I am afraid to have to inform the learned gentleman that Capn Jack Harkness is Scottish, but John Barrowman is not. They made Jack Scottish for the programme but then disguised this so as not to offend the Scotophobes. Therefore Capn Jack's Scottishness has been shoved down your throat quite regularly, you just haven't noticed.

Quite but how many of them actually want to be normal, though? The older ones have lived their entire lives out in the open as "proud Scots" and I don't see them changing. Unless they're made to.

The younger ones are tuning into Doctor ho in their dozens and seeing his latest floozie - Annie, I believe she's called - strutting her stuff in a Scottish accent and mini-kilt! How many of those delicate minds will be affected by that? How many will grow up listening to the Bay City Rollers and drinking Irn Bru???

Just one is one too many. Oh, the humanity!


I am on medication, yes, but I am not now, and nor have I ever been, Scottish! I have a very weak bladder and I'm prone to bursting into tears when things don't go my way. The tablets keep me on an even keel and allow me to troll to my heart's content.


I have an older "uncle" who lives alone and lets me watch Hartnell stories which are no longer in the BBC Archives! You really should meet him. He isn't Scottish!

Of course they exist, no-one's denying that. They can love whatever weird things they like, but they have no place on Saturday evening television. I'm eating my dinner when I watch this show, for crying out loud!

Plus, kids watch this show. Lots of kids. We can't have a nation of good London children growing up thinking its ok to like Haggis, can we? The jellied eel business would dry up overnight. And let's not even think about our children getting interested in lochs and mountains. Eugh!

Seriously, though, I have nothing against Scots or Scots-lovers. I even think they should have their own TV show on at some stupid hour of the morning. That's only fair. But Doctor Who is hardly the place for a person to be speaking in a Scottish accent. It sends out all the wrong messages and just smacks of preaching. It's just not on.

and just to be sure you know I'm right, here are some more rolly-eyes to prove the point :

Is that what that was???

Och aye the nonny nonny!

I have nothing against Scottish people as such, I just don't want them thrust in my face of a Saturday evening. And I certainly don't want my children exposed to such things, they are at that impressionable age.

Scottish are fine in Scotland. I just don't see what's the point of having them in DW as it's of no concern to the children if there are Scottish people or not.

Well I hadn't considered that. I naturally assumed they would know that their Scottishness isn't acceptable, and that they would do anything to get over it.

BTW, things should always go your way, as you are without doubt the only proper Dr Who fan on here.


Don't try to reason with these people. They are some kind of liberals that would promote the daleks to get some therapy for misdirected genocidal tendencies. I'm sure there are some nice Lochs and Mountains on Skaro

I would advise against giving Scots their own show though. I think the occasional reference on some of the more daring soaps should be enough (children might watch TV in the morning if they cannot sleep). Think of the children!

Apparently, John Barrowman - the worst atcor in the history of the world - held the BBC to ransom! He demanded that the BBC make Captain Jack Scottish and, due to the rarity of his television appearances, the powers that be - against their better judgement, I am certain - gave in to his questionable demand.


Exactly! This debate is being derailed by the usual suspects - we know who they are and, thanks to Google maps, I know where they live - intent on furthering their own cause. It's so upsetting to a genuine poster like myself that I could weep.


Yes, you can be as offensive as you like but add a or a and you can get away with anything!

Now that doesn't surprise me. In fact I may make a complaint to my favourite educational newspaper about this outrageous activity. If anyone will take up the guantlet on this matter I am confident the Daily Male will.

I have a friend who knows a dog who knows a man who once accidentally bumped into a woman in the boxing day Primark rush who's Judo instructor works at Greggs and occasionally serves Vegatrian Sausage Rolls to a guy who's job it is to spray Febreeze on Matt Smiths bow tie and apparently in the Series Finale



This agenda and the evil scottish mastermind behind it are out of control!

(This is 100% reliable made up nonsense )

** hands outside a tissue. It's really upsetting that you are so upset, because you are such a genuine poster. Why don't you invite all your thousands of friends next Saturday to watch Dr Who (maybe you are lucky and they spot all the Scottish references for you). You can then come back and whinge (I mean logically discuss) how SM has ruined the show for you, and cite the irrefutable evidence of your friends' raised eyebrows at every Scottish comment. . I know I will do the same.

