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Old 03-05-2010, 12:44
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I think blue is much better than red or green but especially yellow although now I come to think of it violet and pink are the best too...

Alternatively - I think all the colours make up the spectrum of visible light, and that's how it should be.

I thought I liked MS better than DT and CE. I went back and watched Rose,End of the World, Runaway Bride, Blink and loved them. My son is now obsessed with watching CE because he was too young to remember him.

So far this new revamped post 2005 series hasn't cast a duff Doctor (Doctor Duff?) and MS just continues that happy success rate for me and everybody I have talked to about it.

Let's face it, the very character of The Doctor is a magnetic piece of fiction no matter who plays him. One day they will cast someone unsuitable and we will cringe and be sad. We dodged the bullet this time.

Actually, my favourite is cyan....
Actually that's what I was trying to say, but probably failed miserably. Good post.
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Old 03-05-2010, 13:13
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MS is the best Dr since TB
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Old 03-05-2010, 13:28
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After 40 years or so of watching DW, I'm still of a mind that there are no better/worse Doctors, there are merely different interpretations of a character - there will always be personal preferences (although mine tends to be with the stories the show tells rather than the Doctor who features in them) so don't worry about thinking that MS is better than DT if that's what you believe but I've a feeling when you go back to older episodes you'll remember what DT brought to the role during his tenure irrespective of what MS is bringing to it currently.
I think blue is much better than red or green but especially yellow although now I come to think of it violet and pink are the best too...

Alternatively - I think all the colours make up the spectrum of visible light, and that's how it should be.

I thought I liked MS better than DT and CE. I went back and watched Rose,End of the World, Runaway Bride, Blink and loved them. My son is now obsessed with watching CE because he was too young to remember him.

So far this new revamped post 2005 series hasn't cast a duff Doctor (Doctor Duff?) and MS just continues that happy success rate for me and everybody I have talked to about it.

Let's face it, the very character of The Doctor is a magnetic piece of fiction no matter who plays him. One day they will cast someone unsuitable and we will cringe and be sad. We dodged the bullet this time.

Actually, my favourite is cyan....
Two fantastic posts!!!!


But I have to say.....Yellow is soooooooooooo last year!!!!
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Old 03-05-2010, 14:02
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I absolutely adore MS and he is by far better than DT IMO.. But i did love DT aswell
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Old 03-05-2010, 14:29
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I think each actor brings their own merits to the show but for me Eccleston is still the best and Smith is very much up there with him. Tennant is somewhere down my list with Mcoy.
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Old 03-05-2010, 19:43
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I like all the new Doctors, each of them brought something different/special to the role.

So there is no intrinsically "better than" for me (and just talking new Docs here):

I loved CE because he was fun, relaxed but powerful, but not overbearing, a bit detached in the "been there, done that" sense, yet unjaded, with a great sense of humour.

I liked DT a lot because he convincingly oscillated between exuberant manic joy up to delusions of grandeur ("God Mode") and pit-deep raw emotions/vulnerability. This Doctor carried the weight of his losses and the world on his shoulder, trying to overcompensate with bravado. He was the most alien to me in his rage - fire and ice on galactic scale, and in that totally convincing to me. Probably one of the most merciless incarnations when pushed that I have seen.

I like MS so far as well because he inherited the somewhat manic state but without the God Mode (yet) - madman in a box ; he seems to talk even more and faster than DT, with similar flashes of brilliance, but less smugness and vanity; and he has a more volatile temper and gets more easily frustrated (by his own limitations, perhaps because he remembers the old "God mode" he used to have but he is a bit clueless these days). Like CE, he seems more emotionally detached, without the emotional rawness that I found in DE's incarnation.

Each of them their own personality and all work fine for me Love them all
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Old 03-05-2010, 22:24
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I liked both CE and DT but in my opinion MS is something really special.
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Old 03-05-2010, 22:48
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I don't understand this question as there are 11 Doctors. Is MS better than TB etc, etc,. Does he need to be 'better'. I think even if he's not your favourite that MS is doing a brilliant job, look at the viewing figures, talk to your kids.
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Old 03-05-2010, 23:05
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DT became my least favourite Doctor because I felt a lot of his last-year-and-a-bit were taken over by an unhealthy hero-worship and fetishisation of the Doctor (and, indeed of DT himself). At the same time, the humanisation of the tenth Doctor diminished the character for me.

