No, she said her mum used to do it-which is why she'd carried on doing it herself.

Actually, she said
"I used to hate apples, so my mum put faces on them"

There is no record of Amelia saying she carries it on. That is your assumption.

it seemed pretty clear that was something her mother used to do for her and she was repeating for him as a gesture

That's how I understood it.

Doesn't seem clear at all to me. It's what you assume.
If you remember the doctor just spat out an apple, so why does he accept it, and say I'll save it for later?

because a small girl has made a touching gesture by sharing something her late mother used to do for her

That's exactly why she carved it. Because her mum put faces on apples when she didn't like them, so she reasons that if she puts a face on one, the Doctor will like them.

Of course, the Doctor's not a kid, so he just takes it to be polite.

If the Stolen Earth never happened then Rose wouldnt have come back, there would be no half human half timelord 10th Doctor, Donna wouldnt have had to have her mind cleaned of any memorys involving the Doctor.

True.Not seeing why it's relevant, though.

This might come across as totally out of left field - but hey it's only a theory ....

What if Amy and Rory and various other people in Leadworth are actually Dalek tech ?? The Doctor didn't seem to immediately spot the Dalek tech in VotD.

What if Dorabella is the character played by Annette Crosbie in TEH ? What if Bracewell created a whole village of Dalek Tech robots to cover up say a disaster ? The people of Leadworth are the only people in the "current" time that the 11th Doctor has interfaced with on Earth so far - but what if they weren't really human - would he have been able to tell ? So them not remembering the Daleks may have been part of their programming. Maybe Amy isn't the real Amy at all and is a robotic replacement - but then again perhaps I'm overthinking this.


or perhaps more rationally would Amy remember something that she didn't actually witness because she might have been sedated at the time (I seem to remember she did say she had gone through several psychiatrists in TEH).

It could explain how the technology of Leadworth is ahead of the rest of the world, invented by Bracewell for Leadworth, hence why Rory's badge was issued in 1990. Perhaps Bracewell couldn't find his village in his memory, and created Leadworth to satisfy himself. Could have 'built' Amy based on the Amy that he met?

He would have to build two Amys though,the child and the adult unless dalek tech allows for androids to grow up just like humans do lol.

In the first episode the Doctor says the crack is caused by two bits of time and space that should never meet being pushed together.

So Leadworth is actually 1990 and 2010 being forced together. That is why the Doctor has so much trouble landing at the right point in time.

Space Ship UK is future tech but with "styling" from the Early 20th Century leaking through.

Daleks feel through time and exited near a crack in WWII England. Where the Doctor also had trouble landing at the right point in time.

So Amy doesn't remember the Daleks because part of her is from 1990. It has happened but 1990 is being pushed into 2010. In Leadworth anyway

I'd have to disagree. To really enjoy DW you have to believe it is the real world, albeit the world in which the BBC don't make a certain SF show...

As soon as the show starts depicting the present day general populace being aware of Daleks etc. it becomes hard to suspend disbelief. The same goes for incidents like The Doctor revealing the 'real' proof for Fermat's Last Theorem to Patrick Moore.

Well it's debatable that anything would have happened, since he might have arrived in time to prevent the Master being brought back, but assuming the Master stuff happened, and assuming he repaired himself with the hand instead of regenerating into 11, there's no reason for the meta-crisis to have happened. It took the impending destruction of the TARDIS with Donna onboard and him not onboard to bring that about.

So no 11, no clone Doctor, no Amy.

My assumption though, is that the Dalek invasion did happen, since the Daleks in VOTD were ones who survived that. I expect something has happened/will happen to change memories of it, but we won't find out what happened for a while. I hope that they won't just erase such an important part of continuity.

The only reasonable assumption to be made though, as she has definitely stated she didn't have a mum, only an aunt.

To enjoy DW your way means we have to believe the real world is populated entirely by idiots.

Big, huge, earth-shattering things happen in Doctor Who. Things that kill thousands of people and destroy things like Big Ben. It's different from Heroes, which is constantly hitting reset buttons so things never happen, or V and Flashforward, where a big event happens that changes the world forever. Instead Who has to portray a world where things keep happening, but life goes on. It's most similar to Smallville, which handles the fallout from its monsters quite poorly. I think Doctor Who does an admirable job, for the most part, of dealing with it taking place in a world where these things happen.

And they're probably not far wrong either, in how we would deal with things. While we haven't had any alien invasions (that we know of ), we do have earth-shaking events - the recent earthquakes in Haiti, the volcano in Iceland, terrorist attacks, etc. And while the news channels and papers are full of them, what do most people do? They go to the pub, they watch telly, they go to work, they have sex, eat chips, etc. They continue to lead their lives exactly the way they always have, unless they're directly affected.

I mean really! Let's say your neighbour down the road took a pill and turned into a dozen living fat creatures that floated up to a spaceship. Once you got your head around it and forced yourself to believe it really happened, what would you do? OK, well clearly you'd never take that pill, but would you stop going to work? Not buy a cake for your daughter's birthday? Not go visit your Nan at Christmas? Life goes on pretty much as usual. Always does.

Invisible post above.

I too had a thought that Amy may be a dalek creation but what triggered that off in my head was on Saturday once River had left the Tardis, the doctor said something and she rushed over shouting to him "Explain" it was to me so Dalek like, obviously not the voice of them but it just stuck out to me, and as a Scot I didn't think it would be the choice of words I would have used in keeping to a Scottish Dialect.

Sounded really odd to me, then when River told Amy she was very clever that got me really thinking.

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Erm, no it doesn't require believing the world is populated by idiots. What it requires is a clever script writer...

Yeah Amy does seem very smart... for a kissogram lol

How does one cleverly explain away thousands of people dead?

Mr. Smith can plant false stories about "WiFi gone mad" to explain why everyone looked like that ex-PM who went insane, but when someone's entire family is dead and their house is a smoking ruin, questions will be asked and survivors aren't going to be put off.

When the Earth is invaded by aliens on a massive scale once or twice a year (especially on Christmas), people are going to remember it. You can't just hit a reset button every time.

Doctor Who's script writers are among the cleverest in the business. But it's in a unique position. Other shows don't do massive alien invasions all the time.

Not if the child Amy was the real one and the later one was the replacement !

You'd have to be pretty clever to make a living as a kissogram in a tiny village where everyone knows you.

Not having Amy's family in the script does not mean anything. After all, we never saw Jo's family, or Sarah's, or Harry's, or Tegan's, or.... etc. Having families involved is an RTD thing, and Moffat is clearly trying to keep clear of RTD's thing.