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Jenny didn't bond with the dog so couldn't possibly be Dorothy
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xfactorfan27
08-05-2010
What a load of rubbish and as for the Lord saying that was his reasoning behind getting rid of her-why couldn't he just be honest and say he didn't like her....


I bet they trained that dog to run away from blondes
ellie4265
08-05-2010
Yeah, what a pathetic excuse to get rid of her. Dog rapport sessions should have been part of the original audition process, if it was that crucial!
ianswaiting
08-05-2010
I doubt it had anything to do with the dog. Lauren was just a lot better but saying it was the dog was probably his way of dressing it to soften the blow.
jill1812
08-05-2010
Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“I doubt it had anything to do with the dog. Lauren was just a lot better but saying it was the dog was probably his way of dressing it to soften the blow.”

The dog VT was his way of making sure she was in that sing off.
MrsRobinson
08-05-2010
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“The dog VT was his way of making sure she was in that sing off.”

I agree with you and I hope Jenny will get something better than playing a 12-year old girl!!!
JoJo4
08-05-2010
I'm sure that if he particularly wanted Jenny as Dorothy he'd find ways round the dog issue - I can see that it has to matter.

I wasn't keen on Jenny in the beginning but she grew on me and her voice seems to have improved too. I don't see her as Dorothy but that said, she'd make a better Dorothy than Jessica - I don't see how she gets more votes than Jenny and Lauren???
Iphigenia
08-05-2010
I thought it rougher on Lauren, to be told that was the only way she was better than Jenny,was that she was slightly more of a canophile than Jenny.
xfactorfan27
08-05-2010
Originally Posted by Iphigenia:
“I thought it rougher on Lauren, to be told that was the only way she was better than Jenny,was that she was slightly more of a canophile than Jenny.”

Lol! Well the whole thing was ridiculous-it had nothing to do with the dog!
soapgirlhere
08-05-2010
As someone else posted, if the dog thing was such an issue then they should have addressed it earlier on. I really liked Jenny but I do think it was her time to go.
-Sid-
08-05-2010
Originally Posted by soapgirlhere:
“As someone else posted, if the dog thing was such an issue then they should have addressed it earlier on. I really liked Jenny but I do think it was her time to go.”

Very reasonable.

The girls should have been asked if they had a pet dog or whether they were good with dogs in the initial interview process. It's vital for the relationship between Dorothy and Toto to be plausible.

But this issue aside, Jenny has been receiving negative comments for a while now. It wasn't a travesty that she went or anything.
bel110
08-05-2010
Originally Posted by Iphigenia:
“I thought it rougher on Lauren, to be told that was the only way she was better than Jenny,was that she was slightly more of a canophile than Jenny.”

That's so funny .... and true

Quite frankly the dog thing was ridiculous and manipulated as much as possible to highlight ALW's favourites ...

We saw about 2 seconds of Danielle and it didn't look very exciting but according to ALW she was amazing ... Sophie did well with the dog but more importantly took the bedding with her and would therefore be a risk to scenery ... Jenny couldn't control the dog and the others were bedgrudingly ok ... think he implied Steph had problems with the dog but from the VT it all looked hunky dory .... what a load of dog poo ....
Abbasolutely 40
08-05-2010
Originally Posted by bel110:
“That's so funny .... and true

Quite frankly the dog thing was ridiculous and manipulated as much as possible to highlight ALW's favourites ...

We saw about 2 seconds of Danielle and it didn't look very exciting but according to ALW she was amazing ... Sophie did well with the dog but more importantly took the bedding with her and would therefore be a risk to scenery ... Jenny couldn't control the dog and the others were bedgrudingly ok ... think he implied Steph had problems with the dog but from the VT it all looked hunky dory .... what a load of dog poo ....”

I know , made me howl all a load of ...............
performingmonk
08-05-2010
The dog issue was irrelevant, just an excuse. Jenny has always been the weakest of them in terms of movement on stage. I think they all knew it was her time to go, it just felt right.
Flying_high
08-05-2010
It was a stupid reason to give.
thenetworkbabe
08-05-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“Very reasonable.

