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Old 28-04-2010, 20:42
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New single from second untitled album...

Produced by Steve Mac
Written by Andrew Frampton, Steve and Savan Kotecha
Samples The Sound Of Music

from breakfast2 on Popjustice
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Old 28-04-2010, 20:47
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This MUST be an album re-release, surely they're not releasing a new lead single and album so soon?
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Old 28-04-2010, 20:47
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This MUST be an album re-release, surely they're not releasing a new lead single and album so soon?
Nope.

Need to get the £££ while they're still relevant
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Old 28-04-2010, 20:49
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They'll do the same as last year - release 1st single middle of the year, 2nd single later in the year with live X Factor performance to maximize sales, and new album immediately after, near Christmas (again, to maximize sales).

You heard it from me.
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Old 28-04-2010, 20:51
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They're already releasing a second book this September too...
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Old 28-04-2010, 20:56
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They'll do the same as last year - release 1st single middle of the year, 2nd single later in the year with live X Factor performance to maximize sales, and new album immediately after, near Christmas (again, to maximize sales).

You heard it from me.
i like jls, but its all so annoyingly predictable, isnt it?
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Old 28-04-2010, 21:01
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They're already releasing a second book this September too...
A second book? Aren't they only like 20?
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Old 28-04-2010, 21:29
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i like jls, but its all so annoyingly predictable, isnt it?
I know. Remember that secret management plan for JLS that got leaked? It said they would release a new album every year for 5 years, deliberately timed towards the end of the year to take full advantage of the Christmas market. The fact that JLS are happy to go along with it shows that they and their management are only bothered about record sales and making money from their teenage girl fans while they are still young enough to be interested.

Looks like they will just become a more R&B teen-schoolgirl-friendly version of Westlife. Talk about manufactured.
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Old 28-04-2010, 21:36
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^ ^ ^ It's sickening, isn't it? worst thing is, people buy into it.
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Old 28-04-2010, 21:45
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^ ^ ^ It's sickening, isn't it? worst thing is, people buy into it.
What gets me is that so many people (including myself) say that Justin Bieber sells so many records only because young girls fancy him. But the reality is that it is no different with JLS, yet hardly anyone seems to mention it. Instead they say "Wow JLS have sold a million albums since being on X Factor aren't they brilliant"
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Old 28-04-2010, 21:46
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They are the most annoying thing since sliced bread!
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Old 28-04-2010, 21:53
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They are the most annoying thing since sliced bread!
oh no, that award goes to justin bieber.
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Old 28-04-2010, 21:55
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oh no, that award goes to justin bieber.
Joint 1st
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Old 28-04-2010, 22:10
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A second book? Aren't they only like 20?
It beggars belief how an act as young as JLS can release a book, never mind a second one. What the hell was in the first? "Grew up in East London, went to school, passed GCSEs, formed a boyband, left college, did some nights at pub karaoke. Then we came 2nd on X Factor and got absolutely minted. The end".
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Old 28-04-2010, 22:27
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Sorry, does that op say 'Samples The Sound Of Music'?

as in "The hills are alive with the sound of music"?

If so, i'm scared and shocked!
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Old 28-04-2010, 22:45
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The fact that JLS are happy to go along with it shows that they and their management are only bothered about record sales and making money from their teenage girl fans while they are still young enough to be interested.
Why wouldn't they go along with something that is bound to make them successful?

^ ^ ^ It's sickening, isn't it? worst thing is, people buy into it.
Sickening? How's that for an exaggeration. Also, I don't "buy into it" - I like the band, I like their music. Yes, I'm not going to deny they're good-looking, but it's not the reason I buy their music. I think Usher and Justin Timberlake are good-looking, but I hate both of their new songs & wouldn't buy them. It's an unfair stereotype that all JLS fans only support them because of their looks - though I'm not denying that a minority of them do.

It beggars belief how an act as young as JLS can release a book, never mind a second one. What the hell was in the first? "Grew up in East London, went to school, passed GCSEs, formed a boyband, left college, did some nights at pub karaoke. Then we came 2nd on X Factor and got absolutely minted. The end".
Oritsé's section of the book was really interesting, actually. He spoke about moving to Africa to do charity-work instead of going to 6th form; taking care of his family from a young age as his mum was diagnosed with MS when he was about 12; and how he put the band together & found each member.
Even as a fan of theirs though, I have to admit I didn't think Aston, Marvin or JB had anything particularly interesting to write about. They didn't really say much that I didn't already know.
I don't really see the point in a 2nd book either.
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Old 28-04-2010, 23:14
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Why wouldn't they go along with something that is bound to make them successful?
How on earth can you see that management plan as a good thing for music?

My point is that it is contrived - they and their management are trying to work out the best way of selling lots of records, not focusing on music. They are trying to maximize sales by deliberately taking advantage of the Christmas market.

