Isn't that a bit harsh? I agree there are a lot of Tennant lovers out there who are a bit obsessive but it's still their right to be like that. I may not agree with their views one iota but to label them pathetic.....not good.

Just to add, I'm not a Tennant lover. I like his Doctor hell of a lot but I'm not missing him at all.

Every Doctor? I wouldn't go that far at all

Was this David Tennant the Doctor then? You mean Tom Baker's not in the role anymore?

I love David Tennant and his version of the Doctor was my fave but I'm not missing him in the role, I think it was the right time for a change of actor and it was the right time for David to try new things. I think Dr Who has propelled him to a whole new audience and has made him one of the countries most wanted actor, I can see big things for Tennant not just over here but in the US too and that is all because of Dr Who. Matt Smith deserves a chance, he can act and although he has kept some of Tens character in his version he has brought his own style. I hope he gets a long run like Tennant because I think he is going to get better as he grows into the role.

I agree with you. Not all Doctors become as popular as Tennant did with the role. The public take certain people in the role into their hearts, but not all of them. I thought Christopher Ecclestone was very good in the role yet he is hardly mentioned now.

That is actually amazing.

Unfortunately Marvel UK was, with a few exceptions, bloody awful.

Colin was fairly popular at the time, he was still getting fairly good ratings throughout his tenure. His sacking got the BBC a lot of negative press.

I bought it during Alan Moores run on Captain Britain and thought that was tuppin' marvelous

Thanks for the information, and I'm really happy to hear that. I still think it's abominable how they treated him, and I really liked his doctor and I think he is a lovely person as well (according to fan descriptions and interviews).

Lets not drag emo into this car crash of a thread, it may cause me to go into a rant about misuse of the word and its origins in 1980's punk like fugazi and Rights of Spring.

And no one wants a musical history lesson.

Most "emo's" I know are acctually quite happy. They have very good hair and the opposite sex tend to like this.

Yeh that was one of the exceptions I was thinking of.

Mostly **** though. I used to work in a comic shop, where the 10p comic section could just has easily have been the Marvel UK section.

au contraire, I was always a fan! OK, not so much during Neil's tenure, but after dez Skinn took over in '79 they put out some pretty good stuff and that continued into the early eighties. Crikey! magazine has just concluded a six part series looking at the history of Marvel UK (written by..erm...me ) and having researched that little lot, I can tell you it's a fascinating subject (well, it is if you're a comics historian, anyway).

Yep-and most of it's just been released (again) as a collected edition by Panini, along with the last half of the Black Knight epic from 1980. Captain Britain volume IV: The Siege of Camelot. Brilliant book.

Not being considered collectible doesn't make something bad, only unappreciated. Personally, I think Marvel's The Daredevils was about the most groundbreaking title in British comics history.

I remember reading Dez Skinz book "Comix" and coming to the conclusion that our taste in comics must be vastly different.

Really good book I should add, but yeh I don't think we're on the same page in terms of taste. This might be at the heart of my general lack of appreciation for marvel UK. I've noticed when I look through my comic book collection that I seem to go for Uk artists writing for US publishers. I have no idea what this means but erm, it means something.

No, as I recall 'Comix' was about Dez's particular passion, underground comics-and they've never appealed to me, either. None of that came through in the stuff he put out for Marvel. If it had, he'd have been straight out the door.

As far as your last point goes: me, too. Thing is, most of the British talent who revolutionised US comics in the 80s and 90s actually started out either with 2000AD or Marvel UK (or in many cases, both). Interestingly, when one of the larger US comics newsgroups ran a poll to find the three most popular and influential comic creators ever, all three were British-Alan Moore, Grant Morrison and Neil Gaiman!

David Tennant will always be my favourite Doctor.

When I saw the title of this thread I thought he was dead and got really really scared about that multi Doctors story I'm hoping for !

Yip and add Warren Ellis and Mark Miller, and you basicaly have my top 5 comics writers.

I've always thought that more conservative US editors had an unexpectedly possitive impact on the writers you have mentioned. In that they constrained the wonderfully creative but sometimes genuinely mental story ideas. They stopped them going too far in a way. I think they did their best work in American comics. Thats not to say they didn't do great work over here.

But yeh, as a general rule I came across more good than bad in marvel UK, and the bad was truly awfull. There is one particular early nineties series i remember buying when i was very very young because it was an X-men cross over which i genuinely belive to be the worst comic i've ever read. (And I read Chuck Austins X-men ). The name escapes me though.

Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol was as mental as anything he ever wrote over here-but it was oddly compelling all the same. On the other hand Kevin O'Neill, one of 2000ADs most talented artists, caused a huge controversy when he went to work for DC in nAmerica, as the ultra conservative Comics Code Authority found his entire art style offensive!
X-Force, maybe? Rob Liefeld could have given a masterclass on how not to draw the human form.

Yip, can't help but think of Sebastian O and the Invisibles which were also truly insane (and truly fantastic)

On the other hand Morrisons work on new X-men and and Justice league was straightforward in comparison, lets not talk about Animal man, still freaks me out a little.

Good god X-force was awfull (Mike Aldred run aside) but no it was definately marvel UK, Dark Angel or something. Truly terrible. I was 6 when I read it, but i don't think i was missing anything subtle....

Costas, didn't you know no one is allowed to talked about DT because it is 'old news' even though it is perfectly acceptable to talk about Doctors from 20/30/40 years ago.

But don't talk about a Doctor from a year ago, that is just too much for some.

Of course if you were praising something they agreed with it would be a different story, if this thread was how much you disliked DT that would be fine.

I hope you have learnt your lesson.

the thread title makes it sound like DT had died or something....way to alarm people!

I think a lot of people like DT, and lot of people like MS. I think Doctor Who has always been about change to be honest, and the audience's ability to adapt to it. I do feel sympathetic towards the OP, because I remember how upset I was when Sylvester McCoy turned into Paul McCann (I know he was considered sh*te by most people). No doctor should ever be forgotten, but to be truthful, if you watch Dr Who, you better get used to change otherwise you set yourself up for a huge disappointment.

I agree very much...for me my first Doctor was Chris...and I remember cursins DT a hell of a lot for taking over the role. But obviously in the end I had no worries, because he became my favourite...usually old fans try to see old Doctors in the new one...for me as new fan, I watched Classic Series, and saw the Tenth Doctor in them...which made me feel that yep this was the same show....and wow at all those different choices out there. I'm very much looking forward to DT's other projects....and at the same time looking forwrd to where Matt Smith will be taking us with his Eleventh Doctor too...



So this whole things of talking about fellow posters....it wasn't how you rolled was it? Supposedly



Ofcourse he will be....the show makes the actor...not the other way round...thing is when Matt leaves...and the new guy comes along...we will have similar threads as this...and some people will be telling them to get over as well...


Oh come on he left about a hundred years ago.....get over it!

Whilst this thread hasn't been as bad as some similar threads get...and people have ended up having a good interesting converstations...if slightly of topic...you do have a point.

If someone had started a thread about any of the past Doctors....you wouldn't have got the "Who? joke that has been done to death...or have people asking the OP to move on. As was the example of the recent Jon Pertwee thread....yes that descended into rubbish...but for a different reason, not because the OP started a thread on Jon Pertwee. And it actually makes more sense, even if the hundreds of threads on the subject are a bit tiresome...that there will be people who are still thinking of whoever the last Doctor is....like I said...mark my words, when Smith leaves...the same pattern will repeat.