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'fairy tales' references, may be significant?
This is just something I think might be worth thinking about, and I hope maybe i'm not the only one
In TEH, when the doctor first talks to young amy, he says: 'Ohhh thats a brilliant name. Amelia Pond. Like a name in a fairy tale.' then a few episodes later, When the Doctor and River Song are talking about Pandorica, he says that it is a 'Fairy Tale'. What with everyone seemingly revolving around Amy/Amelia, and with us knowing that Young Amy is in the finale, Could these two occurences of speech be related? or am I being stupid?
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Entirely likely it's significant. Moffat has been using the term in publicity for this series.
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This is just something I think might be worth thinking about, and I hope maybe i'm not the only one
In TEH, when the doctor first talks to young amy, he says: 'Ohhh thats a brilliant name. Amelia Pond. Like a name in a fairy tale.' then a few episodes later, When the Doctor and River Song are talking about Pandorica, he says that it is a 'Fairy Tale'. What with everyone seemingly revolving around Amy/Amelia, and with us knowing that Young Amy is in the finale, Could these two occurences of speech be related? or am I being stupid? ![]() |
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Also amys red riding hood impression in the oxygen forest
or the "alice In wonderland" rabbithole that we the viewers tumble down during the opening credits? |
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There's the whole myth thing which is kind of similar as well. All that stuff about apples...
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How come the Doctor scoffed and said "That's just a fairy tale" when River Song mentioned the Pandorica in FAS, but he didn't react the same way when Prisoner Zero mentioned it in TEH?
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How come the Doctor scoffed and said "That's just a fairy tale" when River Song mentioned the Pandorica in FAS, but he didn't react the same way when Prisoner Zero mentioned it in TEH?
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This is just something I think might be worth thinking about, and I hope maybe i'm not the only one
In TEH, when the doctor first talks to young amy, he says: 'Ohhh thats a brilliant name. Amelia Pond. Like a name in a fairy tale.' then a few episodes later, When the Doctor and River Song are talking about Pandorica, he says that it is a 'Fairy Tale'. What with everyone seemingly revolving around Amy/Amelia, and with us knowing that Young Amy is in the finale, Could these two occurences of speech be related? or am I being stupid? ![]() River: We'll meet again when the Pandorica opens. Doctor *scoffs*: The Pandorica, ha!...That's a fairytale River *laughing*: Aren't we all? What did she mean by 'Aren't we all?'
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I think what's more is important in the exchange is:
River: We'll meet again when the Pandorica opens. Doctor *scoffs*: The Pandorica, ha!...That's a fairytale River *laughing*: Aren't we all? What did she mean by 'Aren't we all?' ![]() |
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Well it could just be a cheeky reference to the fact that DW is a make-believe TV programme I guess
![]() It could mean something slightly more though. |
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True - I wouldn't put that pass Moffat.
![]() It could mean something slightly more though. |
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Fairytale-ness is definately a theme but possibly in a general stylistic sense rather than as a plot point.
The music in the final scene of Flesh and Stone certainly seemed fairy-tale ish. It would not have seemed out of place as back ground music in a tv adaptation of a brothers grim story. While i would never call the RTD era gritty or realistic, in a general sense there was a kind of "realism" going on in his time on the show, for example Rose lives on a council estate and come from a one parent home. Amy in contrast is the typical fairytale heroine, lives in a big house (which is shot in a very fable esque way) on her own, has a nasty but in a narrative sense completely absent aunt figure (not literally but very like a wicked step mother) and missing/dead parents. She is the architypal fairy tale damsel in distress. This series is big on allusion, with fairy-tale, greek mythology and goodness knows what else popping up. Its great fun. Someone should try and list all the themes and allusions in this series, someone who doesn't have exams to study for.
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Fairytale-ness is definately a theme but possibly in a general stylistic sense rather than as a plot point.
The music in the final scene of Flesh and Stone certainly seemed fairy-tale ish. It would not have seemed out of place as back ground music in a tv adaptation of a brothers grim story. While i would never call the RTD era gritty or realistic, in a general sense there was a kind of "realism" going on in his time on the show, for example Rose lives on a council estate and come from a one parent home. Amy in contrast is the typical fairytale heroine, lives in a big house (which is shot in a very fable esque way) on her own, has a nasty but in a narrative sense completely absent aunt figure (not literally but very like a wicked step mother) and missing/dead parents. She is the architypal fairy tale damsel in distress. This series is big on allusion, with fairy-tale, greek mythology and goodness knows what else popping up. Its great fun. Someone should try and list all the themes and allusions in this series, someone who doesn't have exams to study for. ![]() ![]() ![]() I wonder whether children at my old school are watchign Doctor Who again and again because of it...if so, lucky them. ![]()
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My six year old boy (new to Who this season and absolutely loving it by the way) pointed out the prevalence of big sharp pointy teeth; Prisoner zero, Angels and the Vampires.
Another one for the list. |
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My six year old boy (new to Who this season and absolutely loving it by the way) pointed out the prevalence of big sharp pointy teeth; Prisoner zero, Angels and the Vampires.
Another one for the list.
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gotta love a list neel
![]() i read this somewhere else, but i cant remember where now... in the first hospital scene we are shown an IV machine... the label at the top says royal leadworth hospital... when we are shown the man with dog guy, his IV machine label at the top says MYTH as does the one to the left of him. another myth reference was mentioned and ithin it was in F&S but im not sure about that now, its fallen out of my brain lol |
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