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What was the revelation?
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BaileyBigIdiot
26-04-2010
Steven Moffat said in an interview that their would be a massive revelation in the Victory of the Daleks but you would have to watch it back to get it, does anyone know what it was?

Sorry if it was really obvious and i never got it or if there is already a thread about it.
Solid60
26-04-2010
That Amy hadn't heard of the Daleks?
Sorry
26-04-2010
The Daleks served tea?
BaileyBigIdiot
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by Solid60:
“That Amy hadn't heard of the Daleks?”

I thought that but why would you have to watch it back again to get that as it was very obvious.
17@17
26-04-2010
I assumed it was that the Daleks made Bracewell, not the other way around...
Solid60
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by BaileyBigIdiot:
“I thought that but why would you have to watch it back again to get that as it was very obvious.”

Ah, see your point. Sorry.
Abomination
26-04-2010
Moffat said this about The Beast Below, not Victory of the Daleks, but I am still clueless as to what this revelation is.
Solid60
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Moffat said this about The Beast Below, not Victory of the Daleks, but I am still clueless as to what this revelation is. ”

Ooh, not sure I'm up for watching that back just now, I'll let someone else do the donkey work
Abomination
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by Solid60:
“Ooh, not sure I'm up for watching that back just now, I'll let someone else do the donkey work”

I managed to watch it again, and found it was better on second viewing as I grasped the story a lot better, not that I didnt get the gist of it first time around. But I still found no revelation.
BaileyBigIdiot
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Moffat said this about The Beast Below, not Victory of the Daleks, but I am still clueless as to what this revelation is. ”

Sorry, i thought it was Victory of the Daleks
Kapellmeister
26-04-2010
The crack?
BibaNova
26-04-2010
Was it the Daleks going back to their "own time" to rebuild and/or Amy not knowing them? Maybe they've been back and changed Amys future so none of the Journeys end etc has happened.
Abomination
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“The crack?”

Nah, the crack was at the end of the episode on the side of the Starship.

No worries Bailey, either way, we are still no closer to figuring out the identity of this so called revelation. Maybe we are all so brilliant it is something we all noticed and took for granted the first time around
DavyMan1961
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Moffat said this about The Beast Below, not Victory of the Daleks, but I am still clueless as to what this revelation is. ”

The computer should have given Amy's age at the time of her death, but she hadn't died; it also said she'd never married.
Abomination
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by DavyMan1961:
“The computer should have given Amy's age at the time of her death, but she hadn't died; it also said she'd never married.”

I had a feeling it was definitely concerning the scene with Amy in the booth, although I noticed both of these first time around too. Maybe it was the fact that the computer said Amy was so many years old, but that it was not possible for her to be that age as it does not total the number in question if you go forward to the 29th Century- that is, unless Amy is from our past.
mdovey
26-04-2010
At the beginning of the episode the Doctor claims it is the 29 century, but the booth claims her age is 1306.

Matthew
Abomination
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by mdovey:
“At the beginning of the episode the Doctor claims it is the 29 century, but the booth claims her age is 1306, hence implying that Amy was born in the 27th or 28th century.

Matthew”

Do you mean the 17th or 18th Century???? Oooooh, she could be Madame de Pompadour!!!!!
TwEeD.NK
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by mdovey:
“At the beginning of the episode the Doctor claims it is the 29 century, but the booth claims her age is 1306.

Matthew”

No he claims humans depart earth in the 29th century because of the solar flares. Starship UK been flyin' for more than 200 years since then
11's Bow Tie
26-04-2010
Originally Posted by DavyMan1961:
“The computer should have given Amy's age at the time of her death, but she hadn't died; it also said she'd never married.”

It said her marital status to be "unknown".
11's Bow Tie
26-04-2010
If its The Beast Below, there is a reproduction of the Queen Vic from Eastenders on the Starship UK and Eastenders is a TV show in the Doctor Who Universe as seen in Army of Ghosts and is therefor fictional, so the revelation is that "Dimensions in Time" is canon and Ledworth is in fact the Land of Fiction from "The Mind Robber". ()
Corwin
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by mdovey:
“At the beginning of the episode the Doctor claims it is the 29 century, but the booth claims her age is 1306.

Matthew”

It was the 29th Century when the Solar flares made Earth uninhabitable but the Beast below takes place aprox 300 years after this.


Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Moffat said this about The Beast Below, not Victory of the Daleks, but I am still clueless as to what this revelation is. ”

Are you sure?

Not seen the original statement but I read elsewhere that it was VotD he said this for.

There is something in VotD that you see (or rather don't see) at about the half hour mark (which is where SM said it was I believe) that you would only realise is significant on a 2nd viewing.

It's that the crack in the wall only appears as Amy leaves, when the Doctor flies the TARDIS to the Dalek ship the crack isn't in the wall.

So either the crack only appears when Amy leaves a time period or possibly when the TARDIS leaves a time period.
crazzyaz7
27-04-2010
It was definitely the Dalek episode that Moff said that we will want to keep rewinding again and again....there were at least one or two interviews out there...just tried to look for them, but no luck so far....but I know he definitely said VOTD.


As for what it was in the Dalek story....I have no clue, I have watched that story three times now, there is nothing in there that makes me want to rewind....so its either a very subtle thing....or whatever it was, it wasn't that interesting...
CAMERA OBSCURA
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“As for what it was in the Dalek story....I have no clue, I have watched that story three times now, there is nothing in there that makes me want to rewind....so its either a very subtle thing....or whatever it was, it wasn't that interesting...”

Thinking back the only thing that jumped out at the time is when Amy is 'comforting' Dalek robot bomb guy when he is coming to terms with being a robot, just after he has his hand shot off, she says 'I know how you feel'.

Or something like that, maybe Ive remembered it wrong and out of context and more than likely it has nothing to do with nothing
crazzyaz7
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by CAMERA OBSCURA:
“Thinking back the only thing that jumped out at the time is when Amy is 'comforting' Dalek robot bomb guy when he is coming to terms with being a robot, just after he has his hand shot off, she says 'I know how you feel'.

Or something like that, maybe Ive remembered it wrong and out of context and more than likely it has nothing to do with nothing”


Of the top of my head I don't remember any "know the feeling" line, but when Bracewell is about to kill himslef, Amy says to him that she understands...is that the scene you mean?
WebbieOTW
27-04-2010
Originally Posted by mdovey:
“At the beginning of the episode the Doctor claims it is the 29 century, but the booth claims her age is 1306.

Matthew”

Is it possible that her actual age is 1306 (or 8) and this in not to do with her being in the future?
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