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Old 25-04-2010, 21:36
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With Freesat HD working great, I decided to try and get Eurosport in Non-freesat mode.

Immediately, I get German Eurosport on Astra 1.
Great reception...

I then tried looking at other satellites, and found nothing of interest.

So, I deleted all channels, and scanned Astra 1 again.
Loads of channels, but, no Eurosport.

Did a factory reset, scanned again, no luck.

Can anyone help?
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Old 26-04-2010, 08:27
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With Freesat HD working great, I decided to try and get Eurosport in Non-freesat mode.

Immediately, I get German Eurosport on Astra 1.
Great reception...

I then tried looking at other satellites, and found nothing of interest.

So, I deleted all channels, and scanned Astra 1 again.
Loads of channels, but, no Eurosport.

Did a factory reset, scanned again, no luck.

Can anyone help?
To get Astra 1 at 19.2E you must have an offset lnb or 2nd dish with a diseqc switch. You will need to set this up again

http://foxsat-hdr.wikispaces.com/DiSEqC
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Old 26-04-2010, 08:43
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I'm just about to order my hummy aand noticed this exchange and wondered whether this is something that might be of use to me.

I currently have the normal sky octo set up but also have a motorised setup with an echostar tuner. This doesn't currently give me any hd on any of the other sats.

If I were to leave my motorised system parked on astra 1 when resting and connect the loop through from the echostar to the hummy, does this widen the potential uses of the hummy as being a normal freesat recorder but also present additional functions for all the other sats ie hd viewing and potential recording. If so does this present any setup and usage challenges?

In a clumsy way asking whether there's any more function to be gained from the hummy if used in cooperation with my motorised setup?

Thanks,

Jeff
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Old 26-04-2010, 08:56
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I'm just about to order my hummy aand noticed this exchange and wondered whether this is something that might be of use to me.

I currently have the normal sky octo set up but also have a motorised setup with an echostar tuner. This doesn't currently give me any hd on any of the other sats.

If I were to leave my motorised system parked on astra 1 when resting and connect the loop through from the echostar to the hummy, does this widen the potential uses of the hummy as being a normal freesat recorder but also present additional functions for all the other sats ie hd viewing and potential recording. If so does this present any setup and usage challenges?

In a clumsy way asking whether there's any more function to be gained from the hummy if used in cooperation with my motorised setup?

Thanks,

Jeff
Hi Jeff, the hdr in no-freesat mode works pretty well with diseqc but there is a snag with usals and motorised dishes. If you use the usals capability the hdr insists on reverting to single cable mode effectively making it a single tuner freesat recorder, not really ideal
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Old 26-04-2010, 09:27
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Hi Jeff, the hdr in no-freesat mode works pretty well with diseqc but there is a snag with usals and motorised dishes. If you use the usals capability the hdr insists on reverting to single cable mode effectively making it a single tuner freesat recorder, not really ideal
Many thanks for your continued patience with my daft questions.

Not currently having the hummy I'm trying to picture what you've said.

Basically once you've set up the hummy can it easilly switch between modes or is it a complete fresh setup for each temporary change of use. In other words can I move smoothly between simply using it as a single feed HD tuner and normal freesat mode or is it a pain?

Thanks.
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Old 26-04-2010, 09:43
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Many thanks for your continued patience with my daft questions.

Not currently having the hummy I'm trying to picture what you've said.

Basically once you've set up the hummy can it easilly switch between modes or is it a complete fresh setup for each temporary change of use. In other words can I move smoothly between simply using it as a single feed HD tuner and normal freesat mode or is it a pain?

Thanks.
The two modes can't be used at the same time. For recording purposes Freesat mode takes preference. There is no timer recording for start of recording in non-freesat mode. Stored channel's in non-freesat are retained but to access them requires accessing the Settings menu, selecting STB Mode and changing the option from Freesat to non-freesat.

A factory reset starts from scratch so any non-freesat channels stored and diseqc/usals configuration will need serring up gain. Hence the advice to the OP
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Old 26-04-2010, 10:04
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One final question ......

Should I be considering a non-hummy option ie is there a more sophisitcated PVR that I could consider that will give me all of the hummy function - but more - if I added a second cable to my motorised setup - or should I just take the simple route and keep the systems seperate.
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Old 26-04-2010, 10:20
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One final question ......

Should I be considering a non-hummy option ie is there a more sophisitcated PVR that I could consider that will give me all of the hummy function - but more - if I added a second cable to my motorised setup - or should I just take the simple route and keep the systems seperate.
If you want the convenience of the 8 day epg, series and accurate recording then afaik the hdr is the only one that get's anwhere near what you need. Outside this of course there are the enthusiast sat boxes like the icord, dreambox etc
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Old 26-04-2010, 12:07
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Many thanks. Simplicity has it's virtue.
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Old 26-04-2010, 12:24
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To get Astra 1 at 19.2E you must have an offset lnb or 2nd dish with a diseqc switch. You will need to set this up again

http://foxsat-hdr.wikispaces.com/DiSEqC
Thanks Graham,
but I'm confused still.

I had Eurosport on Astra1 and it was perfect.
Later on, it wasn't there.

Forget freesat...
I just want Eurosport, anything else is a bonus.

Do I need an offset lnb, or do I somehow offset my existing lnb?
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Old 26-04-2010, 12:34
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Thanks Graham,
but I'm confused still.

I had Eurosport on Astra1 and it was perfect.
Later on, it wasn't there.

Forget freesat...
I just want Eurosport, anything else is a bonus.

Do I need an offset lnb, or do I somehow offset my existing lnb?
To access Astra1 at 19.2E you need either a dish and lnb pointing at 19.2E or a dish pointing at the normal 28.2/28.5E and either a second lnb offset from the normal position or a special lnb with a 9deg offset called a monoblock.

http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...ort&Submit=Zap

To have got 19.2E you must have one or the other or the dish was installed aligned on the wrong satellites. A diseqc switch allows the tuner to switch lnbs depending on which orbital location the channel it needs comes from.

It's the only way you can get both the normal freesat service from 28.2/28.5E and 19.2E without moving the dish each time

The only other explanation is that you were in fact receiving from 28.2/28.5E and picked up a normally encyrpted channel that was temporarily being transmitted in the clear
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Old 26-04-2010, 13:31
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The only other explanation is that you were in fact receiving from 28.2/28.5E and picked up a normally encyrpted channel that was temporarily being transmitted in the clear
That's the explanation I'm going for. hehe

I believed my hummy, when it said I was getting 90% reception for Astra1.

I've just moved my dish to my left to a strong signal, and scanned again.

My Hummy tells me I haven't got a signal, but it picked up German Eurosport, so I'm kinda happy about that.
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Old 26-04-2010, 22:08
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The hummy won't necessarily recognise there is a signal if it's looking for a transponder on 28.2E which it won't see if the dish is pointed at 19.2E (unless there is an identical transponder on that sat also).
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