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Old 05-05-2010, 02:23
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Sir Winston was a Knight.

I don't see a piece for Ep1 though. I still need to be convinced.

Chess has been used this way before in The Curse of Fenric. Every character plays a chess-piece in the story sub-text.
In the endgame you even have a soldier (pawn) reaching the end of the board and becoming an all powerful 'queen' and Ace has to move out of a chess fork/pin for The Doc to achieve check-mate.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:46
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Sir Winston was a Knight.
Brilliant!

I don't see a piece for Ep1 though. I still need to be convinced.
No, you don't! You just need to believe!
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:23
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Sir Winston was a Knight.
Not until 1953 though, so he wasn't during this episode.
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:31
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Oh right i see what you mean, sorry i thought someone had specifically been called a pawn. Thats a bit more tenuous then....

The pawn was in TEH - Jeff was looking at it on his Myth laptop!
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Old 05-05-2010, 14:37
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Main problem is that there just aren't enough pieces for regular chess to cover all the episodes.

Pawn Rook Knight Bishop Queen King
Even if you allow Castle and Horse as well, its only 8 and you'd expect to need at least 10.

Although, if we take WC as being a White Knight, we also had a Black(Red) Queen, so could we be straying into Alice/Carroll country?
In "through the looking glass", the White Queen is very absent-minded but boasts of (and demonstrates) her ability to remember future events before they have happened.

Can't match the others yet, but Carroll/Dodgson did a lot of this stuff - for instance "A boat beneath a sunny sky" is the first line of a titleless acrostic poem at the end of the book—the beginning letters of each line, when put together, spell Alice Pleasance Liddell.
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Old 05-05-2010, 14:55
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Main problem is that there just aren't enough pieces for regular chess to cover all the episodes.
Does it have to be all the episodes?

Although, if we take WC as being a White Knight, we also had a Black(Red) Queen, so could we be straying into Alice/Carroll country?
In "through the looking glass", the White Queen is very absent-minded but boasts of (and demonstrates) her ability to remember future events before they have happened.
Hmmm. Didn't the pre-series trailer get known as the 'rabbit-hole' trailer?
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Old 05-05-2010, 21:45
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Well, no but it's tidy to include one ref per story at least.

Although the rabbit hole was wonderland, not looking glass. Sure I've seen a pic of the Doc with a mirror ....

Although a mirror has to be good against angels I guess.
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Old 06-05-2010, 09:38
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In the Beast Below the Queen, Doctor and Amy were taken to 'The Tower' - could this be our castle?
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:03
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In the Beast Below the Queen, Doctor and Amy were taken to 'The Tower' - could this be our castle?
"A horse and a man, above, below, One has a plan, but both must go, Mile after mile, above, beneath, One has a smile, and one has teeth, though the man above might say hello, expect no love from the beast below."
A man and a horse is clearly a reference to a Knight. Nothing else it could be - I refuse to listen to any reasonable explanation about coincidences!
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:32
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So we have

Liz 10 Red Queen
Bishop Octavian
Sir Winston Churchill and/or The ref from TBB to a 'man and a horse'
The Tower from TBB
River Song - the white queen?

For chess we are sort of complete: for Alice we need:
# Hatta
# Haigha
# Humpty Dumpty (a sontaran?)
# Tweedledum and Tweedledee (twins?)
# The Walrus and the Carpenter (only one carpenter comes to mind)

The red King (presumably the White King is the DR and Amy is Alice)....
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Old 06-05-2010, 13:12
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Well, no but it's tidy to include one ref per story at least.

Although the rabbit hole was wonderland, not looking glass. Sure I've seen a pic of the Doc with a mirror ....

Although a mirror has to be good against angels I guess.
The mirror is in the next one, he sees the girls but doesn't see them in the mirror.
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