Have BT got The Premier League on Demand Next Season?

Homesdale · 04-05-2010, 10:34

I think BT's deal to show the Premier League runs out this season.

Does anyone know if a new deal has been sorted out for next season?

jam2000 · 04-05-2010, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Homesdale

I think BT's deal to show the Premier League runs out this season.

Does anyone know if a new deal has been sorted out for next season?

Nope BT dont have it next season.

Mark. · 04-05-2010, 12:56

Sky have retained the "Football First" rights, but there's been nothing in the reports to suggest that BT have kept them as well (last time, it was a joint bid).

stuntmaster · 04-05-2010, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Mark.

Sky have retained the "Football First" rights, but there's been nothing in the reports to suggest that BT have kept them as well (last time, it was a joint bid).

I would have thought so.

since BT is VOD, sky is merely an interactive channel. so quite different. you can't class Football first as VOD, as it won't be on demand the next day unlike BT vision.

likewise there has been no reports to say they've lost it either....

maybe though.. BT may loose it due to sky sports 1 becoming available on DTT or supposedly coming available. thus the two would conflict like hell. as FF and BT Sport would have the same content.

intercept · 05-05-2010, 12:41

Click here

spaceman05 · 05-05-2010, 22:57

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Originally Posted by intercept

Click here

does not really give an answer to the op`s question

jam2000 · 06-05-2010, 06:35

I can tell you now, no they dont have ondemand from next season.

andyf94 · 06-05-2010, 07:22

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Originally Posted by jam2000

I can tell you now, no they dont have ondemand from next season.

Source?

jam2000 · 06-05-2010, 09:36

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Originally Posted by andyf94

Source?

BT of course

MostynDS · 06-05-2010, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homesdale

I think BT's deal to show the Premier League runs out this season.

Does anyone know if a new deal has been sorted out for next season?

I would have thought so.

The EPL are bound to sell the rights to BT as it represents extra revenue for them.

You have to ask yourself if anybody else would be interested in buying those rights. Viewers don't want to watch old football matches in their entirity. Not exactly a premium product is it?

jam2000 · 06-05-2010, 14:47

It will no longer be on BTVision next season.

wgmorg · 06-05-2010, 15:33

That would represent a demonstration that the OFCOM decision is resulting in a reduction of completion.

It would appear that the EPL are correct in their belief that the OFCOM decision will reduce the value of soccer rights.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jam2000

It will no longer be on BTVision next season.

jam2000 · 07-05-2010, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by wgmorg

That would represent a demonstration that the OFCOM decision is resulting in a reduction of completion.

It would appear that the EPL are correct in their belief that the OFCOM decision will reduce the value of soccer rights.

Why?
We are talking about ondemand rights here.

andyf94 · 07-05-2010, 14:11

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Originally Posted by jam2000

It will no longer be on BTVision next season.

So you keep saying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you provide something to back up your statements. like a link?

jam2000 · 07-05-2010, 14:39

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Originally Posted by andyf94

So you keep saying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you provide something to back up your statements. like a link?

I dont have a link, but trust me it wont be on BTVision next season.

Hewjars · 07-05-2010, 15:46

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Originally Posted by jam2000

It will no longer be on BTVision next season.

Why should BT bother bidding when they can just let Sky pay for it? That way BT get Skysports on the cheap and sell it on to make easy money.

That's fair isn't it?

johnson293 · 07-05-2010, 16:59

So if I understand it correctly, BT may now be in a position to offer Sky Sports 1 and 2 for next season, but will definitely no longer be offering the catch-up full and highlighted replays of Premiership matches, as they had been?

So, while they may offer more 'Live' premiership football, BT could potentially be offering LESS premiership football overall than last season... and this is something many of their customers/subscribers actually wanted???

If I've got that wrong, i'm sure someone will be along to correct me.

jam2000 · 07-05-2010, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

Why should BT bother bidding when they can just let Sky pay for it? That way BT get Skysports on the cheap and sell it on to make easy money.

That's fair isn't it?

What are you on about? more inaccurate facts again!

Why should BT bother investing millions in fibre networks when Sky get it on the cheap?

andyf94 · 07-05-2010, 18:49

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Originally Posted by johnson293

If I've got that wrong, i'm sure someone will be along to correct me.

No mate, it sounds like (if others are to believed) you've got it right.

I'm just switching from Sky to BTVision, them getting live footie was part of my decision. I hadn't realised that they might be losing the rights to the non-televised games. I can understand why that might pi## some people off....me included, but overall live footie on BTVision was what I was after

andyf94 · 07-05-2010, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

Why should BT bother bidding when they can just let Sky pay for it? That way BT get Skysports on the cheap and sell it on to make easy money.

That's fair isn't it?

you're missing the point, Sky have become so powerful that there is no longer any effective competition to them buying sports rights.

On top of that they price the wholesale prices so high that there's no incentive for other companies to buy them, effectively creating a monopoly.

At that point dominant companies are in a position to 'abuse' their dominance, and so regulators step in, just like they do for water companies, electricity, gas etc.

