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The Eleventh Hours sercret Thingy
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bringonthewall
28-04-2010
Maybe the "Why aren't there any ducks?" is the new "Why are the bees disappearing?"
fastest finger
28-04-2010
the apple with the face on.. did her mum do that? if so, why isn't it mouldy by now?

Or the date on badge?

There's sometning wrong with the flow of time.

I think that's why Amy didn't remember the Daleks, that hasn't happened yet.

The Doctor assumes it is 21st centuary due to the technology etc, but it's actually only the early 90's
Gogfumble
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“the apple with the face on.. did her mum do that? if so, why isn't it mouldy by now?”

Amy did that who then gave it to the doctor. There was no mould/it hadn't gone brown as he was only gone (with the apple) for a few minutes even if it was 12 years for Amy.
fastest finger
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by Gogfumble:
“Amy did that who then gave it to the doctor. There was no mould/it hadn't gone brown as he was only gone (with the apple) for a few minutes even if it was 12 years for Amy.”

Ahh, her mum did it 'cos she didn't like them, so now Any's doing the same for the Doctor because he didn't either. That makes sense.
johnnysaucepn
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“Ahh, her mum did it 'cos she didn't like them, so now Any's doing the same for the Doctor because he didn't either. That makes sense.”

Yes, and for the purposes of the plot, the fact that a carved apple would turn brown and mouldy in a few minutes is what proves to Amy that not only can the Doctor travel in time, he really has only been gone five minutes. From his perspective.
OncomingStorm
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“the apple with the face on.. did her mum do that? if so, why isn't it mouldy by now?

Or the date on badge?

There's sometning wrong with the flow of time.

I think that's why Amy didn't remember the Daleks, that hasn't happened yet.

The Doctor assumes it is 21st centuary due to the technology etc, but it's actually only the early 90's”

Did anybody else think that the apple face looked just a tiny bit like a cyber-face?
johnnysaucepn
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by OncomingStorm:
“Did anybody else think that the apple face looked just a tiny bit like a cyber-face?”

I think it looks more like the Rani.
CheeseyDude1337
28-04-2010
I reckon it is this; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1249791
JCR
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by CheeseyDude1337:
“I reckon it is this; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1249791”

The Radio Times preview mentions a puzzle box (as well as a message on the oldest cliff in the universe and love that lasts thousands of years). I think the Pandorica is a box.
Abomination
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by JCR:
“The Radio Times preview mentions a puzzle box (as well as a message on the oldest cliff in the universe and love that lasts thousands of years). I think the Pandorica is a box.”

I think the Pandorica may be some form of prison, if not then I believe it to be some kind of box. The way Prisoner Zero talked about the Pandorica opening led me to believe that it (the Pandorica) was the prison on the other side of the crack- why else would Prisoner Zero have any idea about the larger events at hand unless it is mildly telepathic or psychic?

I think that we will learn that the Pandorica is the prison seen inside the crack from TEH. We will see this in Flesh and Stone this Saturday, I think. I think the Pandorica will open at
Spoiler
just incase, I spoilered this bit Stonehenge in the finale
11's Bow Tie
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Well there was that shot appearing to show a tardis (breaks on) arriving while young Amelia sat on her case....”

Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“That was Amy dreaming. Unless you're suggesting that she really is just seven, and she's dreaming of growing up and meeting the Doctor as an adult?”

Dreaming is also mentioned in "The Time of Angel's" (River read's a passage from the book about the Angels) and in "Amy's Choice"
Spoiler
there is a character called The Dream Lord, who is dressed liked Doc11
CheeseyDude1337
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“I think that we will learn that the Pandorica is the prison seen inside the crack from TEH. We will see this in Flesh and Stone this Saturday, I think. I think the Pandorica will open at
Spoiler
just incase, I spoilered this bit Stonehenge in the finale
”

So River Song is sent to the Pandorica, then in the Finale the Pandorica opens and she returns! Who Da Man!

