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Old 04-05-2010, 19:18
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Terry Pritchard is entitled to his opinion like everyone else and like everyone else I don't have to agree with him one iota!
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:20
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And the same goes for his neighbour, Terry Pratchett.
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:21
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And the same goes for his neighbour, Terry Pratchett.
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:31
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/...ludicrous.html

I'm inclined to agree with much of what he says, to be honest...
While he is entitled to his opinion, it does however seem to be said with a huge hint of jealousy that a working successful sc-fi franchise like DW is getting bums on seats whereas his adaptations for Sky are seen by little more than thousands.
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:32
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While he is entitled to his opinion, it does however seem to be said with a huge hint of jealousy that a working successful sc-fi franchise like DW is getting bums on seats whereas his adaptations for Sky are seen by little more than thousands.
Hmmm


Somehow I don't think Sir Tery will ever need to be jealous of Doctor Who.....as much as I love it....your more likely to find people who know more about Sir terry than you are of Doctor Who...the latter to some is just a tv show...
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:36
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While he is entitled to his opinion, it does however seem to be said with a huge hint of jealousy that a working successful sc-fi franchise like DW is getting bums on seats whereas his adaptations for Sky are seen by little more than thousands.
You're absolutely right. It's not as if Sir Terry was selling millions of his books worldwide. Oh no... wait... He does !
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:37
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That doesn't make it okay, you know.
Hello

There isn't a consensus of impropriety, nor a universal standard of moral rectitude.

It all falls under the wishy washy auspices of subjectivity.

More so, the original comment was made in a vacuum.

Unless the man occupies the same vacuum- <therefore, it ceases to be a vacuum> there is no victim.

A slight must have the slighted.
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:39
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While he is entitled to his opinion, it does however seem to be said with a huge hint of jealousy that a working successful sc-fi franchise like DW is getting bums on seats whereas his adaptations for Sky are seen by little more than thousands.
I suggest the FULL article which he wrote may be more informative than the edited version on DS.
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:46
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Has this thread descended into people using Prachett's words to attack either Moffat or RTD yet, from the usual suspects?


Yeah, seems like its going that way.

I found it intresting he didn't make any distinction between the
"eras" meaning he, like the majority of other viewers, cannot see any large difference in storytelling in this latest iteration of the series.

Still, I don't think he was too critical. He came off as saying "well, it's not exactly a hard science show, its an entertaining Saturday night series that I will continue watching"

And there's nothing really much wrong with that point of view

Who the hell would want hard science based topics on a Saturday night? Certainly not me
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:48
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Hello

There isn't a consensus of impropriety, nor a universal standard of moral rectitude.

It all falls under the wishy washy auspices of subjectivity.

More so, the original comment was made in a vacuum.

Unless the man occupies the same vacuum- <therefore, it ceases to be a vacuum> there is no victim.

A slight must have the slighted.
Still wasn't right, still wasn't funny and should have been removed by a mod. You can disagree with the man's opinion without making fun of a horrific illness that you clearly know nothing about - he could quite likely still be able to tell the time actually. As for there not being a consensus of impropriety, it seems most that acknowledged your comment did not find it in any way tasteful.
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:52
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Has this thread descended into people using Prachett's words to attack either Moffat or RTD yet, from the usual suspects?


Yeah, seems like its going that way.

I found it intresting he didn't make any distinction between the
"eras" meaning he, like the majority of other viewers, cannot see any large difference in storytelling in this latest iteration of the series.

Still, I don't think he was too critical. He came off as saying "well, it's not exactly a hard science show, its an entertaining Saturday night series that I will continue watching"

And there's nothing really much wrong with that point of view

Who the hell would want hard science based topics on a Saturday night? Certainly not me
And the interesting thing is he doesn't make it out as if this is a New Who thing only....however he does say that New Who made him beleive in it again...and is able to accept some absurdities, becuase of the fun and heart behind it it. So he says he should hate it, but doesn't....and that says something big.
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:55
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Not exactly a revelation about Doctor Who though is it?
I used to spend my weeks daydreaming and wondering how the Doctor would ever get out of the situation he was stuck with in Saturday night's cliffhanger only to find he just needed to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow!

