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Bottom 2: Saturday 1st May
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tiddleboo
28-04-2010
Heres a question for you this bright April morning:

Will this week's botom 2 be Jessica and Jenny, or will somebody be bottom 2 for the second time?
SRack88
28-04-2010
I'm hoping jess will escape again but support seems to be a bit limited on these forum sites which tells you sooner rather than later shes gonna be in there, i reckon jess & jenny aswell, but the bookies say sophies odds on....
tiddleboo
28-04-2010
I would love Jess to survive to the final, where we would see a lot more of her doing Mt songs. Alas, Emilies wonderful MT performances didn't make up for the below parr pop songs.
This is the first ALW series where the bottom 2 has yet to include a previous bottom two-er so God only knows who it will be this week. To be fair though, Sophie was bad at her pop last week. The viewers seem to be voting for the vocals rather than the acting in each performance, which doesn't bode well for Jess does it?
tiddleboo
28-04-2010
Welcome to the forum by the way x
Surfer2010
28-04-2010
Hi
I think Sophie might be the first one to be a bottom 2 again - but having said that, I think some of the others (most particularly Danielle) were in the bottom 2 because people thought they were safe & so didn't bother to vote. So Sophie might be safe as it might have spurred on her fans
However, if it were on talent (recognising that they are all pretty talented by this stage) so comparatively on talent - it should be Jenny & Sophie in the bottom 2 this week.
If it were, I reckon ALW would probably save Sophie - not sure Jenny can act that well
FantasticMrFox
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by SRack88:
“I'm hoping jess will escape again but support seems to be a bit limited on these forum sites which tells you sooner rather than later shes gonna be in there, i reckon jess & jenny aswell, but the bookies say sophies odds on....”

If this forum has taught me anything its that the general public tends not to agree with Digital Spy forum users.
tiddleboo
28-04-2010
Nobody agrees with us. We don't even agree with us
henman
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by tiddleboo:
“Heres a question for you this bright April morning:

Will this week's botom 2 be Jessica and Jenny, or will somebody be bottom 2 for the second time?”

I think as a solo performer Sophie struggles. I think she will be bottom 2 again.

I also think Jenny is being directed towards the exit for some reason - so I anticipate those to in the bottom 2.

However I'm not so sure many people are voting, so it could actually be anyone!
ImOnlyWee
28-04-2010
I hope Jessica survives...it actually be great if she ended up the only one not in the bottom 2! Not in a bad way for the other girls but just because she's not really liked on here...you know.
SRack88
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by ImOnlyWee:
“I hope Jessica survives...it actually be great if she ended up the only one not in the bottom 2! Not in a bad way for the other girls but just because she's not really liked on here...you know.”

totally agree, it would be nice if she made the final at least, she doesnt seem to have that much support on here, so us select few need to fly the flag
ImOnlyWee
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by SRack88:
“totally agree, it would be nice if she made the final at least, she doesnt seem to have that much support on here, so us select few need to fly the flag ”

Yes!
Strictly_Irish
28-04-2010
Hopefully Stephanie and Lauren.
SnoopMK
28-04-2010
At this point, the voting has gone so strangely that I don't rule out anything. As a matter of fact, I half-expect Stephanie to be bottom 2 this week for reasons similar to what I think was a major factor in Danielle's being there two weeks ago (everyone thinks she's safe). Here's a bit of a breakdown:

1. Sophie (most recent bottom 2). Unless she really screws up her song, she will be safe. She has lots of fans, and they will be voting like mad.

2. Danielle--Most likely also safe. Her fans got woken up 2 weeks ago and the little stunt the producers did with reading the results last week will keep them that way.

3. Steph--She seems to be gaining popularity, so I am inclined to think she's safe, but if she slips up in her song this week, she could possibly be in danger.

4. Lauren--She also seems to be gaining fans, but I think she's the most vulnerable of the "Bottom Two Blues" club. If she doesn't nail her song this week, she could end up bottom 2.

Now to the contestants who haven't been in the bottom 2 yet:

1. Jessica--I have no idea about her. She's been down in performance level for the past three weeks, but she's still safe, so she probably has a big fanbase. Still, people may start to tire of her if she doesn't step it up.

2. Stephanie--She's the perceived audience favorite now, but I still don't think she's out of danger. A mediocre performance this week could endanger her, as could the "safety factor" of people just assuming she's OK and not bothering to vote.

3. Jenny--She is the most vulnerable, I think. She's had weird songs and the judges have laid off on the praise, so I won't be surprised if she's bottom 2 this week.

Based on this analysis, my best guess for the bottom 2 this week is Jenny and either Stephanie, Lauren or Steph, but as I've noted before, logic doesn't seem to be a very good predictor of this game this time around, so there is plenty of room for doubt.
Clarkia
28-04-2010
Jessica and Jenny for the bottom two. I am pretty sure that ALW would save Jessica though.
elder7uk
28-04-2010
I think a more interesting Discussion is from the top three.Pretty much accepted as Danielle,Stephanie and Lauren,who could be a shock exit? In what circumstances might this occur? Which of them is vulnerable?

One presumes that if either of the top three are bottom with Sophie,Jenny or Jessica? then they will be safe.It will be noticeable however if it is Danielle or Lauren as ALW would have saved them twice.This might result in a backlash.

I query Jessica just in case she has a blinder and the other one of the three has a poor week.I don't think he has ruled her out yet.

More intersting is Steph,because ALW has clearly indicated he does'nt see her as a Dorothy,yet she is popular.If she finishes in the bottom two,with Danielle,Stephanie or Lauren I think she goes.Again a backlash.

Then again if her and Jessica remain popular,and either two of the three girls have a bit of a downer,the vote could be split in such a way that the Lord is forced to see one of them take the moon walk.

