sorry for the noobishness here, but there's a lot of talk of the Doctor being responsible for the death of an entire species/race which other alien races appear to be aware of (kind of "fame" for their murder)

which was it?? I've no idea which it refers to, and keep wondering if it's the Daleks (although they're in every series now so it's hardly an entire species wiped out when they crop back up again and again)

His own people, the Time Lords. Though he has in fact been responsible for other acts of genocide in the past (the Vervoids in Trial of a Time Lord for one).

The timelords... The Racnoss. The Vervoids... Take your pick.

Edited - Darn it ting you're too quick for me!

haha! thanks! I thought it was something like the Racnoss, but I've seen some episodes where the bad guy refers to him as the man who wiped out an entire race and wasn't sure which it was (sorry, I've only recently got back into Who)

Help blow up Mondas the home of the Cybermen. He destroyed all of the Wirren

Didn't the Wirren choose to destroy themselves basically... Or have I remembered something wrong there...

He ended the Time War, therefore killing his own race, and what he thought was killing all the daleks.

Genocide isn't killing the last of a race. Its the killing of people because of their race.

The Doctor didn't kill his own people. He time locked the time war, thus condeming them to be stuck there for all of eternity. He did it again in The End of Time.

No writer wouldn't let him kill off his own people, that would be too dark for someone like The Dcotor. RTD wanted the time lords out of the way, so he time locked them.

As the Time War was fought all over time, it's still happening even now. Its just no Dalek or Time Lord can escape as it's locked. Well, apart from Davros and Dalek Caan, but thats enough plotholes for one day.

how did he come about locking the time war? i have never fully understood it to be honest!

Not really a plot hole, in fact how is it a plot hole? Caan escaped before being timelocked, he later time shifted back into the time war prior to it being locked and saved Davros. Therefore he was in yet out of the time lock and able to do that. However it did cause huge damage to him.
The time lock itself has proven it can be breached, the smallest of stone can escape from it. The timelords aren't dead, The Doctor knows this they are simply imprisoned and bound to escape again. We know he only did this to save creation rather than end the war. Plus the fact The Doctor can reopen it one assumes. Therefore no genocide has been committed. Doctor 10-2 however has committed this as has the tenth Doctor. It can be argued the 9th Doctor committed this by convincing at the time the last Dalek to kill himself.

They made it pretty clear that the Time Lords and the Daleks both died in the Doctor's final act of the War. It was the events of the Time War that were locked, supposedly ensuring that they could never be changed or even accessed, the entire history of both races apparently removed from history.

It's all very vague, deliberately so.

There's been no actual evidence of that last part, and a lot of evidence to the contrary since plenty of people still remember both Time Lords and Daleks. I think that whole idea was just fan speculation that's been accepted as fact, erroneously so.

Did the Doctor have to stand there howling while watching his entire race and homeworld burning?
*hopes the alert post function isn't fixed yet*

Is the Doc different from Slobodan Milosovic? (that is his real name, he was a Yugoslavian dictator not a Dr Who character)?

Well, having carefully examined biographies of both, I've come to the conclusion that the main difference is that the Doctor is not a Yugoslavian dictator, while Solobodan was not a renegade Time Lord. So yes.

Yet both have committed genocide?

The Doctor did destroy Gallifrey and kill his people. The time lock is a McGuffin that's supposed to prevent time travel into or out of those events.

/ That's why we see the Time Lords talking about a prophecy of Gallifrey's destruction the next day with only the Doctor and the Master walking away. It happened.

Well, I have eaten and enjoyed peas and I am reliably informed that the former Prime Minister John Major also likes peas, yet I am most definitely not the former Prime Minister John Major.

You have to look at this issue in context, the Doctor takes the actions he does to protect weaker races. He was protecting the Universe from the daleks/timelords, humanity from the Racknos (spelling?) and humanity from the vampire fish (they wouldn't have stayed in Venice lets face it). These races would all have committed genocide themselves against weaker races.

Doesn't the operation of evolution come into it at all? I mean, survival of the fittest and all? I can understand things like the Daleks, Pyroviles and the vampire fish being fair game because they all came to Earth because of events that affected time and therefore he needs to protect the original timeline of events, but what was the rationale behind the Racnoss? As far I can tell, it's just because they were 'evil'.

Weren't the Racnoss in the centre of the earth because they were on the run, they left their planet and spread out kiling anything in their path? I still think genocide to prevent wider multiple genocide.

In "The end of time" Rassilon is having his 'cabinet meeting' where it is mentioned that the Doctor possesses the Moment and he'll use it to destroy both the Time Lords and the Daleks. I'm guessing "the Moment" is an actual device/weapon rather than a figure of speech which he used to timelock both sides of the war.
Now RTD is gone I'm not sure we'll learn anymore...

by that reckoning should we judge all serial killers separately as they only have one small part of their character similar to one another?

People are also not judged on whteher they eat peas.

Committing genocide is a judgeable offence however.

Yes that is how I saw it as well the way you guys desctribe it...

Genocide is the wrong word. He has never commited genocide. Thats very very silly.

I think the people talking about genocide need to get their head round the meaning of the word, then we can have a sensible discussion.

Untill that point i'm giving this thread a wide berth.