Also, did The Doctor leave his jacket on an Angel's finger?
Looks like he gets it back next week, but he was sans jacket in every scene since then...
Looks like he gets it back next week, but he was sans jacket in every scene since then...
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Series 1/5/31/Fnarg Episode 5- Flesh and Stone Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I forgot Wiki was the centre for all Who Folklore.
Considering Moffat created them I daresay he knows a damnsight more about his own creations than some contributor on Wiki who's managed to grab a thesaurus.
Remember also that the Angels in Blink were a much weaker form than the ones in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.”
“I forgot Wiki was the centre for all Who Folklore.
Considering Moffat created them I daresay he knows a damnsight more about his own creations than some contributor on Wiki who's managed to grab a thesaurus.
Remember also that the Angels in Blink were a much weaker form than the ones in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.”
and Amy had to pretend that she could see them so that they would act "normally." When she fell, they began to realise that they weren't being watched.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I forgot Wiki was the centre for all Who Folklore.
Considering Moffat created them I daresay he knows a damnsight more about his own creations than some contributor on Wiki who's managed to grab a thesaurus.
Remember also that the Angels in Blink were a much weaker form than the ones in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.”
“I forgot Wiki was the centre for all Who Folklore.
Considering Moffat created them I daresay he knows a damnsight more about his own creations than some contributor on Wiki who's managed to grab a thesaurus.Remember also that the Angels in Blink were a much weaker form than the ones in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.”
I only quoted wiki because it was a concise written summation of their character. I remember them in exactly the way it described and it was this clever, quantum theory related idea which i liked about them.
Originally Posted by codename_47:
“Also, did The Doctor leave his jacket on an Angel's finger?
Looks like he gets it back next week, but he was sans jacket in every scene since then...”
“Also, did The Doctor leave his jacket on an Angel's finger?
Looks like he gets it back next week, but he was sans jacket in every scene since then...”
The Doctor owns more than one jacket shock.
River was transported back to the prison ship. So who did those people on the prison ship think was "looking after" her?
I think the whole thing about the angels moving was to show that they had realised amy couldnt see, thats why the doctor was saying walk like you can see, so that the angels thought that and would be quantum locked, but when amy said she couldnt find the communicator they realised that they could move
or something like that
or something like that
Originally Posted by scowler:
“Exactly, these two episodes have completely ruined the original concept of the Weeping Angels.
Heres how Wiki describes them, based on their explaination in Blink:
Their physiology is quantum-locked, so that they only occupy a single position in space when seen by an observer (see Copenhagen interpretation). When they are not observed they become a "quantum wave form" that occupies many positions in space. Therefore, they cannot move while observed, but can move extremely quickly when unseen.
They don't 'turn to stone' on purpose to be sneaky, they literally cannot move when an observer in present.
Terrible pair of episodes and a terrible series so far.”
“Exactly, these two episodes have completely ruined the original concept of the Weeping Angels.
Heres how Wiki describes them, based on their explaination in Blink:
Their physiology is quantum-locked, so that they only occupy a single position in space when seen by an observer (see Copenhagen interpretation). When they are not observed they become a "quantum wave form" that occupies many positions in space. Therefore, they cannot move while observed, but can move extremely quickly when unseen.
They don't 'turn to stone' on purpose to be sneaky, they literally cannot move when an observer in present.
Terrible pair of episodes and a terrible series so far.”
You obviously hate it because you want to. Its as pointless as all the sycophancy you also find here.
love the doctor.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“The Doctor owns more than one jacket shock.”
“The Doctor owns more than one jacket shock.
”
I expect he just got a new one from the replicator.
Oops, wrong series!
I thought it was a great episode .
but could someone please explain the 'rules' with these angels , I really don't get it now .
and where did those soldiers come from at the end (on the beach )?
but could someone please explain the 'rules' with these angels , I really don't get it now .
and where did those soldiers come from at the end (on the beach )?
Originally Posted by CD93:
“and Amy had to pretend that she could see them so that they would act "normally." When she fell, they began to realise that they weren't being watched.”
“and Amy had to pretend that she could see them so that they would act "normally." When she fell, they began to realise that they weren't being watched.”
The Ravenous Bugblatter Beast is so mind-bogglingly stupid that it thinks that if you can't see it, it can't see you. Therefore, the best defence against a Bugblatter Beast is to wrap a towel around your head.
I claim my "link to H2G2" prize
Originally Posted by CD93:
“The Pandorica will probably be "the bang" which causes the cracks... God I love time travel.”
“The Pandorica will probably be "the bang" which causes the cracks... God I love time travel.”
I hope when they say "bang" they don't mean a Slitheen does a massive fart.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“The Doctor owns more than one jacket shock.”
“The Doctor owns more than one jacket shock.
”
But the one he's seen in next weekend wasn't blue?
I guess they all have their own Sonic Screwdriver in the pocket too
Originally Posted by CD93:
“and Amy had to pretend that she could see them so that they would act "normally." When she fell, they began to realise that they weren't being watched.”
“and Amy had to pretend that she could see them so that they would act "normally." When she fell, they began to realise that they weren't being watched.”
I have to say that scene just didn't work for me.
Do the Weeping Angels freeze because they are being watched or just because they think they are being watched?
Originally Posted by scowler:
“I only quoted wiki because it was a concise written summation of their character. I remember them in exactly the way it described and it was this clever, quantum theory related idea which i liked about them.”