Who is the most vulnerable given each of these scenarios.My guess,without going into long protracted discussion is Danielle.

If this happened,the whole competion would be thrown wide open,as the likelihood of snow in Summer would be easier to predict.
ImOnlyWee
28-04-2010
Surely the top 3 really are the ones that haven't been in the bottom 2? They may not be popular on here but they haven't been there so...
the...doctor
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by ImOnlyWee:
“Surely the top 3 really are the ones that haven't been in the bottom 2? They may not be popular on here but they haven't been there so...”

Not necessarily, one of them could have been third from bottom each week, while Steph & Lauren might have been in the top 3-4 for the last two weeks.

Going back to the OP, my guess is it will be out of Jenny, Sophie & Jessica unless one of them does something brilliant this week. But the way the voting has gone it could be anyone.
mirandaweb
28-04-2010
I like Jessica but I think she's living on borrowed time now and is likely to wind up in the bottom two.

I think Jenny, though maybe not ideal for Dorothy, has a good voice and I think (and hope) that she'll avoid the bottom two this week.

I think Sophie will probably get a boost in votes from having been bottom two last week.

I suspect Lauren is the most likely candidate to be joining Jessica. She is very talented but, not right for Dorothy (or any other protagonist role) in my opinion. The boost in votes from the story of her hearing problems last week is unlikely to survive into this week as well.

So, unless one of the other girls really messes up her song, I suspect we're looking at a Lauren/Jessica bottom two and I think ALW would save Lauren unless, perhaps, she had the lowest number of votes - whereby he might decide that even though she has the experience, she might not be a big enough draw.
Surfer2010
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by elder7uk:
“Who is the most vulnerable given each of these scenarios.My guess,without going into long protracted discussion is Danielle.”

Oh go on. Go into the long protracted discussion. I am intrigued by your comment.
the...doctor
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by mirandaweb:
“I suspect Lauren is the most likely candidate to be joining Jessica. She is very talented but, not right for Dorothy (or any other protagonist role) in my opinion. The boost in votes from the story of her hearing problems last week is unlikely to survive into this week as well. ”

I think any boost Lauren has had will be due to her last two performances - not sure the back story will have made much difference, though more people may be warming to her as a person. But saying that it won't really surprise me if any of my top four end up in the bottom two.
mirandaweb
28-04-2010
The problem I think Lauren faces is that she doesn't have the quality you need for a protagonist - the vibe that makes you empathise with them and care what happens to the character. That wide-eyed gazing out into the distance 'I have a dream' vibe.

Regardless of her personality as herself (and she might be a lovely girl) - as a character, she is more suited to playing the bitchy rival than the likeable heroine. The only heroine type roles she might be able to pull off are anti-heroine ones like Elphiba in Wicked where the plot makes a point of the heroine being disliked by many. Or maybe Roxy in Chicago.

I think this is going to prove a problem for her in a competition based on audience votes as, however well she sings (and she sings extremely well) - she isn't going to get more votes than someone who can sing almost as well but who appeals more to the audience.
henman
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by mirandaweb:
“The problem I think Lauren faces is that she doesn't have the quality you need for a protagonist - the vibe that makes you empathise with them and care what happens to the character. That wide-eyed gazing out into the distance 'I have a dream' vibe.

Regardless of her personality as herself (and she might be a lovely girl) - as a character, she is more suited to playing the bitchy rival than the likeable heroine. The only heroine type roles she might be able to pull off are anti-heroine ones like Elpheba in Wicked where the plot makes a point of the heroine being disliked by many.

I think this is going to prove a problem for her in a competition based on audience votes as, however well she sings (and she sings extremely well) - she isn't going to get more votes than someone who can sing almost as well but who appeals more to the audience.”

Interseting view. I disagree. I warm to Lauren much more than to danielle, for instance. I accept that this may be a minority view (or it may not). And I think she's the best singer.

But I do sense that a lot of people don't warm to her, which is why I think Stephanie will win,
mirandaweb
28-04-2010
Danielle is my favourite but I can see her also suffering when it comes to votes because she is clearly someone who feels things much much more on the inside than the outside - which causes her problems with people who think that, unless she cries floods of tears at every opportunity she must be cold.

Danielle does have the protagonist vibe and I think she'd be fantastic as a movie actress. I just don't know if (a) enough people will 'get' her personality in terms of her understated displays of emotion when we're used to reality TV contestants who are larger than life & (b) if she'd come across large/well enough on stage to captivate the back row of the gods who can't see her face.

I'd love her to win but I think it's going to be Stephanie as well!
henman
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by mirandaweb:
“Danielle is my favourite but I can see her also suffering when it comes to votes because she is clearly someone who feels things much much more on the inside than the outside - which causes her problems with people who think that, unless she cries floods of tears at every opportunity she must be cold.

Danielle does have the protagonist vibe and I think she'd be fantastic as a movie actress. I just don't know if (a) enough people will 'get' her personality in terms of her understated displays of emotion when we're used to reality TV contestants who are larger than life & (b) if she'd come across large/well enough on stage to captivate the back row of the gods who can't see her face.

I'd love her to win but I think it's going to be Stephanie as well!”

See I think there is more of a problem than you see. I have no interest in 'larger than life' people. I prefer understated. I just feel, personally, no warmth emanating from Danielle when she performs - which you do see in the VTS to be fair. That's why I struggle to understand what a number of people seem to be seeing! So I think there's more to it than needing to be 'larger than life'
xlifeisasongx
28-04-2010
I personally think it will be Sophie and Jessica in the bottom this week. I don't think Sophie's on the same level as the rest of the girls anymore, and I think the public are going off Jessica rapidly. We shall see, though.
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