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Skysports/freesat
Given the recent ofcom ruling about skysports going on top up tv but i am surprised there has been no mention on freesat they have the hdr boxes with the cam slot to possibly take sky sports but i am a bit amazed nothing has been said.
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You can't directly get a pay channel on Freesat. Even if a box can take a CAM it still needs someone to provide all the payment processing, encryption and access facilities.
So it's really off topic for the Freesat form. Doubly so for the Freesat+ forum. |
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You can't directly get a pay channel on Freesat. Even if a box can take a CAM it still needs someone to provide all the payment processing, encryption and access facilities.
So it's really off topic for the Freesat form. Doubly so for the Freesat+ forum. |
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Any pay stations I think would have to be net based as a CAM slot is not part of the basic freesat spec
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Any pay stations I think would have to be net based as a CAM slot is not part of the basic freesat spec
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Too restrictive - assuming any such thing ever happens, it will be based on a new Freesat box with a CAM slot.
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The Sky Player is already starting to appear on Freeview boxes such as 3view and I think the new Humax one, so I don't see why this won't happen with the next generation of Freesat boxes. Why is it too restrictive?
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... appear on Freeview boxes such as 3view ...
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Much of the UK doesn't have sufficient internet speed, plus where is all the bandwidth going to come from?.
You can stream the iplayer with 1 mb download. 3view not an official freeview player, but can watch all freeview channels except for the BBC red button. Also fingers crossed projec canvas boxes will be out this year also. |
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There are plenty of online players available now, they don't seem to be bothered about bandwith.
, which is substantially poorer than broadcasts.It's OK as long as you have a decent bitrate on your ADSl, AND not many other people are doing the same. Don't forget your 2Mb or whatever is shared by up to something like 50 people - if only ten of them are watching IPTV them your bitrate is down to only 200Kb. People seem to ignore contention ratios. |
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People seem to ignore contention ratios.
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And some people do not fully understand how contention actually works in practise either.
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Given the recent ofcom ruling about skysports going on top up tv but i am surprised there has been no mention on freesat they have the hdr boxes with the cam slot to possibly take sky sports but i am a bit amazed nothing has been said.
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Or about picture quality
, which is substantially poorer than broadcasts.People seem to ignore contention ratios. I have long advocated that those of us on long lines at barely 1Meg should in all fairness be in contention ratio groups of say 10 not 50.. No idea if that is feasible or not. Stan |
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Or about picture quality
, which is substantially poorer than broadcasts.It's OK as long as you have a decent bitrate on your ADSl, AND not many other people are doing the same. Don't forget your 2Mb or whatever is shared by up to something like 50 people - if only ten of them are watching IPTV them your bitrate is down to only 200Kb. People seem to ignore contention ratios. The higher quality option on the Freesat only needs 2mb and the picture quality is ok on my 40" telly. As peoples speeds go up (which they will) then so will the quality. BBC HD on the online version of iplayer looks superb on my imac screen. Hopefully they will relay this out so I can watch this through my Humax HDR. TV streamed online is here to stay |
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I agree Nigel and that applies to the broadband companies.. I have NOT even seen the term mentioned in the last year or so..
I have long advocated that those of us on long lines at barely 1Meg should in all fairness be in contention ratio groups of say 10 not 50.. No idea if that is feasible or not. Stan You are not contending for the local loop so the fact that there are people far from the exchange with very slow connections means that the contention ratios are not likely (or not as likely) to come into play. Of course if it was just you with a slow line and you were being multiplexed with a lot of people getting 8Mb you might have cause for complaint (but even then, the fact that you were not trying to get 8Mb would mean that any contention would affect you less). |
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I am obliged and consoled a little as i now can think of it as 'Peak Clipping'..
I hate it when BT say the National Average is over 4megs when millions within 50miles of London are under 2Megs!! Stan |
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I hate it when BT say the National Average is over 4megs when millions within 50miles of London are under 2Megs!!
Edit: In fact because broadband speed has a non-uniform distribution it is likely that the majority of people have below average connection speed. |
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, which is substantially poorer than broadcasts.