Just like Pratchett, I still watch!
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:57
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I wouldn't get too het up - it's a shame when the opinion of one person you're a fan of doesn't like the other things you do. I used to be a huge fan of his work and his illness is a terrible thing but I find DS's increasingly questionable style of reporting to be more of a concern. Was this written by the same tit who keeps posting stories about some Aussie Radio journalist that no-one cares about ? Come on DS - time to let a few people go !
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Old 04-05-2010, 19:59
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Hello

Pratchett's Going Postal is coming to Sky One very soon.

Perhaps he's thinking- if they like DW- they'll like my postal.
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Old 04-05-2010, 20:00
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Not exactly a revelation about Doctor Who though is it?
I used to spend my weeks daydreaming and wondering how the Doctor would ever get out of the situation he was stuck with in Saturday night's cliffhanger only to find he just needed to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow!

Just like Pratchett, I still watch!
Exactly....47 years years of history...and not much changes!!!!
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Old 04-05-2010, 20:02
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EDIT: Forget it. I won't bother saying what I had to say.
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Old 04-05-2010, 20:22
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I think I do agree with some of what TP has said but I think a lot of those aspects of the new show is down to budget and tastes of viewers now. Loads of shows to choose from and not very many drama based shows that a family will sit a watch together weekly.

I mean away from soaps and Talent/reality shows which other TV show do people make time in there lifes to sit and watch as its broadcast.
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Old 04-05-2010, 20:29
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It should be pointed out at this stage that Terry Prattchett knows more about most things than most people.

Certainly more about story telling.

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Old 04-05-2010, 20:30
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Excellent author, and I agree with quite a few of his comments, I did notice he liked the 3 good episodes of S3 and also liked Empty child, so I would guess he is enjoying this series.

The McCoy years were dodgy, Jon Pertwee did seem to spend a lot of time on Earth.
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Old 04-05-2010, 20:34
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maybe TP should write an episode! Put his money where his mouth is.

Wouldn't it be great if he blew everyones mind
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Old 04-05-2010, 20:35
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maybe TP should write an episode! Put his money where his mouth is.

Wouldn't it be great if he blew everyones mind
I thought he handled Time Travel brilliantly (Night Watch).
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Old 04-05-2010, 20:53
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Has this thread descended into people using Prachett's words to attack either Moffat or RTD yet, from the usual suspects?

I was going to say that you read my mind.
I agree with TP. He's an excellent writer and he does have a point. He also said he would continue watching DW anyway.
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Old 04-05-2010, 21:14
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I'd agree with him too, especially with regards to the RTD era. Moffat doesn't seem to have the "where did that come from??" ending so much (so far), and the Doctor portrayed as vulnerable, where he wasn't before.

The thing to keep in mind, here folks, and most people have, is that TP offered constructive criticism, criticism from the second best selling British author, he didn't outright say "it was rubbish, I hate it," he said something different. And he still said he'd watch it. So you can't berate him for that
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Old 04-05-2010, 21:21
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You can imagine him shaking his head in disbelief at 'The Last of the Time Lords' because this is the kind of desperately poor Who he's on about here. Even the 'Tinkerbell' thing, ('cause that's who the Doctor resembles floating through the air!), the Doctor being this crazy godlike figure. That episode is probably the most disasterous in new Who and yet it STILL has good points about it, notably John Simm's performance as the Master and Murray Gold's brilliant Gallifrey music. So even the worst episodes are still watchable (just...).

However, anyone who's read Discworld books knows Terry is no stranger to Deus ex Machina-style resolutions so he doesn't have any right to rip off any other writers for using them! He is a brilliant writer, of course, but this sort of situation is often unavoidable. Writing yourself into a corner and then e.g....oh who would have thought this book also contained the right info to help me out of this cell...etc. that sort of thing. It can't be helped.
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Old 04-05-2010, 21:26
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I implore anybody to read the "full" article - he doesn't criticise DW or call it ludicrous in so many words - in fact he quite enjoys the ludicrous bits. HE is still a fan - he enjoys it.

I don't know why DS are making a mountain out of this.
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