As someone also has said, it does add up perfectly.
The only thing I don't believe, is that she is a time-lady. According to SM she is a time-traveler though.
I also believe she is luring the Doctor in a trap to trust her completely, so he does give her his name and sonic screwdriver. For this reason their meetings go in reverse order, perfectly planned by RS

However, wouldn't that mean that all her previous meetings (as far as her timeline point of view goes) were leading up to their last meeting. By this time she has his name, the screwdriver and so on.

But their last meeting was in the Library...so whatever her plan was it didn't go too well.

Unless of course her plan was actually carried out a few days before the library (with the Doctor playing his part) and then the Library meeting was an additional extra.

This is all very wibbly wobbly timey wimmy. There's something badly wrong and we're not going to find out exactly what until the crack in the fabric of space and time is explained in the final two episodes. I had to watch 'Blink' about six times before I really got my head round it.!

Could River Song be an older (or even regenerated) Jenny?

I can't see how River would have a clue at which point in the Doctor's timeline he would spot the homebox in the museum - that suggest she's not planning it to that level of detail.

Ahh but the Doctor has to tell her his name so that she can get the tenth Doctor to trust her in the library and he needs to give her the screwdriver so she can be saved.

And although there's a lot of mystery surrounding her, I do trust River and believe she isn't out to get the Doctor. Otherwise, why woud she sacrifice herself for him?

Well just because she sacrifices herself for him at the end of her life doesn't mean she isn't out to get him earlier in her life.

Also, since that was the first time he met her, if he died then, none of their other meetings (earlier for her) would have taken place, which chances are would mean she'd already be dead and not in the library in the first place.

Laws of Time, policed by Who? There's no one left, aside from the Master. Or are you saying that it's the kind of law that the universe enacts?

river did'nt actualy die tho she was saved

Aha yes that is very true I have to stop thinking about this cos my head just hurts

I have a theory that the woman River Song is



It all kinda fits in a wibbly wobbly timey wimey way

Oooh... Just had another thought regarding The Woman... Remember in EOT that she was seen near the end in a pose similar to the The Weeping Angles.. Head lowered with both hands covering her face - Interesting......

Prisoner Zero was a snakey looking thing in the eleventh Hour behind that hidden door. Didn't the Master Take a Snake type form in The Doctor Who Tv movie because all his lives were spent?

So I think

Just remember to tell yourself, "This is why time travel isn't and can't ever be real"

Going back to the theory of The Master, was it ever revealed who the ladies hand was who took the ring from the pyre in The Last of the Time Lords?

It was the hand of one of Lucy Saxon's prison guards.

What the Master did wasn't normal Time Lord procedure for living past your 13th Life, it was, just like him taking over Tremas' body a way he'd worked out himself to carry on living.

I believe (could be wrong) that the novelization of the TVM explained that the snake was meant to be a creature from Skaro that the Master had somehow bonded with.

Hmm lets think and bump this article! Then use some (perhaps) Who logic - It may be flawed but I like the theory, and would love some feedback.

I think -

She cant be a time lord as Doc would know, unless she is A)human form via a chameleon arch and then doc and she’ wouldn’t know themselves. She could theoretically be the doctor in a future incarnation, but likely that would prove suicide to the series so I say no to that. Doctor witnessing his demise, and flirting with himself is a bit strange.

Anyways,

So is she his mother? I doubt it, a wife or lover, I guess so. We’ll find out soon, I don’t think she is a form of him. Most likely she learns Gallifreyan in some mind bonding experience later in the series finale that allows her to send him a message in the episode we have just seen.

What I find more interesting is this….

My mrs has a lovely two part theory we’d like to share,

Part 1
This advances the theory that she is somehow responsible for patient 0 escaping, and maybe even causing the whole of the problems in time that are thematic through this series. That is why there are reoccurring cracks, and no memory of the daleks. In prison for mucking around with time? Again who knows.. Helps to explain why she was in prison, and might have no idea of events that can or cannot be changed as a time lord would.

Part 2
This is regarding a comment that was made in the library episode that seems quite pertinent, (paraphrasing) I would say she said

The Doctor, with a new haircut and a suit, visits River Song and takes her to see the Singing Towers of Darillium. He gives her his Sonic Screwdriver.