The girls should have been asked if they had a pet dog or whether they were good with dogs in the initial interview process. It's vital for the relationship between Dorothy and Toto to be plausible.

But this issue aside, Jenny has been receiving negative comments for a while now. It wasn't a travesty that she went or anything.”

I haven't had a dog since I was a teen but the neighbours dogs lick me on sight . The reason is I give them food.....they will quite happily take food off anyone come over, jump in the air and wag their tails for it. Thats what Sheridan Smith and Amy Lennox use in Legally Blonde - the dogs go to it and are rewarded with it. The Legally Blonde dogs run off all the time too.

Its true Jenny has been getting criticism but a lot of that didn't make much sense either.
-Sid-
09-05-2010
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“I haven't had a dog since I was a teen but the neighbours dogs lick me on sight . The reason is I give them food.....they will quite happily take food off anyone come over, jump in the air and wag their tails for it. Thats what Sheridan Smith and Amy Lennox use in Legally Blonde - the dogs go to it and are rewarded with it. The Legally Blonde dogs run off all the time too.

Its true Jenny has been getting criticism but a lot of that didn't make much sense either.”

It did to me.
jill1812
09-05-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“It did to me.”

Yes flawless vocals and emotion connection to the song are just calling out to be criticised.
MrsRobinson
09-05-2010
Originally Posted by xfactorfan27:
“Lol! Well the whole thing was ridiculous-it had nothing to do with the dog!”

I agree... and that wee dog wasn't Toto anyway and maybe he didn't want to be fussed around with.... and had Jenny been with him earlier on, he may well have stayed beside her and he probably had enough by the time Jenny was with him!!!

By the time the show starts in several months time they will have a well trained Toto who will respond to any of the girls, so what ALW said was utter tosh!
-Sid-
09-05-2010
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“Yes flawless vocals and emotion connection to the song are just calling out to be criticised.”

I found some of her vocals nasally (as Charlotte pointed out) and I don't think she sold some of her performances enough (which John and Sheila picked up on).

I know you're a fan Jill and I'm sorry she's gone for your sake but I didn't rate Jenny as much as the others girls and agreed with most of the panels comment's about her.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

(Loved 'Songbird' though).
MrsRobinson
09-05-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I found some of her vocals nasally (as Charlotte pointed out) and I don't think she sold some of her performances enough (which John and Sheila picked up on).

I know you're a fan Jill and I'm sorry she's gone for your sake but I didn't rate Jenny as much as the others girls and agreed with most of the panels comment's about her.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

(Loved 'Songbird' though).”

If only Jenny had done Songbird tonight instead of that awful Clowns song!!!!
xfactorfan27
09-05-2010
She should have sung Songbird every week! I for one would never have tired of hearing her version!
Amy76
09-05-2010
Yes it was a total joke of a reason to get rid of Jenny. ALW should have been honest and said that he felt that Lauren was a stronger singer (which she is).

The dog used in the clip we saw is not the actor that will be playing Toto anyway, and surely whoever is chosen as Dorothy will have months to build up a rapport with the actual Toto that she will be working with.

I thought Jenny was good as a singer, but for me was not Dorothy as I felt she didn't look right for the part. The dog issue did not swing my opinion at all.
Becker
09-05-2010
I hope the dog turns rabid. We'll see how much bonding it will be doing with people then.
xfactorfan27
09-05-2010
Originally Posted by Amy76:
“Yes it was a total joke of a reason to get rid of Jenny. ALW should have been honest and said that he felt that Lauren was a stronger singer (which she is).

The dog used in the clip we saw is not the actor that will be playing Toto anyway, and surely whoever is chosen as Dorothy will have months to build up a rapport with the actual Toto that she will be working with.

I thought Jenny was good as a singer, but for me was not Dorothy as I felt she didn't look right for the part. The dog issue did not swing my opinion at all.”

Exactly. I make no bones about the fact I prefer Jenny to Lauren, but obviously realise that Lauren is the better singer and if the Lord had said that I would have had no problem, but to use the dog as an excuse was just wrong.
Eleven_Eleven
09-05-2010
Wait until you see the actual mission with the dogs tonight, from what I've heard it was a bit unfair on one of the girls!!
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