The focus of musicians should be about the music itself, not just to make money out of the industry. This is what's wrong with the big record labels today - they are more interested in investing in fluff that will sell rather than real quality. Whatever happened to making music for music's sake?
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Old 28-04-2010, 23:28
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The focus of musicians should be about the music itself, not just to make money out of the industry. This is what's wrong with the big record labels today - they are more interested in investing in fluff that will sell rather than real quality. Whatever happened to making music for music's sake?
I do see the point you're making, and while it might be the record labels aim to just make money; I don't think it's fair to say that's the only thing that drives the band.
The fact that they're interested in being part of the actual making of the music itself (song-writing credits on 9 of 13 of the tracks on their 1st album, and they've been constantly tweeting about writing in the studio for the 2nd album over the past couple of months) suggests otherwise - contrary to what a lot of people seem to think; they don't just turn up, sing a few songs that then get autotuned to perfection and then go home.
All I meant by what I said was that they're hardly going to go against their label's plans for them when it's clearly making them successful - not that it's necessarily something I agree with them doing.
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Old 29-04-2010, 10:08
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Looking forward to it but their album could have done with another single. Take the rest of the year out and then return. They are being like Gaga and fleshing things out too quick and touring too much
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Old 29-04-2010, 10:15
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Why wouldn't they go along with something that is bound to make them successful?



Sickening? How's that for an exaggeration. Also, I don't "buy into it" - I like the band, I like their music. Yes, I'm not going to deny they're good-looking, but it's not the reason I buy their music. I think Usher and Justin Timberlake are good-looking, but I hate both of their new songs & wouldn't buy them. It's an unfair stereotype that all JLS fans only support them because of their looks - though I'm not denying that a minority of them do.
Fair enough.
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Old 29-04-2010, 12:18
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I do see the point you're making, and while it might be the record labels aim to just make money; I don't think it's fair to say that's the only thing that drives the band.
The fact that they're interested in being part of the actual making of the music itself (song-writing credits on 9 of 13 of the tracks on their 1st album, and they've been constantly tweeting about writing in the studio for the 2nd album over the past couple of months) suggests otherwise - contrary to what a lot of people seem to think; they don't just turn up, sing a few songs that then get autotuned to perfection and then go home.
All I meant by what I said was that they're hardly going to go against their label's plans for them when it's clearly making them successful - not that it's necessarily something I agree with them doing.
I am aware JLS have quite a few co-writes on their first album. I don't want to sound harsh, but their lyrics aren't great, they are just typical cheesy cliché boyband lyrics about loving girls. I know a lot of the best R&B singers sing about the same topics, but with JLS it comes across as average and soulless when compared with the likes of Ne-Yo and Justin Timberlake who have all the class and swagger required to pull it off, which is why they are so successful. JLS are successful for very different reasons which I've said about a thousand times here before.

I get what you mean about JLS's label's plans and why they would go along with it, but you hear a lot of stories these days about artists who want to want to make music the way they want to, and get annoyed at the record labels because they try to manufacture them in a way that is engineered to sell. My point was that if JLS really are bothered about music over anything else, then they would surely have an issue with what their label are planning for them, because these plans are so blatantly cynical and contrived and it proves the label see them purely as a marketing tool and cash cow. It was obvious this would happen from the moment they got snapped up by Epic shortly after they finished on X Factor.
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Old 29-04-2010, 15:47
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Dont get me wrong, I really cant stand JLS or their music, but I think people are being a bit unfair to say that its wrong for their team to have the plan earlier mentioned.

I dont want to see JLS around forever, but its a bloody good plan that will make a hell of a lot of money, and it'll make a lot of their fans happy. The music industry is about making a profit these days pure and simple.
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Old 29-04-2010, 16:13
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The second book planned is ridiculous, but I really dont see a problem with them releasing an album each year? Girls Aloud have done that, I think?

The title sounds extremely cheesy, but so did Everybody In Love.
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Old 29-04-2010, 16:33
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I don't understand why people criticise albums being released in such quick succesion these days. Look at how many amazing albums the Beatles managed in about 7 years.
Btw in no way am i comparing JLS and the Beatles!
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Old 29-04-2010, 22:54
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I don't really see whats wrong with releasing an album every year tbh.. I liked their first album but agree they could be releasing music a lot better than that.. & which is what I believe they will do with this 2nd album.. They have been working with much better producers/songwriters Toby Gad, Stargate, Labrinth, Soulshock & Karlin etc..
If the demand is there and they are likely to do well with another album being released this year.. then it seems a bit pointless to wait an extra year.. when they within the next few months will probably be finished recording it
Same with the book.. I loved the first book and it gave a real introduction and insight into their lives.. Oritse in particular.. Its mainly for fans so I don't see why its a problem.. Several artists have released/are releasing books (The Saturdays, N Dubz etc)
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