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Old 15-05-2004, 12:33
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Wow! From the spoilers, it looks like the residents of Weatherfield don't take too kindly to having a "gay in the village"!

Possibly I'm prejudging this and people are angry at Todd's deception rather than his sexuality, although it's pretty obvious that Jason just doesn't like gay people.

I suppose they have not portrayed any negative reactions to Karl but then again, we don't really know how many people know that he's gay.

I'm just a bit wary that when they you-know-what hits the fan next week , the reactions shown will give out a bad message. Maybe it's realistic - perhaps some of the gay contributors to this board have had to put up with the kind of things Todd will be facing over the next few weeks?
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Old 15-05-2004, 12:54
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I think that their anger will be because of Todd's deception rather than the fact that he's gay. Especially if his affair has anything to do with Sarah giving birth prematurely and then losing the baby. I don't think that there are any characters in Corrie who are capable of being downright homophobic. You'll probably get some remarks from the likes of Les but I think they'll be spoken more in jest rather than nastiness.
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Old 15-05-2004, 17:13
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I think it's quite apparent that Jason is homophobic anyway, due to his attitude and reaction when Nick accused Todd of being gay last year. I think David's reaction of writing "queer" on Eileen's door will be more down to his angriness of Todd's deception rather than homophobia - it's just an easy insult.

Most of the older residents will probably be disgusted, but that's just their generation. Yeah, I reckon everyone will care more about his deception rather than his sexuality.
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Old 15-05-2004, 19:54
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I would tend to agree, the Corrie residents won't be too fussed about whether he's gay or not, it will be his deception and just the added shock that he cheated with another bloke. There are lads like Jason about, that are quite homophobic but these are lads who like Jason haven't travelled, haven't done a lot in their young lives, their lives are centred around one area in Manchester, or Dublin or wherever. However, once the reality of a gay person is literally living in your house, we will hopefully see his attitude change for the better.

The Platts will just hate Todd for deceiving Sarah an for getting her pregnant just to prove something to himself, in short he's ruined her life basically. Nick already said "It's not that you're gay, its that you're lying to yourself and more importantly my sister!" The older residents, hmmm we might be surprised. The likes of Rita and Ken, Deirdre I wouldn't think would be too bothered. Blanche probably, I can't wait to hear her reaction lol
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Old 15-05-2004, 21:36
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The fact is that most people in this country are anti-homosexuality, so if that's reflected in the Corrie residents reaction to Todd then it's just an accurate reflection of real life. People who do have a problem with homosexuality though are often too afraid to speak up for fear of being labelled a homophobic bigot, but everyone should be entitled to their opinion and if someone thinks a particular behaviour is morally wrong then they shouldn't be attacked for voicing that opinion.
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Old 15-05-2004, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Alex482
The fact is that most people in this country are anti-homosexuality, so if that's reflected in the Corrie residents reaction to Todd then it's just an accurate reflection of real life. People who do have a problem with homosexuality though are often too afraid to speak up for fear of being labelled a homophobic bigot, but everyone should be entitled to their opinion and if someone thinks a particular behaviour is morally wrong then they shouldn't be attacked for voicing that opinion.
So you speak for most people in this country do you Alex482? I think you are a liar. Provide me with the proof to back up your claim and I will apologise.

When a programme like Coronation Street can show a gay kiss and only get 20 complaints from an audience of 14 million, it shows that people aren't as outraged as you would have us believe. Infact, since the recent gay storyline started, Corrie has gained an extra 2 million viewers.

As for not wanting to be labelled a homophobic bigot, the easy answer is to stop being one!
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Old 15-05-2004, 22:02
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If an opinion is voiced in a constructive manner, all well and good, I agree with Alex482, but so often critics of gay people fall back on name-calling through their own ignorance and intolerance. I'm sure we will see this, but also hope that we see some support of Todd from unexpected quarters.
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Old 15-05-2004, 22:47
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I'm gay and I get comments like

'' he sucks ****''

'' hey you you f****** queer''
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Old 15-05-2004, 22:58
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Not very constructive.
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Old 16-05-2004, 01:46
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I'm gay, 99% of the people I work with don't have an issue with my sexuality, nor do my family, or my partners family. I have been in a relationship with my partner for almost 10 years. I will not tolerate discrimination from narrow minded homophobic people because I love another man. If someone has a problem with that, then it's just that, THERE problem! As I say to the 1%: 'I don't mind straight people, so long as they keep themselves to themselves, and don't flaunt it! '
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Old 16-05-2004, 02:20
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It largely depends on what you're constituting as morally wrong. If you're saying Todd cheating on his pregnant fiancee with another bloke is morally wrong, I would say yes, it is, same way it would be if she were cheating with another bloke or if he were cheating with a girl. If you're saying being gay is morally wrong, well then I'm sorry but you are a bigot. Its the same as saying that being Irish is morally wrong, something you have no control over. I personally won't put up wiht someone having a go at me because I love another guy, that who I am and if they don't like thats their problem.
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Old 16-05-2004, 02:37
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Originally Posted by TK Max
Not very constructive.
No, but it happens in real life.