(That was my idea btw. He improved it )
moonstone25
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by 11's Bow Tie:
“Dreaming is also mentioned in "The Time of Angel's" (River read's a passage from the book about the Angels)”

Yes what on earth was that bit about dreams becoming real then will come the time of angels? It obviously makes the title of the episode, yet I've rewatched it a couple of times, and I still have no idea what that passage means. Is this all going to turn out to be one big dream or something?
johnnysaucepn
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by moonstone25:
“Yes what on earth was that bit about dreams becoming real then will come the time of angels? It obviously makes the title of the episode, yet I've rewatched it a couple of times, and I still have no idea what that passage means. Is this all going to turn out to be one big dream or something?”

It may be a reference to Amy - her dreams have become real by meeting the Doctor, and it's through her they're going to return. Or it may be that the image of the Angel inside your head when you're dreaming itself becomes an Angel.
Fizzbin
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“the apple with the face on.. did her mum do that? if so, why isn't it mouldy by now?”

Indeed, as she's an orphan.


Could be a bit like Zoe Slater perhaps...

Who do you think you are Auntie? You aint my muvva!

Yes I am!
bobatron83
29-04-2010
Just rewatched TEH and noticed that in the holgram video sphere thing that the Atraxi make on the roof you clearly see the Dalexs in Doomsday which doesn't really match up with Amy not remembering the Daleks in VOTD.
johnnysaucepn
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by bobatron83:
“Just rewatched TEH and noticed that in the holgram video sphere thing that the Atraxi make on the roof you clearly see the Dalexs in Doomsday which doesn't really match up with Amy not remembering the Daleks in VOTD.”

I don't think the Daleks were out of the Genesis Ark long enough for the general public to be aware of them?

I think the big revelation is that there is, indeed, a point where Amy's life depends on knowing that the Doctor really is a madman in a box.
JCR
29-04-2010
Noticed this in the new DWM also:

Enjoy it while you can, Doctor! The Pandorica is opening! The last of the Time Lords shall fall, and every star with him...
Ilzairspar
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“I don't think the Daleks were out of the Genesis Ark long enough for the general public to be aware of them?

I think the big revelation is that there is, indeed, a point where Amy's life depends on knowing that the Doctor really is a madman in a box.”

I think it all has to do with those stupid cracks. Yes it did happen, but perhaps it didn't happen YET for her village. It's all wibbly wobbly timey wimey after all.

A village with camera phones that still uses 1980 style radios with cassette slots. (I swear I think I had one of those when I was like 6, felt like I was seeing my dad's old 8-track deck) With laptops with video cams but has televisions from the 1990's.

Then again, she was an old lady, perhaps she didn't want to get rid of her old TV.

It also could have been SM's way of showing us that Amy was from BUFU, but I just don't think so.
Loracan1
29-04-2010
I reckon he's got some backstory about the shed the tardis crashes into in Amy's garden - it'll be some portal to another world.
Evil Genius
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“That was Amy dreaming. Unless you're suggesting that she really is just seven, and she's dreaming of growing up and meeting the Doctor as an adult?”


Any kid who dreams of being a kissogram when they are an adult would have to be a bit mental.
HappyTrucker
29-04-2010
The 'different timeline' approach that people seem to taking was my first thought (e.g. Rory's badge being issued in 1990, theory that The Doctor thought he was in modern day due to the mobile phones etc). After all, when I watched TEH I noticed that all the cars etc were P,R,W,V,Y registrations - a bit old. I could understand a couple of older vehicles in the village but all of them? Even the ambulance and fire engine were older registrations. These registrations take us to 2000 with Y (I think) so it still doesn't tie in with the 1990 date on Rory's badge.

Then when I watched again, I saw one 05 plate red sports car

That either blew my theory away or was a continuity error......or Leadworth is in 2005. Or.....oh I give up.
JCR
30-04-2010
Fairly large spoiler:

Spoiler
This is a photo of Amelia and the Doctor in the finale: http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/q...m/DSCF1533.jpg They are going to the Natural History museum space anomalies exhibition, apparently.
Ja88ed
30-04-2010
Spoiler
Pretty sure that's not the Doctor. More like her Aunt or Mother
icemetallica8
30-04-2010
Originally Posted by Ja88ed:
“
Spoiler
Pretty sure that's not the Doctor. More like her Aunt or Mother
”

Doctor wouldnt wear trainers.
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