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| Susan |
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8 | 5.67% |
| Jamie and Zoe |
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7 | 4.96% |
| Sarah Jane |
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10 | 7.09% |
| Peri |
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20 | 14.18% |
| Rose |
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3 | 2.13% |
| Captain Jack |
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19 | 13.48% |
| Donna |
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22 | 15.60% |
| Someone else |
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52 | 36.88% |
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My statement stands. To be robbed of those experiences . . .
As I said Jack was the one who was quite deliberately and coldly treated badly by The Doctor, and that I think marks him out from anyone else on that list. |
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Jamie and Zoe had their memories wiped and were forced to return to their own eras with no memory of their time with the Doctor . . as did Donna forty years later! |
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to be fair that wasn't really the doctor's fault, he had been captured by the time lords and couldn't really do anything about it.
1. The companion worst treated by the Doctor. 2. The companion worst treated by the scriptwriters. |
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Jack did get a raw deal,mainly because it wasn't his fault he became immortal. The Doctor's reaction to him never sat well with me. Martha had a tough time on the show and with fans, it kinda makes her my favourite.
Ace is interesting, didn't one of the novels suggest that she became a Timelord? |
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Jack did get a raw deal,mainly because it wasn't his fault he became immortal. The Doctor's reaction to him never sat well with me. Martha had a tough time on the show and with fans, it kinda makes her my favourite.
Ace is interesting, didn't one of the novels suggest that she became a Timelord? |
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Cool I'll have to watch that again. i liked Ace and she is the most unlikely companion to become a Timelord. That why it works
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Adric probably. Although he did deserve it as he was an annoying scrote.
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SJS left of her own accord.
Jo left of her own accord. The details of Peri are sketchy but didn't she also fall in love and leave of her own accord? I Wasn't familiar with this Dodo character but after reading up on her, she gets my vote. But with a name like that she was doomed from the start. |
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SJS left of her own accord.
Jo left of her own accord. The details of Peri are sketchy but didn't she also fall in love and leave of her own accord? I Wasn't familiar with this Dodo character but after reading up on her, she gets my vote. But with a name like that she was doomed from the start.
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Sorry I just cannot remember names very well ![]() . I think Donna was treated badly. Sarah Jane was not leaving on her own account, the doctor had to return to Gallifrey and couldn't take her with him. She definitely was waiting for him to return.
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Actually, if you believe the novels to be canon, then Mel wasn't treated very well either.
In the TV story Dragonfire, she voluntarily decides to discontinue travelling with the Doctor to go off instead with Sabalom Glitz (which seems like a very odd thing to do). However, in one of the novels (forget the title - I read it years ago) we discover that the Seventh Doctor had "psychically persuaded" her to "volunteer" to leave him so that he could pursue the story arc concerning Ace and Fenric etc. Quote:
The details of Peri are sketchy but didn't she also fall in love and leave of her own accord?
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I Wasn't familiar with this Dodo character but after reading up on her, she gets my vote. But with a name like that she was doomed from the start. |
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In Death Comes to Time, which was an audio made for the bbc website, Ace was a timelord, and if there had been a season 27 in 1990 it's likely Ace would have become a Timelord on screen. Big Finish are adapting possible season 27 stories for audio later this year, so it's likely to happen there as well.
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Actually, if you believe the novels to be canon, then Mel wasn't treated very well either.
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BF won't be recording the scripts as they were written - the story you refer to (the Season 27 opener; original title "Earth Aid") now features a new companion. So, no Time Lord Ace!
Mel was killed in the BBC PDA "Heritage". ![]()
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Ace was one of my favourites
![]() Sorry. I get possessive
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BF won't be recording the scripts as they were written - the story you refer to (the Season 27 opener; original title "Earth Aid") now features a new companion. So, no Time Lord Ace!
