Originally Posted by Helbore:
“We just watched the Doctor happily wave off a woman who he'd just found out had murdered a good man and you're worried about the morals of a girl deciding to kiss the Doctor?
I just don't get it? Where's all the moral outrage about the Doctor letting River Song wander off after keeping secrets of her being a killer from him?
Heck, why is no-one concerned about the Angels talking aout snapping people's necks and stripping their brains out their bodies - but are shocked to high heaven that sex is referenced in subtle ways?
It's baffling that parents (people who obviously have had sex and found nothing wrong with it) can get so worked up over implied sex, but not bat an eyelid at implied violence.
That's where your job as a parent comes in. It shouldn't be hard, either, seeing as the doctor rejected her advances.
"You see, sweetheart, the Doctor knows that kissing someone when you are engaged to someone else is a bad thing to do and that's why he said no to Amy. Amy was being naughty and that's why the Doctor pushed her away."
It's not hard. You just have to raise your own children, instead of expecting the rest of the world to conform to what you want your child to see/hear.
That's not the fault of Doctor Who. It's the fault of the dodgy newspapers you choose to read. It's hilarious that people think a TV show can really lead to bad behaviour in children. Bad parenting leads to bad behaviour in children. Pretending certain things don't exist in reality leads to bad behaviour in children. And stop reading the Daily Mail!
Besides, the Doctor clearly didn't think the adultery/casual sex thing was fine. It's not like he jumped into bed with her.
Oh those bad TV shows, making you have to explain things to your children.
How easy it must have been in years gone by when parents didn't have to talk to their kids or lay down rules for them. Oh wait...
Yes, it's sad that some people seem to think that their bubble-wrapped, PC idea of morality is actually benefitting of society.
It's a shame that some parents are so scared of implied sex that they'd ban their kids from watching something. It's not like we saw the Doctor pounding away on top of Amy, with her screaming for mercy, is it? It's not even like we heard her say, "I want you to have sex with me, Doctor." She kissed him, made a few comments that only make sense if you already know what sex and the Doctor said no. It's hardly "Debbie Does Dallas," is it?
I just don't get why people are so scared of sex.
Heck, I was watching James Bond films when I was at Primary school (as were all my friends) and they have more sexual references than that one Doctor Who scene. It's not like we even cared about the sex, let alone grew up into a bunch of deviants because of it.”
“We just watched the Doctor happily wave off a woman who he'd just found out had murdered a good man and you're worried about the morals of a girl deciding to kiss the Doctor?
I just don't get it? Where's all the moral outrage about the Doctor letting River Song wander off after keeping secrets of her being a killer from him?
Heck, why is no-one concerned about the Angels talking aout snapping people's necks and stripping their brains out their bodies - but are shocked to high heaven that sex is referenced in subtle ways?
It's baffling that parents (people who obviously have had sex and found nothing wrong with it) can get so worked up over implied sex, but not bat an eyelid at implied violence.
That's where your job as a parent comes in. It shouldn't be hard, either, seeing as the doctor rejected her advances.
"You see, sweetheart, the Doctor knows that kissing someone when you are engaged to someone else is a bad thing to do and that's why he said no to Amy. Amy was being naughty and that's why the Doctor pushed her away."
It's not hard. You just have to raise your own children, instead of expecting the rest of the world to conform to what you want your child to see/hear.
That's not the fault of Doctor Who. It's the fault of the dodgy newspapers you choose to read. It's hilarious that people think a TV show can really lead to bad behaviour in children. Bad parenting leads to bad behaviour in children. Pretending certain things don't exist in reality leads to bad behaviour in children. And stop reading the Daily Mail!
Besides, the Doctor clearly didn't think the adultery/casual sex thing was fine. It's not like he jumped into bed with her.
Oh those bad TV shows, making you have to explain things to your children.
How easy it must have been in years gone by when parents didn't have to talk to their kids or lay down rules for them. Oh wait...Yes, it's sad that some people seem to think that their bubble-wrapped, PC idea of morality is actually benefitting of society.
It's a shame that some parents are so scared of implied sex that they'd ban their kids from watching something. It's not like we saw the Doctor pounding away on top of Amy, with her screaming for mercy, is it? It's not even like we heard her say, "I want you to have sex with me, Doctor." She kissed him, made a few comments that only make sense if you already know what sex and the Doctor said no. It's hardly "Debbie Does Dallas," is it?
I just don't get why people are so scared of sex.
Heck, I was watching James Bond films when I was at Primary school (as were all my friends) and they have more sexual references than that one Doctor Who scene. It's not like we even cared about the sex, let alone grew up into a bunch of deviants because of it.”
Thank you! Some common sense. I think people tend to forget we were also exposed to more explicit sex scenes as children. And I'm sure most of us are not rampant whores.
And as you say, it is a parent's job to keep their children on the right path, not the job of a TV programme.