A little competition is no bad thing...

stuntmaster · 07-05-2010, 23:32

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Originally Posted by andyf94

you're missing the point, Sky have become so powerful that there is no longer any effective competition to them buying sports rights.

On top of that they price the wholesale prices so high that there's no incentive for other companies to buy them, effectively creating a monopoly.

At that point dominant companies are in a position to 'abuse' their dominance, and so regulators step in, just like they do for water companies, electricity, gas etc.

A little competition is no bad thing...

I wholly agree there. Sky do charge extortionate amounts. At the same time have enough power and money that if any competition does try (example setanta) then they will end up bankrupt as they do not have the substantial amount of money sky do.

I do notice sky are in cahoots with ESPN. Sky Sports News advertises live football on ESPN in the ticker at the bottom.

I don't mind sky having the rights but to force a premium is unfair. with virgin cable you can subscribe the the minimal base pack which is £5 and still be allowed sky sports. With sky you need the base pack which is £16....

Hewjars · 08-05-2010, 10:58

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Originally Posted by stuntmaster

I wholly agree there. Sky do charge extortionate amounts. At the same time have enough power and money that if any competition does try (example setanta) then they will end up bankrupt as they do not have the substantial amount of money sky do.

I do notice sky are in cahoots with ESPN. Sky Sports News advertises live football on ESPN in the ticker at the bottom.

I don't mind sky having the rights but to force a premium is unfair. with virgin cable you can subscribe the the minimal base pack which is £5 and still be allowed sky sports. With sky you need the base pack which is £16....

That is wrong, you do not have to take the base pack on Sky to have Sky Sports.

jam2000 · 08-05-2010, 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewjars

That is wrong, you do not have to take the base pack on Sky to have Sky Sports.

Yes but if you dont you have to pay double the amount!

Hewjars · 08-05-2010, 11:01

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Originally Posted by jam2000

What are you on about? more inaccurate facts again!

Why should BT bother investing millions in fibre networks when Sky get it on the cheap?

What is inaccurate? BT haven't bothered bidding because they know they can just let Sky do it and then have a free ride selling their channels.

warrior51 · 08-05-2010, 11:22

I don't mind sky having the rights but to force a premium is unfair. with virgin cable you can subscribe the the minimal base pack which is £5 and still be allowed sky sports. With sky you need the base pack which is £16....[/quote]

A typical unhealthy hypocritical parallel pointed out. I presume then I can just take Sky Sports with BT Vision without taking their broadband?

04-05-2010, 10:34	#1
Homesdale Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London Posts: 6,797	Have BT got The Premier League on Demand Next Season? I think BT's deal to show the Premier League runs out this season. Does anyone know if a new deal has been sorted out for next season?

04-05-2010, 11:32	#2
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	Quote: Originally Posted by Homesdale I think BT's deal to show the Premier League runs out this season. Does anyone know if a new deal has been sorted out for next season? Nope BT dont have it next season.

04-05-2010, 12:56	#3
Mark. Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The dark side of the moon Posts: 51,381	Sky have retained the "Football First" rights, but there's been nothing in the reports to suggest that BT have kept them as well (last time, it was a joint bid).

04-05-2010, 20:31	#4
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by Mark. Sky have retained the "Football First" rights, but there's been nothing in the reports to suggest that BT have kept them as well (last time, it was a joint bid). I would have thought so. since BT is VOD, sky is merely an interactive channel. so quite different. you can't class Football first as VOD, as it won't be on demand the next day unlike BT vision. likewise there has been no reports to say they've lost it either.... maybe though.. BT may loose it due to sky sports 1 becoming available on DTT or supposedly coming available. thus the two would conflict like hell. as FF and BT Sport would have the same content.

05-05-2010, 12:41	#5
intercept Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 311	Click here

05-05-2010, 22:57	#6
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by intercept Click here does not really give an answer to the op`s question

06-05-2010, 06:35	#7
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	I can tell you now, no they dont have ondemand from next season.

06-05-2010, 07:22	#8
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by jam2000 I can tell you now, no they dont have ondemand from next season. Source?

06-05-2010, 09:36	#9
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	Quote: Originally Posted by andyf94 Source? BT of course

06-05-2010, 13:54	#10
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Quote: Originally Posted by Homesdale I think BT's deal to show the Premier League runs out this season. Does anyone know if a new deal has been sorted out for next season? I would have thought so. The EPL are bound to sell the rights to BT as it represents extra revenue for them. You have to ask yourself if anybody else would be interested in buying those rights. Viewers don't want to watch old football matches in their entirity. Not exactly a premium product is it?

06-05-2010, 14:47	#11
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	It will no longer be on BTVision next season.

06-05-2010, 15:33	#12
wgmorg Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,946	That would represent a demonstration that the OFCOM decision is resulting in a reduction of completion. It would appear that the EPL are correct in their belief that the OFCOM decision will reduce the value of soccer rights. Quote: Originally Posted by jam2000 It will no longer be on BTVision next season.