I think this has been a good plot line. I bet there are loads of young guys out there relating to this situation. Sometimes seeing something on the telly and giving a character to compare feelings to does help.

And what is going to happen will show young guys that when they do come out, it is not always plain sailing. It would be wrong to show otherwise on the TV.
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Old 16-05-2004, 02:50
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Yeh I completely agree, its not all plain sailing but hopefully the young guys will be able to say well it may not be half as bad as Todd's coming out, thats if they haven't got a baby on the way and a fiancee. But you will meet some people who won't be cool with it. But may be surprised how few and far between they are.
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Old 16-05-2004, 08:24
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Here we go again, another thread turns into a rant about the rights and wrongs of being gay. And as usual anyone who voices an anti gay opinion is regarded as being a homophobic bigot, anyone who expresses a pro gay view is regarded as a queer or worse.

I may be wrong but I thought this thread was about homophobia in Corrie (you know the fictional street in weatherfield) Stay with the thread folks there are plenty of forums where you can argue about your sexuality the rights and wrongs of one sex relationships. Lighten up and think how the fictional characters in the fictional street are goung to react. [/i]RANT OVER[i]

I think Les and Norris will be the two leading lights in voicing their opinion when this all comes out not to mention the equally dreadful Blanche
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Old 16-05-2004, 09:23
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I also think Bet in the pub will have something to say, or at least she will make that face of dissaproval. She is quite a character - she never has much to say or do, but when she does she's usually very blunt about things.
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Old 16-05-2004, 10:32
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oops. i think I meant Betty not Bet.
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Old 16-05-2004, 10:47
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Originally Posted by Alex482
People who do have a problem with homosexuality though are often too afraid to speak up for fear of being labelled a homophobic bigot, .
Er, 'having a problem' with homosexuality is the exact definition of homophobia. It's like claiming that people who have a problem 'with blacks' shouldn't be labelled racist.



Sheesh.

But anyway, back on topic, I think Todd's bombshell might well encourage others out of the closet. Emily perhaps? Those shoes of hers are far too sensible.
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Old 16-05-2004, 11:19
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Edited due to error in quotes. Sorry to have mixed up names and cast wrong aspersions...............

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Old 16-05-2004, 12:53
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There is such an issue with Homophobia on these forums Look we are going to get called everysort of name from queer to fag, we may just accept it, I do.
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Old 16-05-2004, 12:57
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper
There is such an issue with Homophobia on these forums Look we are going to get called everysort of name from queer to fag, we may just accept it, I do.

The threads should be about the soap concerned not the sexuality of the posters. People posting here should not have to justify their own preference, after all it is a fictional character we are talking about here
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Old 16-05-2004, 15:39
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Yes but posters sexuality did come into it. I will leave it out in future
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Old 16-05-2004, 21:06
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I can just see Todd now...


That is exactly the type of Homophobic attitude I have come to expect in this village, good day!
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Old 16-05-2004, 23:49
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I could imagine Les would be the most vocal in his homphobia. If Todd walked into the Rovers at the same time as Les was there I wouldn't be surprised to hear him declare to all the men to 'watch their backs' etc.

I could imagine Kevin, Tommy & Tyrone all feeling uncomfortable & without saying anything make it clearly obvious they don't want to be around him. Tyrone has already freaked out when Karl was pretending to chat him up.

As for Blanche, Norris & Vera they'll just be glad of the excuse for another gossip.
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Old 17-05-2004, 09:02
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You never know, the residents of 'The Street' or 'Victorian Street' as I like to call it, might surprise us, and not turn out to be narrow minded, homophobic bigots, and actually realise there is more to life than boy meets girl! Depends mainly on the writers I guess!
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Old 17-05-2004, 11:01
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I think we are going to see a complete mixture of reactions. Some characters will be supportive and sympathetic (Ken, Rita, Roy and Hayley), some characters will be homophobic Les being the obvious example while I reckon loads wont give a damn. If Corrie is trying to be realistic, that is the best way to deal with it.
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