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Terry Pratchett criticises Doctor Who, accuses it of makeitupasyougoalongeum |
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I would rather watch one bad episode of Dr Who than read a single word of that idiots books.
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I would rather watch one bad episode of Dr Who than read a single word of that idiots books.
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I would rather watch one bad episode of Dr Who than read a single word of that idiots books.
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He is intelligent I grant you that, but the interest I have in a flat planet on the back of animals is something I cannot muster and fail to see how that concept is in itself not ludicrous. I am probably missing out on something special, but I have tried so very hard...and failed.
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He is intelligent I grant you that, but the interest I have in a flat planet on the back of animals is something I cannot muster and fail to see how that concept is in itself not ludicrous.
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Yeh thats kind of the point thought.
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Idiot as in "idiotic remarks that he makes sometimes" no one is doubting his intelligence quota.
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He is intelligent I grant you that, but the interest I have in a flat planet on the back of animals is something I cannot muster and fail to see how that concept is in itself not ludicrous. I am probably missing out on something special, but I have tried so very hard...and failed.
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TPs comment about the "axe in act one" set me thinking. We're all so used to that style of writing that it's now become a cliche and spotting "the axe" has become too easy, which spoils the denoument when it gets used in act three. I think a better example of how to do it is season two of "Breaking Bad", where the opening sequence of each episode showed the consequences of the "axe" but what the "axe" was, wasn't explained in the plot until the last episode - and it was beautifully done. (If you haven't watched S2 of Breaking Bad, none of that will make any sense!!!)
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Totally agree with Pterry's remarks (you can tell from that that I'm a Pratchett fan, and of the same generation).
Dr Who is not science fiction - it has been science fantasy from the very first episode, which I remember. (and Mr. Pratchett) there. Science Fiction is a genre concerned with what might happen , not with what could never happen . Alien with time/space machine disguised as earthly item (police box?). Very unlikely, but could happen. Evil mutants in pepperpot shaped-war machines on distant planet? Could happen. Now, if the TARDIS was a magic Narnia-styled cabinet, and the Doctor was a wizard, and the Daleks were monsters who used black magic, it would be fantasy, because these things could never happen. |
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you
(and Mr. Pratchett) there. Science Fiction is a genre concerned with what might happen , not with what could never happen . Alien with time/space machine disguised as earthly item (police box?). Very unlikely, but could happen. Evil mutants in pepperpot shaped-war machines on distant planet? Could happen. Now, if the TARDIS was a magic Narnia-styled cabinet, and the Doctor was a wizard, and the Daleks were monsters who used black magic, it would be fantasy, because these things could never happen. In the Girl in the Fireplace, when the Doctor and Co come across the fireplace, this is the dialogue that we hear: The Doctor: Must be a spatio-temporal hyperlink. Mickey Smith: What's that? The Doctor: No idea, I just made it up. Didn't want to say "Magic Door" Says it all really
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There is a very thin line between both of those things....its just a matter of sci-fi tecno babble or magical words that separate the both...and the best example i give you is of the very writer that now people are saying has returned Doctor Who to its sci-fi roots...
In the Girl in the Fireplace, when the Doctor and Co come across the fireplace, this is the dialogue that we hear: The Doctor: Must be a spatio-temporal hyperlink. Mickey Smith: What's that? The Doctor: No idea, I just made it up. Didn't want to say "Magic Door" Says it all really ![]() science fiction writer, (and DW fan) who said: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.. I suppose this is just a fan thing-people tuning in for an exciting adventure on Saturday night don't worry if the show is sci-fi (like DW) or fantasy (like Merlin). But for me, Doctor Who always felt as if it were in the tradition of H.G. Wells and Isaac Asimov, not Lewis Carroll and J.R.R. Tolkien. |
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Of course, there's also one very famous
science fiction writer, (and DW fan) who said: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.. |
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Not a fan of Mr Pratchett. I am a fan of Dr Who. No contest.
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Up until this year, I'd have a greed with him. Tennant was almost too close to God for comfort. A bit too brilliant, and that awful bit in The Last of the Time Lords.....(eugh, why can't the crack in the universe delete THAT from my memory!?)
This year though is different.
Spoiler
I'm liking the new run which is showing a vulnerable side to the Doctor that hasn't really been seen since the Peter Davison years..... (I've spoilered those in case an overseas viewer wanders in...) Davison was much my favorite Doctor for a long time, though McCoy ranks highly on my list, but that's for his last season and the New Adventures, which don't obviously count. Ecclestone's Doctor is flawed, so is MAtt Smith's. Refreshing! |
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