The only thing that's obvious to me from that episode is that there is no way young Amy would be left alone in that house...

Maybe when the Doc mentioned that if you fall through the crack in time then it is worse then death (because you will never have even existed) he has basically told us what has happened to Amy's family... mmmmm

The crack in Amy's bedroom led to the Atraxi Prison not to the end of time as the one in ToA/F&S did.

So if Amy's parents fell through that they are in the Atraxi prison.

Plus Amelia could still remember her Mother which she wouldn't have done* if she was wiped from existance.

*Unless they are saying that because Amy would go on to be a Time Traveller her ability to remember people erased from time (as seen F&S) was also something her pretimetravelling younger self could do as well. A bit like Donna hearing the heartbeats before the metacrisis thingy.

Hmmm. There's been plenty of speculation that little Amelia travels with the Doctor after the very first time they met, but before she got picked up as an adult - anybody put any thought into the idea that she got picked up (by the Doc, or by some other time traveller) when she was even younger? Like, too young to remember, before her parents disappeared?

(Of course they would have to explain why she still existed, if her parents never did.)

There's a scene in the kitchen where the Doctor says something like: "Amelia Pond. Sounds like a name in a fairy tale."

It just registered in my brain for some reason and I remembered it again with the mention of fairy tales to River Song. Probably nothing. LOL!

Very true, though of all the people who post on DS, apart from me there has only been one other person who has commented on the second flight of stairs that go up to the non-existent attic in Amelia's house... Is it that no-one else gives my observation any credence, or are people too embarrassed at not noticing it to say anything ?

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There's a staircase leading up to the attic door, which may or may not be unusual for that kind of house (I'm no expert). But what sort of significance does that have?

It's difficult to separate significant details from insignificant details - there's no clue as to why they might be significant.

Thought it was something involving all that 'cos I thought the hospital looked like the one in CAL's world (In SITL) but I am probably wrong

Not in episode 1, but the way the Dreamlord said Leadworth was 'the village time forgot' made me wonder if he meant it literally not figuratively.

Perhaps, but given that the Doctor, himself, said that it was a dull place, you would imagine that his 'evil self' would feel that way even more so. So I'm guessing in this case it's much more likely to be figuratively.

I think it's definitely intended to hint at something strange, but it's just as likely to be a red herring.

In rewatching Amy's Choice, noticed that we don't see any clocks: not in Amy and Rory's house, not in in the village (not in the tardis, but then that's not surprising) , or the Old peoples home...

Given that TEH seemed to have a clock in almost every shot (certainly in Amy's house), it has to be related to the time (and of course the name of the episode implies this).

No, I rewatched it last week, but forgot to react
Yes, the house looks like it has only two levels, although very possible to have an attick. So to have another staircase is not that strange. But yes, at first there is a light seen shining, and only a bit later we see the entrance closed by a white trap door.
So there could well be someone else in the house. Maybe the, much rumoured about, secondary Doctor.

Who cast that fleeting shadow in the back of one scene...?

yeah the shadow seems right to me.

another thing, Amy's praying to Santa? At Easter?

It was a joke & She said 'Sorry for waking you up' or something like that.

That's my reading of that scene as well.

So is this subplot in The Lodger a coincidence or a deliberate copy ?

Or was Karl Pilkington onto something weeks ago ?



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Neither. Nothing is wrong with Amelia's/Amy's house.

My aunt lives in one very similar.

And Karl Pilkington has to be one of the biggest buffoons I've ever listened to... Seriously? You're thinking he of all people is on to something...

Say what you like about him but this much I know for sure....

He most definitely has a head like a f****** orange *




*This is a reference to Karl Pilkington so please dont ban me for swearing

Indeed he does have a head like a f****** orange!

Good point, but was the village in AC Leadworth? I thought it was somewhere else. Doesn't Rory pointedly state that it's full name is 'upper' somewhere? I assumed that in-story Rory and Amy had moved somewhere else after they married, perhaps to do with Rory's job as a doctor. The real reason, if I'm right, is so that the village in AC could be weird without stepping on the toes of Leadworth's weirdness. Of course, since the village scenes in AC were a dream the difference is there anyway, but perhaps they writer just wanted to make the distinction doubly clear.

Chimpanzee that!.....

Upper leadworth

Many thanks.

I've wondered for weeks whether the thing that we've been missing is where does the staircase next to Amy's bedroom go to? Maybe the additional door on the first floor was meant to draw our attention away from it and The Lodger tonight was meant to remind us of it.