This is the event before her death in library episode. So……

My mrs thinks that the doctor will die and regenerate either at the end of this series or shortly through the next, and a new a new doctor will undertake the events where River meets him for the first time. If you look at the timeline river is in, according to library episodes the events unfold in this order for River.

1 She Meets the Doctor for the first time.
2 Has an adventure with the Doctor at the Bone Meadows.
3 Has a picnic with the Doctor at Asgard.
4 Breaches the Byzantium and is rescued by the Doctor
5 River Song and the Doctor are at the crash landing of the Byzantium.
6 The Doctor, with a new haircut and a suit, visits River Song and takes her to see the Singing Towers of Darillium. He gives her his Sonic Screwdriver.
7 Tries to send 'her Doctor' a message via the Psychic paper, asking him to come to the Library.
8 The Doctor, whilst travelling with Donna Noble comes to the Library and meets River Song (for the first time from the doctor’s point of view.)
9 She Proves to the Doctor how important she will be to him by whispering his true name in his ear.
10 Sacrifices herself to save the Doctor and the Library.
11 The Doctor beams River Song from a Neural Relay in her sonic screwdriver into the Library he gave her in event 6.
12 River Song's brainwaves live on in the virtual world inside the Data Core.

This means Tennant has taken care of 7 to 12 - and Matt Smith has/will take care of 4 and 5. When River meets Tennent for the first time from his point of view, she infers he is not her doctor, or not yet her doctor. And when Matt Smith meets her for the first time, she says she recognises him from the book, even though it is not the first time that she has met the doctor, it is the first time she has met Matt Smiths’ (Now remember the first and last time she meets Tennant is those two episodes last series)

This must mean she will meet another doctor as yet unknown to us, who will control events 1 2 3 and finally bitter sweet episode 6 . The nature of the program and that of actors aging (namely River not being able to play her youngest self in five years from now) makes the Mrs think Matt Smith will only be doing one to two series, and we may even have a surprise regeneration at the end of this or near the beginning of next series.

Who knows.

It would be nice telly to have a surprise regeneration out of the blue, with no-one knowing its arrival. Last episode of this series is airing in June, new season filming in June? Just an idea. No offence to matt smith, but Eccleston only did one, and a new older actor would fit in with the quotes river has given in the past, and the theory Moffett is creating.


Listen we just had an idea, and we had a theory about Wilf ages ago and everyone seemed to like it, plus I love the feedback, so let me know what you think.

newman

SM has pretty much said that Time of Angels is not the 2nd time the Doctor meets River.

As Amy had never met her this has to mean that Doc#10 met her again after the Library.

This meeting (or one of these meetings) was probably the Picnic at Asgard.

Transform one of your books into a diary like River Song's! The ideal place to keep spoilers...

River Song's Diary Dust Jacket

Not really posted on here before, and haven't read all the zillions of threads, so don't know if anyone has mentioned the fact that Rani is Hebrew for 'Song'? Can't quite get a word that means River to tie in with this theory, I must admit.

Also, have you noticed that Time Lords always seem to be given academic titles, such as Doctor, Master and Professor (Yana/Chronotis etc.) Hmmm, isn't River Song variously described as Doctor Song and Professor Song.....?

The one thing I remember clearly from the first episode Song was in, was that she said to the Doctor... "You're the youngest I've ever seen you".
Seeing as Smith is much younger than Tennant, none of these events are taking place before The Library.

She wasn't suggesting that Tennant had been the youngest actor to play the doctor that she had met though, she was suggesting that he was the earliest incarnation that she had ever met. For example, if she had gone and met Jon Pertwee, she would have said that he was like a baby or something, as he is only in his third incarnation.

To clarify, she is basically saying that she never actually met the first Nine Doctors, so that eliminates the chance of her being someone familiar (i.e. The Rani) from the Doctors past.

Why would they need Alex Kingston to play her younger self? They could get a different actress (of similar appearance) to play an 18 year old River. This therefore has no time limit, it could happen in 10 years time, or twenty, or 100.

As to who exactly River is, I really don't have a clue. (which makes it much more exciting for me) Maybe a confidence trickster who's bluffed her way into the Doctors life?
What intrigues me is, who taught her to drive the Tardis so well?
She's already said it wasn't 11, so was it 12 or 13 ?
Or, was it a completely different Time Lord?
I'm going to plump for the latter. Which opens up a whole different tin-of-worms...