MS does indeed have a much greater alien quality and a more self-contained and occasionally explosive anger which make him seem more inhuman.

I feel i couldn't have asked for more!
Hav eto say that this is how I feel too. I can't look at DT objectively, which is a shame because he was absolutely fantastic as the Doctor throughout his spell - but the romance with Rose which dominated the series two finale, then the unrequited love of Martha really hit Ten's likeability to me. Series 4 was great with Donna, but then the hero-worship that featured at times in the script bugged me again (which is ironic as I loved The Waters of Mars but was spooked by the almost demonic Doctor).
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Old 03-05-2010, 23:20
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However at times there seems to be this shift in writing to try and give him Tennant-isms almost as if the writers don't entirely trust us not to accept a Doctor that is different from Davids.

Ironically those are the moments when Matts Doctor does kinda fall flat slightly.
Couldn't agree more - I hate it when the give him DT's lines, it doesn't suit him and he almost seems embarrassed saying them.
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Old 03-05-2010, 23:28
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I like all the Doctors (fan since 2005) but I have to say Matt Smith is my favourite to watch
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Old 03-05-2010, 23:50
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Hav eto say that this is how I feel too. I can't look at DT objectively, which is a shame because he was absolutely fantastic as the Doctor throughout his spell - but the romance with Rose which dominated the series two finale, then the unrequited love of Martha really hit Ten's likeability to me. Series 4 was great with Donna, but then the hero-worship that featured at times in the script bugged me again (which is ironic as I loved The Waters of Mars but was spooked by the almost demonic Doctor).
That was the point of it though. People often say that RTD had made the Doctor into a messiah typy of character, when really all that was being done was such a perspective was being challegend. Basically the Doctor is this Time Lord, with immense powwr and control at his disposal compared to other beings in the universe, he can like Margaret Sliteen says to him in Boom Town, be a God. And soemtimes people did start treating him like God, or the so called hero worship....but again and again inthose very scrpts this was always challenged. For example in Boom Town where Margaret had said this, the rest of the episode was spent discussing the right of the Doctor to decide her punishment, and whether taking her to be executed makes him the same as her, a killer...not a God, or the fact that Only God could have such a moral high ground, to punsih someone in the very way that the criminal commits his crimes. Other plces where the Doctor's God like status was challegend was in Love and Monsters, where Elton says that the Doctor maybe great, but get to close...hence taking away the idea that he is some kind of God, that he is a very flawed character, not a perfect God as the LINDA lot had made him out to be. And then In the Last of the time Lords, where a minute ago, everyone is chanting his name, and then the next, no one else remembers who the hell he was, and those who do like Martha, Jack and the Master all choose not to be with him in the end....its not the usual thing that would happen to a God who just saved you all. It showed that he isn't perfect, that despite his best intentions, he still isn't as perfect as Martha was making him out to be, and as Jack believed his salvation was with only to realise that it was his TW team that he needed, and who needed him. Then in Voyage of the Damned, we have that imagery of him ascending with Angels....but then later despite being able to save everyone, he loses Astrid, and part of him wishes that Ricksteian had died instead, and as Mr Mr Copper rightly says, that if he could choose who live and who dies....it would make him into a monster..therefore challenging the image that we saw not long ago.

However, as time went by and right up to the Waters of Mars, despite people giving him hero worship, he never tried to see himself worthy of that worship, untill the events of WOTM, where he lost it and he finally decided that yes he was like a God...and therefore time will listen to him....but we know that didn't work out either, made him look like a monster instead, and he spent most of EOT trying to do epic things, and die epically, only to have small four knocks to bring him down from his high chair, and then go around doing the small deads, things that used to make him really happy before he went a bit loopy...as his real rewards...not dying in an epic fashion like being killed by the Master or Rassilon.


And now the Doctor can go back to being just the Doctor....knowing that its the wonder of the universe that makes him happy, knowing that the decision he made in the Time War was the right one, and knowing that he doesn't completely destroy everyone he meets, that they are able to start again in some form, and maybe even live a better life than they did....allowing him to have another companion in his life...and what kind of companion as well.
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