called back then) so I grew up thinking they were dirty and bizarre. I’m in my eighties now so is it so difficult to accept that I haven’t escaped my childhood indoctrination and still believe that Scotchers are foul and unacceptable? Just because I am an “adult”, do you honestly expect me to behave or think as one? I have never, to my knowledge, met a Scottish and no-one I know admits to being one, so are you suggesting I treat them as normal English persons???

They have no place in Doctor Who and I am peeved that Stuart Moffat thinks they do. Is it any wonder the viewing figures are down to an all time low? I have no evidence to hand but isn’t it common knowledge that this series has been the worst ever due to its Scotch bias? Viewers have stopped watching in their hundreds!

I hear that Beth Willis (one of the Three Who Rule) has been laid off because she insisted on wearing a mini-kilt to a tone meeting. Good riddance, I say. Ed Thomas? Looks Welsh on Confidential but was obviously wearing too much under his kilt so had to go. Tracie Simpson & Peter Bennett? Refused to hunt haggis – despite SM’s direct orders – so had to leave, too.

I know that a lot of you SM Followers have absolutely no idea of Doctor Who existing before 2010 but some die-hards, like myself, have a pathological fascination with Classic Who. We love Doctror Who more than you do!!! That’s why Scotchers turn our stomachs!

The “The Terror of Zygon” story from 1976 has gone down in history as one of the worst pieces of television ever made ever. The Radio Times has it listed as “Too Scottish for a family show and shamefully so”. Why? Well, it features a stark and frank portrayal of Scottish culture and practices never before seen on Dcotcor Who or, indeed, mainstream TV. Why do you think Mary Whitehouse issued her infamous “Scottish acts are thoroughly sickening and illegal” statement on the 30th August 1975?

It's happening all over again. Stuart Moffat should hang his head in shame.

lach doch mal
18-06-2010
Originally Posted by outside:
“Ha ha ha! That’s almost like the “Is Matt Smith gay??” thread out there! As if being gay and being Scottish are interchangeable! Ha ha ha! The very idea! Oh, you do make me laugh! Indeed, I'm thinking of starting a thread with “Is Matt Smith really Scottish??”. Though, no doubt, the Scotch-loving contingent of this Forum would be out in force to pooh-pooh my points and emasculate my evidence. It’s so predictable. ”

Well I haven't contributed to this thread for a while because I felt I would be hunted down for my perfectly reasonable anti-Scotch reasoning.

I understand that I might have appeared a bit hasty at the beginning of the series, but now it's proven SM has a Scottish agenda.

Originally Posted by outside:
“I’ve been harangued and abused on this thread fairly often but my anti-Scotch views are easily explained. I was brought up in a very conservative family; my father was an English Gentleman and my mother was a Dowdy Housewife. I was never told that there were Scottish people in England (as I believe the United Kingdom was called back then) so I grew up thinking they were dirty and bizarre. I’m in my eighties now so is it so difficult to accept that I haven’t escaped my childhood indoctrination and still believe that Scotchers are foul and unacceptable? Just because I am an “adult”, do you honestly expect me to behave or think as one? I have never, to my knowledge, met a Scottish and no-one I know admits to being one, so are you suggesting I treat them as normal English persons??? ”

No you shouldn't. It's fairly obvious to me and many others, that Scotch people do need corrective therapy to alleviate the accents and to integrate them and curb their appetite for haggis and Scotch tablets. SM should never have been allowed to use his own personal feelings to use it for his own ethnic cleansing, pretty soon there will only be Scotch people left in the UK (I feel quite Scotch myself).

Originally Posted by outside:
“They have no place in Doctor Who and I am peeved that Stuart Moffat thinks they do. Is it any wonder the viewing figures are down to an all time low? I have no evidence to hand but isn’t it common knowledge that this series has been the worst ever due to its Scotch bias? Viewers have stopped watching in their hundreds!

I hear that Beth Willis (one of the Three Who Rule) has been laid off because she insisted on wearing a mini-kilt to a tone meeting. Good riddance, I say. Ed Thomas? Looks Welsh on Confidential but was obviously wearing too much under his kilt so had to go. Tracie Simpson & Peter Bennett? Refused to hunt haggis – despite SM’s direct orders – so had to leave, too.

I know that a lot of you SM Followers have absolutely no idea of Doctor Who existing before 2010 but some die-hards, like myself, have a pathological fascination with Classic Who. We love Doctror Who more than you do!!! That’s why Scotchers turn our stomachs!

The “The Terror of Zygon” story from 1976 has gone down in history as one of the worst pieces of television ever made ever. The Radio Times has it listed as “Too Scottish for a family show and shamefully so”. Why? Well, it features a stark and frank portrayal of Scottish culture and practices never before seen on Dcotcor Who or, indeed, mainstream TV. Why do you think Mary Whitehouse issued her infamous “Scottish acts are thoroughly sickening and illegal” statement on the 30th August 1975?

It's happening all over again. Stuart Moffat should hang his head in shame.

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This could have been written by myself, I agree 100%.
Dogmatix
18-06-2010
Sean Connery for the next Master!
lach doch mal
18-06-2010
Originally Posted by Dogmatix:
“Sean Connery for the next Master!”

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This sounds like an excellent idea, but don't tell anyone I said that


Preposterous! That would never work.
CoalHillJanitor
19-06-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Well I haven't contributed to this thread for a while because I felt I would be hunted down for my perfectly reasonable anti-Scotch reasoning.

I understand that I might have appeared a bit hasty at the beginning of the series, but now it's proven SM has a Scottish agenda.



No you shouldn't. It's fairly obvious to me and many others, that Scotch people do need corrective therapy to alleviate the accents and to integrate them and curb their appetite for haggis and Scotch tablets. SM should never have been allowed to use his own personal feelings to use it for his own ethnic cleansing, pretty soon there will only be Scotch people left in the UK (I feel quite Scotch myself).



This could have been written by myself, I agree 100%.”

You are quite right about tablet, no doubt contributing to the obese caricature at least as much as the haggis.
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But och how irresistible!
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