“I only quoted wiki because it was a concise written summation of their character. I remember them in exactly the way it described and it was this clever, quantum theory related idea which i liked about them.”
And it has not changed. They cannot move while not observed. But we learnt more about them in this episode - the knowledge of their power and the way they work has developed. That's not a bad thing.
Originally Posted by CD93:
“and Amy had to pretend that she could see them so that they would act "normally." When she fell, they began to realise that they weren't being watched.”
“and Amy had to pretend that she could see them so that they would act "normally." When she fell, they began to realise that they weren't being watched.”
A major part of quantum physics is that sub-atomic particles act in a bizarre way when unobserved but are forced to collapse into a settled state when observed.
The original cocept of the Angels was that they were a lifeform who behaved in this quantum state.
Here is a better explination of this concept in a video about the double slit experiment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“and where did those soldiers come from at the end (on the beach )?”
“and where did those soldiers come from at the end (on the beach )?”
Prison ship
Originally Posted by scowler:
“Exactly, these two episodes have completely ruined the original concept of the Weeping Angels.
Heres how Wiki describes them, based on their explaination in Blink:
Their physiology is quantum-locked, so that they only occupy a single position in space when seen by an observer (see Copenhagen interpretation). When they are not observed they become a "quantum wave form" that occupies many positions in space. Therefore, they cannot move while observed, but can move extremely quickly when unseen.
They don't 'turn to stone' on purpose to be sneaky, they literally cannot move when an observer in present.
Terrible pair of episodes and a terrible series so far.”
“Exactly, these two episodes have completely ruined the original concept of the Weeping Angels.
Heres how Wiki describes them, based on their explaination in Blink:
Their physiology is quantum-locked, so that they only occupy a single position in space when seen by an observer (see Copenhagen interpretation). When they are not observed they become a "quantum wave form" that occupies many positions in space. Therefore, they cannot move while observed, but can move extremely quickly when unseen.
They don't 'turn to stone' on purpose to be sneaky, they literally cannot move when an observer in present.
Terrible pair of episodes and a terrible series so far.”
Sorry that a plot hole has ruined things for you and its great for you to keep us on the straight and narrow with the "Angels Rule Book".
Keep up the good work.
Originally Posted by TCD1975:
“I have to say that scene just didn't work for me.
Do the Weeping Angels freeze because the are being watched or just because they think they are being watched?”
“I have to say that scene just didn't work for me.
Do the Weeping Angels freeze because the are being watched or just because they think they are being watched?”
The Ravenous Bugblatter Beast is so mind-bogglingly stupid that it thinks that if you can't see it, it can't see you. Therefore, the best defence against a Bugblatter Beast is to wrap a towel around your head.
I claim my "link to H2G2" prize
Originally Posted by RandomPeter94:
“Wheres The Poll??!!”
“Wheres The Poll??!!”
it would really help if instead of asking this people alerted the op and ask the mods for a poll that way.
evenin
i liked this episode more than the previous oen but can someone explain when the doctor said dont open your eyes even for as econd or you'll die why could she open her eyes for about 5 seconds when looking at the light?
i liked this episode more than the previous oen but can someone explain when the doctor said dont open your eyes even for as econd or you'll die why could she open her eyes for about 5 seconds when looking at the light?
Originally Posted by Stev0:
“Another thing is that the Angels said the same thing as Prisoner Zero. "The Doctor and the Tardis doesn't know". Those exact words, obviously has some significance.”
“Another thing is that the Angels said the same thing as Prisoner Zero. "The Doctor and the Tardis doesn't know". Those exact words, obviously has some significance.”
Significant that the TARDIS itself is mentioned?
Originally Posted by TCD1975:
“I have to say that scene just didn't work for me.
Do the Weeping Angels freeze because they are being watched or just because they think they are being watched?”
“I have to say that scene just didn't work for me.
Do the Weeping Angels freeze because they are being watched or just because they think they are being watched?”
Obviously because they think they're being watched - they don't go for the eyes, they go for the actions.
Originally Posted by Tegan Jovanka:
“God. I think I've worked it out.
Or is this too OTT”
“God. I think I've worked it out.
Spoiler
Or is this too OTT”
Probably not the right place for this, but I do agree with you. The connection between Amy and River don't seem to be coincidental. (And that crack in time that seems to follow Amy would help explain how they could be the same person as well as why River and the Doctor can't get their time sequenced.)
Like River Song, Amy has ginger hair; both River and Amy have ginger-colored hair; both are feisty, independent, and adventurous problem solvers; and both have deep respect for but don't idolize the doctor. There is even a slight connection between Amy's last name, "Pond," and "River." (Add that seeminly stand-alone dialogue about the lack of ducks in the duck "pond" and everything gets even more curious.)
Just the fact that Moffet brought River in so early in the series stand out to me. Logically, I would think he would wait until later, after Amy's story had developed so she could claim her place without a "rival" of any sort. Instead, he brings River in early on, which makes me think that their connection must be vital in order for us to truly understand Amy.
I'll even thought about how very sad/poignant it would be to discover that somehow Amy is River and then have to continue watching the relationship grow (between Amy and the Doctor) knowing what would happen (unless, of course, the doctor already figured it out)
It is just too easy to drift along and string things together in between episodes. I love to solve mysteries, but must admit there really aren't enough clues yet. However, conjecture can be fun...
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