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Android 2.2 Froyo. 450% faster than 2.1??
DejaVoodoo
12-05-2010
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05...ut-450-faster/

Oh jeez!!!
fastest finger
12-05-2010
I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......?

Could we get a pleasant surprise in June?
ohirome
13-05-2010
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......?

Could we get a pleasant surprise in June?”

Heres hoping. It could make me rethink jumping ship to the iPhone.
Mr Cable
13-05-2010
AND official tethering & WiFi Access Point-ability according to today's The Register...
RED_
13-05-2010
Going to have to wait a while for this to arrive on my Desire..
spaceman05
13-05-2010
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......?

Could we get a pleasant surprise in June?”

doubt it, but pigs could fly i suppose
okuda
13-05-2010
Hopefully HTC will push this out to the Desire fairly fast, as it's there flagship phone..Here's hoping...!!??!!
goomba
13-05-2010
Anybody thinking HTC will rush this out to the Desire is dreaming. Hero was their previous flagship phone and its still waiting for 2.1 since HTC said it was coming back in October.
pi r squared
13-05-2010
In fairness, 1.x to 2.x is a major upgrade which might explain HTC's delays in getting it out to the Hero. 2.x to 2.x should technically be a minor upgrade, so hopefully the Desire should get 2.2 fairly promptly.
croyde
14-05-2010
So how is the Desire upgraded?

Is it a simple matter of a program on your PC/Mac and just plugging in like iTunes?

My Nokia is a pain as it needs a program that only runs on Windows hence why I have kept an old laptop, beyond its last legs, on the go all these years.
spaceman05
14-05-2010
Originally Posted by croyde:
“So how is the Desire upgraded?

Is it a simple matter of a program on your PC/Mac and just plugging in like iTunes?

My Nokia is a pain as it needs a program that only runs on Windows hence why I have kept an old laptop, beyond its last legs, on the go all these years.”

well the apparant update the htc hero has been waing for 6 months for, will be over the air when it eventually arrives, so i would imagine the desire would be the same
GetFrodo
14-05-2010
Originally Posted by Mr Cable:
“AND official tethering & WiFi Access Point-ability according to today's The Register...”

I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled?
TheBigM
14-05-2010
Originally Posted by GetFrodo:
“I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled?”

It said so on Engadget too.
sotek
14-05-2010
Originally Posted by GetFrodo:
“I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled?”

The news is everywhere including what appear to be genuine shots of the interface settings. If this isn't fact I would be very very surprised.

Hopefully my Nexus will get the update next week.
Gormond
14-05-2010
2.1 must have been pretty poorly written if they can increase the speed 450%.
jshah1
14-05-2010
2.1 was not poorly written, the speed update is due to them implementing a new process called just in time compiling. this basically is suited to cirtain types of processing such as codecs and floating point calculations. this will mean that you wont see a speed increase like that on all aspects of the phone but things like videos will be quicker and also enabling the 720p stuff and divx etc.

(this is my understanding of it any ways, and probably may not be exactly what is going on)
goomba
14-05-2010
Originally Posted by pi r squared:
“In fairness, 1.x to 2.x is a major upgrade which might explain HTC's delays in getting it out to the Hero. 2.x to 2.x should technically be a minor upgrade, so hopefully the Desire should get 2.2 fairly promptly.”

The delays have little to do with technical reasons and more to do with marketing as far as I can see.

The update was talked about by HTC over 6 months ago. It has already been released on the Droid Eris which is the virtually the same hardware. It is also on Legend, which again is very close hardware wise.

HTC could have even given Hero 1.6 which would let users have Google Maps navigation - but no.
ogryn
16-05-2010
Originally Posted by jshah1:
“2.1 was not poorly written, the speed update is due to them implementing a new process called just in time compiling. this basically is suited to cirtain types of processing such as codecs and floating point calculations. this will mean that you wont see a speed increase like that on all aspects of the phone but things like videos will be quicker and also enabling the 720p stuff and divx etc.

(this is my understanding of it any ways, and probably may not be exactly what is going on)”

It is very similar to what Chrome and Firefox are doing for JavaScript. Both now use JIT compilers to covert interpreted code into compiled code, making their JS implementations a lot faster.

I would have thought any program that makes use of the Dalvik Java engine as opposed to Native Code will see a speed benefit here.

I think we're due to find out for sure next week and Google I/O.
DejaVoodoo
21-05-2010
From mobile-ent.biz
Quote:
“In a blizzard of Android-related announcements at Google's I/O conference, the company took the wrappers off the next update to the Android OS: Version 2.2 (codenamed Froyo).

The OS has a new Dalvik JIT compiler, which Google says will make the OS between two and five times faster. The Android browser has also been beefed up with a new V8 JavaScript engine for speed improvements.

New APIs include data backup, which will let Android users save the data from their apps when switching to a new handset.

There's also a new cloud to device messaging API, which will let people send apps and content to their handsets from their computer.

Another important improvement is the ability for developers to specify if their apps and games are installed on internal memory or SD cards. It will be welcomed by games developers in particular, who want to create big 3D titles that take up more space.”

Here is all of the new features
http://developer.android.com/sdk/and...ighlights.html
ACU
21-05-2010
The desire will (probably) get updated in the summer of this year, according to this article

Quote:
“Most phones launched this year will get an upgrade to Android 2.2,” a HTC spokesman told the website. “Updates will come in the second half of the year. As we get closer to readiness, we’ll reveal a full list, but for now have started with the most popular models like the HTC Desire (in the UK) and the Droid Incredible (in the US), as well as some hotly anticipated new phones.”

For big 3D HD games for the droid, have a look at this youtube clip, and see what Gameloft have brought out.
DejaVoodoo
21-05-2010
Great news on the Desire 2.2 update.
pi r squared
23-05-2010
Originally Posted by ACU:
“For big 3D HD games for the droid, have a look at this youtube clip, and see what Gameloft have brought out.”

Some of those look amazing! Can't wait to see what sort of games come out now that install to SD Card is an option.

Loads of info on the new things in Android 2.2 here. Some awesome improvements from a supposedly "minor" upgrade.
alanwarwic
23-05-2010
If you read other forums you will realise you can risk bricking your device and load it on to the Desire.

Seems that loads of people are already running it, flaws included.
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