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"You propose an alliance?" An age old missed opportunity?
Harking way back to Doomsday in 2006, I was thinking about The Cult of Skaro. I wander if it would have been more interesting to reveal the daleks earlier on in Army of Ghosts (like pre-credits sequence, seeing as the cybermen were a given really) and then have the cliffhanger as the proposed alliance at the end of Army of Ghosts. (I still feel this would have benefited from being a three parter, thus eliminating a need for Love and Monsters
![]() ). And imagine the plot opportunities if they had become an allegiance!!!!Does anyone feel that this would have also meant the dalek story could have been so much better in Series 3, as that decided to deal with the daleks proposed alliance with humanity to form a new dalek species.... |
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I think a three parter would have been good but an alliance between the Daleks and the Cybermen would IMO have gone against the nature of the Dalek's xenophobic/genocidal nature. I liked the idea of three sides fighting each other/humans getting caught between two superior (technologically speaking!) races.
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I think a three parter would have been good but an alliance between the Daleks and the Cybermen would IMO have gone against the nature of the Dalek's xenophobic/genocidal nature. I liked the idea of three sides fighting each other/humans getting caught between two superior (technologically speaking!) races.
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The Daleks were always going to be superior to the first-generation Cybermen, and the Daleks also had absolutely no need of them. While I don't think the Daleks are above accepting an alliance if it furthers their goals (as long as they can turn on their inferior associates afterwards), they would have to be in more dire straits than that.
Oddly enough, that story was a similar sort of set-up to the Angels story - set up the ominous presence of a threat, make it into certain doom, and then let it play second fiddle to an even bigger threat. |
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I think a three parter would have been good but an alliance between the Daleks and the Cybermen would IMO have gone against the nature of the Dalek's xenophobic/genocidal nature.
Cybermen: You could defeat the Cybermen with four Daleks? Dalek: We could defeat the Cybermen with ONE Dalek! |
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They are superior in one respect
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They should of had the daleks or the cybermen, does'nt matter which, team up with the humans to destroy cybermen/daleks and then have them suddenly turn on the humans. Basically destroy the cybermen/daleks and then thank the humans by destroying them.
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They should of had the daleks or the cybermen, does'nt matter which, team up with the humans to destroy cybermen/daleks and then have them suddenly turn on the humans. Basically destroy the cybermen/daleks and then thank the humans by destroying them.
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except that 1 dalek>5m cybermen>6 b people, so 4 daleks > 5m cyberman + 6 b [people
QED Not necessarily! 10 > 8 > 4 but that doesn't mean that 10 > 8 + 4!
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Not necessarily!
10 > 8 > 4 but that doesn't mean that 10 > 8 + 4! ![]() x>y>z => 4x> (y+z) |
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Aaaah! Maths! Run everybody!...
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Another missed opportunity is Harry Saxon. I think showing his facing in passing once or twice earlier in series 3 would have heightened the drama at the end if Utopia as we "the viewers" recognise it as the Prime Minister and Marthas recognition of his voice means something.
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Another missed opportunity is Harry Saxon. I think showing his facing in passing once or twice earlier in series 3 would have heightened the drama at the end if Utopia as we "the viewers" recognise it as the Prime Minister and Marthas recognition of his voice means something.
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Aaaah! Maths! Run everybody!...
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). And imagine the plot opportunities if they had become an allegiance!!!!