Mel was killed in the BBC PDA "Heritage". ![]() |
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Maybe then this thread should be split into two:-
1. The companion worst treated by the Doctor. 2. The companion worst treated by the scriptwriters. By the scriptwriters? Martha Jones- nuff said, they made her story so predictable in the third series. I do also have a soft spot for Donna though. I love the fact that they dared to be more ambitious with the companions exit this time around, but Donna was awesome!!!! ![]() As for worst treated companion by the Doctor, I would say Jack at the end of The Parting of the Ways and in Utopia. Still, it bit the Doctor on the bottom, as running away from Jack in Utopia is exactly what led him to The Master.... ![]()
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. Still, it bit the Doctor on the bottom, as running away from Jack in Utopia is exactly what led him to The Master....
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I voted Martha (Someone else). Her whole family turned upside down, lived through a year of hell, the Doctor never saw her in the way she wanted him too...poor Martha!
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As for worst treated companion by the Doctor, I would say Jack at the end of The Parting of the Ways and in Utopia. Still, it bit the Doctor on the bottom, as running away from Jack in Utopia is exactly what led him to The Master....
![]() ![]() Another such example where the Doctor is indirectly the persecutor is Human Nature/Family of Blood. Had the Doctor not chosen to hide as the human John Smith in England in 1913, then that school and the nearby village would not have suffered at the hands of the Family of Blood. |
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Another such example where the Doctor is indirectly the persecutor is Human Nature/Family of Blood. Had the Doctor not chosen to hide as the human John Smith in England in 1913, then that school and the nearby village would not have suffered at the hands of the Family of Blood.
And I think because of this lack of empathy sometimes he does treat companions rather unkindly. Of the new ones I think Martha had it worst. Although I don't think her story arc helped, I still don't think that the Doctor comes away with much credit from the way he treated her and I was never quite sure how the viewers were meant to feel about that. Still I suppose it does add more intrigue into a show which is never boring. Anyway, I liked Martha and loved series 3. |
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I think Peri should be top. Not only was her departure unclear, whether she had that alien's brain put in her body or became that warrior queen with Brian Blessed, but she had to deal with the Doctor's most difficult regeneration by herself, despite only just joining him the story before. Plus she was called evil by the Doctor and strangled to the ground by him. lol
He became more pleasant to her as time went on, but the 6th Doctor was definitely the most volatile and she was his companion for almost his entire time. |
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Martha - Poor cow.
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Martha - Poor cow.
Katarina, Sara Kingdom, Adric (dead) Dodo chaplet (brainwashed, abandoned, dead) Jamie & Zoe (forced to forget several years of their lives and, in Jamie's case, dumped back into the middle of a war) Peri (abandoned on an alien planet after narrowly escaping a fate worse than death) or Donna (also mindwiped) As I recall, Martha chose to leave and ended up doing something heroic with her new husband. She hasn't got a lot to moan about in comparison to the others. |
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I'm trying to think of other companions, not already mentioned, who may have not been treated very well. I've thought of two:-
1. Vicki (a First Doctor companion) left at the end of Myth Makers. In that story she had been renamed Cressida by the locals and had fallen in love with a character named Troilus. She decided to stay behind in order to marry the said Troilus. Well, this may sound like a "happy ever after" situation, but wasn't Trolius and Cressida a Shakespeare tragedy? 2. Victoria (a Second Doctor companion), who left at the end of Fury From The Deep. Didn't the Doctor just dump her, one hundred years after her time, with the rather boring Harris family? Did she actually want to stay with them? Did they actually want to look after her? |
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While I agree that there may be many different interpretations on who is or is not a companion, I do feel that there should be some consistent application of the chosen interpretation. If someone is to be rated a companion just because the producers at the time say they are, whereas other characters were not so rated because the producers at that time in the show's history felt differently, that does seem a bit silly to me. If Astrid, for example, is a companion, then why can't Richard Mace from The Visitation be one?
Personally, I'd say a companion is someone who accompanied the Doctor on at least two consecutive adventures. By that definition, Adam is a companion and I think he got a pretty raw deal, unceremoniously booted out the Tardis with an odd "thing" on his forehead. Though he was a bit of a shifty character, to be fair, so perhaps he deserved it. Others (like Liz Shaw) are assistants (although I don't particularly like that term either!)
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