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DTs regeneration to MS a bit wierd or not??
pongobilly
28-04-2010
with regards to 11th hour, what i find strange is that the regeneration from doc10 was made to be huge, causing the massive damage to the tardis, but how come doc11 didnt seem to have many side effecs post regeneration, the regeneration of doc9 to doc10 left the doctor in bed almost all of the episode, im just wondering if somethings not right with the doctor post regeneration, which is causing all the weird arc thingy, wouldnt it be a big shock if at some point the doctor reveals he hasnt finished regenerating yet or something along those lines
Craig //
28-04-2010
I've not watched anything before the revival so how did regenerations effect the others? Is it not different each time?
daveyboy7472
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by pongobilly:
“with regards to 11th hour, what i find strange is that the regeneration from doc10 was made to be huge, causing the massive damage to the tardis, but how come doc11 didnt seem to have many side effecs post regeneration, the regeneration of doc9 to doc10 left the doctor in bed almost all of the episode, im just wondering if somethings not right with the doctor post regeneration, which is causing all the weird arc thingy, wouldnt it be a big shock if at some point the doctor reveals he hasnt finished regenerating yet or something along those lines”

If you look back over the past regenations, The Doctor's post regenerative behaviour have varied. The second and fourth Doctor's didn't suffer too badly but the fifth and sixth was a bit excessive. Even the third Doctor had a couple of episodes before he became stable. Guess it comes down to how much the production team at the time have wanted to dive straight into the debut story concerned.
Gogfumble
28-04-2010
Regenerating is different and unpredictable each time.

It could be that because the actual regeneration was so 'forceful' all the excess energy was expelled during the process. So there wasn't much left to cause bad side effects. Just a little bit of energy left to expel and his food cravings.
Hup_73
28-04-2010
I think the lack of a regular and well-known companion to carry the episode was probably high in the Moff's mind in his decision to have MS up and running at the start of the episode.
CD93
28-04-2010
Fair enough, 9 absorbed the Time Vortex.

10 absorbed some radiation. 10 mentioned something had gone wrong when 9 regenerated so...
pongobilly
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by Hup_73:
“I think the lack of a regular and well-known companion to carry the episode was probably high in the Moff's mind in his decision to have MS up and running at the start of the episode.”

MS isnt any more well known than KG???
Gogfumble
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by pongobilly:
“MS isnt any more well known than KG???”

I think the poster meant to the series, not in general.

Rose was already an established character and could carry an episode. Whereas the doctor and companion were both different this time round.
Hup_73
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by pongobilly:
“MS isnt any more well known than KG???”

True, but the Doctor as a character is well established. IMO I just that think that Moff would have viewed it a bit high risk to the majority of episode without any established characters to carry the episode. With DT's regeneration RTD knew he already had Rose for the audience to relate to - and even included in both Jackie and Micky in the mix as back up.
Hup_73
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by Gogfumble:
“I think the poster meant to the series, not in general.

Rose was already an established character and could carry an episode. Whereas the doctor and companion were both different this time round.”

Exactly what I meant!
justine01
28-04-2010
My personal hunch is that something DID go wrong with this regeneration. Whether it was the internal resistance of Ten ("I don't wanna go!") or whether there is some Doctor DNA somewhere related to Amy/crack in the skin of the universe that caused the TARDIS to blow up etc., I am sure we will find out.

But I don't think it was an coincidence that the Doctor crashed in Amelia's front garden; I am expecting a link/an explanation for this in one of the episodes to come
NewbieCanuck
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by Gogfumble:
“I think the poster meant to the series, not in general.

Rose was already an established character and could carry an episode. Whereas the doctor and companion were both different this time round.”

Plus we also had Jackie, Mickey and Harriet Jones, Prime Minister, so not only did we have an established character, she had established characters to interact with.

It's really best to compare the episode to Rose, the last one that introduced a Doctor and companion at the same time. And in that one while there were hints that Nine had recently regenerated, they didn't dwell on it. Of course that episode was also introducing (to many, if not most of the viewers) the whole concept of Doctor Who as well.
alphonsus
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by Gogfumble:
“I think the poster meant to the series, not in general.

Rose was already an established character and could carry an episode. Whereas the doctor and companion were both different this time round.”

Yes, having the lead character unconscious in bed for the first 3/4 of their first episode would be a silly idea ...
mach2001
28-04-2010
I thought that he had a couple of moments of weirdness (after was by the duck pond) but he said the cricket bat round the head was just what he needed.
Vabosity
28-04-2010
Originally Posted by mach2001:
“I thought that he had a couple of moments of weirdness (after was by the duck pond) but he said the cricket bat round the head was just what he needed.”

I don't remember him saying that, but I'll take your word for it. I suppose the cricket bat to Eleven was like the tea was to Ten in The Christmas Invasion.
johnnysaucepn
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by mach2001:
“I thought that he had a couple of moments of weirdness (after was by the duck pond) but he said the cricket bat round the head was just what he needed.”

I think he was being sarcastic. "Oh, that's much better. Brand new me. Whack on the head, just what it needed'.
Talma
29-04-2010
The 5th Doctor nearly didn't make it through regeneration but we did get the wonderful scene of him wandering through the TARDIS rediscovering it and unravelling the scarf
tysonstorm
29-04-2010
My personal opinion is that it's down to production budgets and the like.

However my inner nerd suggest that it's getting more aggressive towards his final lives. IIRC he has 13 lives so maybe come his 13th and final regeneration he will emit a thermo-nuclear explosion.
Krypton_Kal
29-04-2010
Eleven did a few spaz attacks through-out episode 1, that's the regeneration process.
CheeseyDude1337
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“My personal opinion is that it's down to production budgets and the like.

However my inner nerd suggest that it's getting more aggressive towards his final lives. IIRC he has 13 lives so maybe come his 13th and final regeneration he will emit a thermo-nuclear explosion. ”

That sounds right, IMO
JAS84
29-04-2010
Something wasn't right with 11 after his regeneration - he walked into a tree!
Doctor Why
29-04-2010
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“However my inner nerd suggest that it's getting more aggressive towards his final lives. IIRC he has 13 lives so maybe come his 13th and final regeneration he will emit a thermo-nuclear explosion. ”

He hasn't got 13 lives, he has many more. Just you wait and see...
Sharon87
30-04-2010
Originally Posted by Doctor Why:
“He hasn't got 13 lives, he has many more. Just you wait and see... ”

Yep, the script writes and execs will write their way around that rule... probably because the timelords are gone and it was their rule as oppose to biological. Or maybe they were given 13 more regenerations during the time war so they could win!
tysonstorm
30-04-2010
Originally Posted by Doctor Why:
“He hasn't got 13 lives, he has many more. Just you wait and see... ”

Yeah true, they'll probably have some sort of resurrection/reset planned like they did with The Master.
crazzyaz7
30-04-2010
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“Yeah true, they'll probably have some sort of resurrection/reset planned like they did with The Master.”

Hasn't the Master always been at the end of his regeneration cycle (untill the new series) and always found a way to come back...or try to come back....and none of those were always the same? Although I don't beleive that Doctor would do anything as naughty like the Master did...stealing other people's bodies....but I am sure that they can just come up with a quick line and put an end to all that speculation....in fact its very much rumoured to be answerd by none other than
Spoiler
RTD in the SJA story he is writing!!! And Jo Grant is coming back!!!


Yeah cannot wait!!!
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