07-05-2010, 13:27	#13
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	Quote: Originally Posted by wgmorg That would represent a demonstration that the OFCOM decision is resulting in a reduction of completion. It would appear that the EPL are correct in their belief that the OFCOM decision will reduce the value of soccer rights. Why? We are talking about ondemand rights here.

07-05-2010, 14:11	#14
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by jam2000 It will no longer be on BTVision next season. So you keep saying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you provide something to back up your statements. like a link?

07-05-2010, 14:39	#15
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	Quote: Originally Posted by andyf94 So you keep saying. I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you provide something to back up your statements. like a link? I dont have a link, but trust me it wont be on BTVision next season.

07-05-2010, 15:46	#16
Hewjars Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 782	Quote: Originally Posted by jam2000 It will no longer be on BTVision next season. Why should BT bother bidding when they can just let Sky pay for it? That way BT get Skysports on the cheap and sell it on to make easy money. That's fair isn't it?

07-05-2010, 16:59	#17
johnson293 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243	So if I understand it correctly, BT may now be in a position to offer Sky Sports 1 and 2 for next season, but will definitely no longer be offering the catch-up full and highlighted replays of Premiership matches, as they had been? So, while they may offer more 'Live' premiership football, BT could potentially be offering LESS premiership football overall than last season... and this is something many of their customers/subscribers actually wanted??? If I've got that wrong, i'm sure someone will be along to correct me.

07-05-2010, 17:29	#18
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars Why should BT bother bidding when they can just let Sky pay for it? That way BT get Skysports on the cheap and sell it on to make easy money. That's fair isn't it? What are you on about? more inaccurate facts again! Why should BT bother investing millions in fibre networks when Sky get it on the cheap?

07-05-2010, 18:49	#19
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by johnson293 If I've got that wrong, i'm sure someone will be along to correct me. No mate, it sounds like (if others are to believed) you've got it right. I'm just switching from Sky to BTVision, them getting live footie was part of my decision. I hadn't realised that they might be losing the rights to the non-televised games. I can understand why that might pi## some people off....me included, but overall live footie on BTVision was what I was after

07-05-2010, 18:56	#20
andyf94 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny South Coast Posts: 298	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars Why should BT bother bidding when they can just let Sky pay for it? That way BT get Skysports on the cheap and sell it on to make easy money. That's fair isn't it? you're missing the point, Sky have become so powerful that there is no longer any effective competition to them buying sports rights. On top of that they price the wholesale prices so high that there's no incentive for other companies to buy them, effectively creating a monopoly. At that point dominant companies are in a position to 'abuse' their dominance, and so regulators step in, just like they do for water companies, electricity, gas etc. A little competition is no bad thing...

07-05-2010, 23:32	#21
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by andyf94 you're missing the point, Sky have become so powerful that there is no longer any effective competition to them buying sports rights. On top of that they price the wholesale prices so high that there's no incentive for other companies to buy them, effectively creating a monopoly. At that point dominant companies are in a position to 'abuse' their dominance, and so regulators step in, just like they do for water companies, electricity, gas etc. A little competition is no bad thing... I wholly agree there. Sky do charge extortionate amounts. At the same time have enough power and money that if any competition does try (example setanta) then they will end up bankrupt as they do not have the substantial amount of money sky do. I do notice sky are in cahoots with ESPN. Sky Sports News advertises live football on ESPN in the ticker at the bottom. I don't mind sky having the rights but to force a premium is unfair. with virgin cable you can subscribe the the minimal base pack which is £5 and still be allowed sky sports. With sky you need the base pack which is £16....

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Have BT got The Premier League on Demand Next Season?

08-05-2010, 10:58	#22
Hewjars Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 782	Quote: Originally Posted by stuntmaster I wholly agree there. Sky do charge extortionate amounts. At the same time have enough power and money that if any competition does try (example setanta) then they will end up bankrupt as they do not have the substantial amount of money sky do. I do notice sky are in cahoots with ESPN. Sky Sports News advertises live football on ESPN in the ticker at the bottom. I don't mind sky having the rights but to force a premium is unfair. with virgin cable you can subscribe the the minimal base pack which is £5 and still be allowed sky sports. With sky you need the base pack which is £16.... That is wrong, you do not have to take the base pack on Sky to have Sky Sports.

08-05-2010, 10:58	#23
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	Quote: Originally Posted by Hewjars That is wrong, you do not have to take the base pack on Sky to have Sky Sports. Yes but if you dont you have to pay double the amount!

08-05-2010, 11:01	#24
Hewjars Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 782	Quote: Originally Posted by jam2000 What are you on about? more inaccurate facts again! Why should BT bother investing millions in fibre networks when Sky get it on the cheap? What is inaccurate? BT haven't bothered bidding because they know they can just let Sky do it and then have a free ride selling their channels.

08-05-2010, 11:22	#25
warrior51 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 533	I don't mind sky having the rights but to force a premium is unfair. with virgin cable you can subscribe the the minimal base pack which is £5 and still be allowed sky sports. With sky you need the base pack which is £16....[/quote] A typical unhealthy hypocritical parallel pointed out. I presume then I can just take Sky Sports with BT Vision without taking their broadband?