Now where are the Scottish lovers out there? All you free thinking liberals are quick to support other agendas but why oh why don't you extend the same support to those of us who think that there is nothing wrong with being Scottish even if we are actually Welsh but just like visiting Scotland a few times in a year.
I am ashamed to live in a society that would persecute a minority group in this way just because of the occasional Scottish reference in a family programme.

I knew it, and I bet MS will have developed a Scottish accent by the end of the series as well




Maybe it's because nobody supports the portrayal of Scottish people in a lighthearted Saturday night family programme. I know you think we are bigotted, but you have your proof now. No-one wants stuff shoved down their throats. SM should just give up and let Mark Gatiss become the head writer (I'm sure any Scottish references in VOTD were due to SM physically forcing Mark Gatiss to include them - I know someone who knows someone, who knows someone who knows someone and they told me).

Indubitably! I'm a very important member of several official Dtoctor Who Forums and I write a lot of short stories about Turlough when he wore his Planet of Fire speedos. I'm currently completing my first Doctor Who book so I hope my felt tips don't dry out before I get to the end. I know a lot about any subject I - or, perhaps, you, if I'm feeling generous - care to mention and, yes, I'm opinionated but it's because I'm right.


A fellow Daily Male reader! Now, you are a very astute individual and I'm glad you took as much umbrage at Barrowman shoving his "Scotch Pride" down your throat as I did. Eventually.

I don't know why....but I feel like planning a holiday in Scotland this year!!

Leave the man alone. He has every right to be Scottish if he wants to be. He is a great representative for the Scots and people are just jealous of his talent. I personally cannot get enough of him but then I am willing to embrace his Scottishness completely in a supportive environment. And I'd gladly make him a cup of coffee too.

I seriously think that the two of us are sharing an IP address, because you are so right and I'm so right, it's almost as if we are the same people (although I'm sure it never happens that people change their identities and have two different usernames).


It's because of the utter tribe that Dr Who has become, SM has destroyed everything Even innocent people like you, who proabably enjoyed watching Dr Who for the space ships and aliens, are now converted to want to go to Scotland (which is only the first step). It's only a matter of time before you want to be Scottish.

What on earth are you thinking? Are you some sort of deviant?

Calm down!

Some people are taking this far too seriously. A light-hearted discussion has turned very ugly. No need to personally attack me, Frumpy.

"Captain Jock" can do what he wants in the privacy of his own home but I resent my licence fee funding his Scottishness and so do millions of others.

Please accept my opinion and that you are sadly in the wrong.

I am delighted to inform you that John Barrowman is most definitely a Scotsman, as his parents are Scots, his siblings are Scots, ergo, as he was not found in a basket in the rushes of the Nile, he too is a Scot!!

So there you are - scotched!!

And I for one are willing to embrace all things Scottish

Looking over your lovingly crafted, witty and insightful posts is like... well, looking at my own posts! You're always right and I'll always agree with you! I'd be honoured to share an IP address with such a cleverclogs as you! You'd almost think that we were in the same room!



Captain?

Burn the witch.

Our House of Commons is stuffed full of Scots bods ruling the English:

Prime Minister Gordon Brown
Alistair Darling

and we used to have Robin Cook, James Smith,

and the Liberals have:
Mengies Campbell, Charles Kennedy etc

so why actors are suddenly nicht allowt to be Scots makes me really scratch mein Kopf.

You Eengleeesh, you are all az mad az ze 'Atter

Yes, the license fee should not be used to subvert our children. It will only lead to Broken Britain, too. you see, those Scots trying to break Britain, again, just like they did by flying off in their own starship in - you guessed it - Doctor Who.

What more proof do we need of the dangers of this agenda? I'm surprised there is not more outrage? Why am I not feeling the outrage? Even I'm not as outraged as I should be and that just enrages me.


First we need a duck.

what happened to the thread? i started it because i didnt know what gay agenda meant, but i never got to see hardly any of it because its disapeared! lol