Android 2.2 Froyo. 450% faster than 2.1??

DejaVoodoo · 12-05-2010, 17:22

http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05...ut-450-faster/

Oh jeez!!!

fastest finger · 12-05-2010, 23:41

I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......?

Could we get a pleasant surprise in June?

ohirome · 13-05-2010, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastest finger

I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......?

Could we get a pleasant surprise in June?

Heres hoping. It could make me rethink jumping ship to the iPhone.

Mr Cable · 13-05-2010, 11:09

AND official tethering & WiFi Access Point-ability according to today's The Register...

RED_ · 13-05-2010, 12:38

Going to have to wait a while for this to arrive on my Desire..

spaceman05 · 13-05-2010, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastest finger

I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......?

Could we get a pleasant surprise in June?

doubt it, but pigs could fly i suppose

okuda · 13-05-2010, 17:25

Hopefully HTC will push this out to the Desire fairly fast, as it's there flagship phone..Here's hoping...!!??!!

goomba · 13-05-2010, 17:57

Anybody thinking HTC will rush this out to the Desire is dreaming. Hero was their previous flagship phone and its still waiting for 2.1 since HTC said it was coming back in October.

pi r squared · 13-05-2010, 20:04

In fairness, 1.x to 2.x is a major upgrade which might explain HTC's delays in getting it out to the Hero. 2.x to 2.x should technically be a minor upgrade, so hopefully the Desire should get 2.2 fairly promptly.

croyde · 14-05-2010, 06:43

So how is the Desire upgraded?

Is it a simple matter of a program on your PC/Mac and just plugging in like iTunes?

My Nokia is a pain as it needs a program that only runs on Windows hence why I have kept an old laptop, beyond its last legs, on the go all these years.

spaceman05 · 14-05-2010, 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by croyde

So how is the Desire upgraded?

Is it a simple matter of a program on your PC/Mac and just plugging in like iTunes?

My Nokia is a pain as it needs a program that only runs on Windows hence why I have kept an old laptop, beyond its last legs, on the go all these years.

well the apparant update the htc hero has been waing for 6 months for, will be over the air when it eventually arrives, so i would imagine the desire would be the same

GetFrodo · 14-05-2010, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Cable

AND official tethering & WiFi Access Point-ability according to today's The Register...

I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled?

TheBigM · 14-05-2010, 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetFrodo

I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled?

It said so on Engadget too.

sotek · 14-05-2010, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetFrodo

I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled?

The news is everywhere including what appear to be genuine shots of the interface settings. If this isn't fact I would be very very surprised.

Hopefully my Nexus will get the update next week.

Gormond · 14-05-2010, 10:14

2.1 must have been pretty poorly written if they can increase the speed 450%.

jshah1 · 14-05-2010, 11:53

2.1 was not poorly written, the speed update is due to them implementing a new process called just in time compiling. this basically is suited to cirtain types of processing such as codecs and floating point calculations. this will mean that you wont see a speed increase like that on all aspects of the phone but things like videos will be quicker and also enabling the 720p stuff and divx etc.

(this is my understanding of it any ways, and probably may not be exactly what is going on)

goomba · 14-05-2010, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by pi r squared

In fairness, 1.x to 2.x is a major upgrade which might explain HTC's delays in getting it out to the Hero. 2.x to 2.x should technically be a minor upgrade, so hopefully the Desire should get 2.2 fairly promptly.

The delays have little to do with technical reasons and more to do with marketing as far as I can see.

The update was talked about by HTC over 6 months ago. It has already been released on the Droid Eris which is the virtually the same hardware. It is also on Legend, which again is very close hardware wise.

HTC could have even given Hero 1.6 which would let users have Google Maps navigation - but no.

ogryn · 16-05-2010, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshah1

2.1 was not poorly written, the speed update is due to them implementing a new process called just in time compiling. this basically is suited to cirtain types of processing such as codecs and floating point calculations. this will mean that you wont see a speed increase like that on all aspects of the phone but things like videos will be quicker and also enabling the 720p stuff and divx etc.

(this is my understanding of it any ways, and probably may not be exactly what is going on)

It is very similar to what Chrome and Firefox are doing for JavaScript. Both now use JIT compilers to covert interpreted code into compiled code, making their JS implementations a lot faster.

I would have thought any program that makes use of the Dalvik Java engine as opposed to Native Code will see a speed benefit here.

I think we're due to find out for sure next week and Google I/O.

DejaVoodoo · 21-05-2010, 14:59

From mobile-ent.biz

Quote:

In a blizzard of Android-related announcements at Google's I/O conference, the company took the wrappers off the next update to the Android OS: Version 2.2 (codenamed Froyo).

The OS has a new Dalvik JIT compiler, which Google says will make the OS between two and five times faster. The Android browser has also been beefed up with a new V8 JavaScript engine for speed improvements.

New APIs include data backup, which will let Android users save the data from their apps when switching to a new handset.

There's also a new cloud to device messaging API, which will let people send apps and content to their handsets from their computer.

Another important improvement is the ability for developers to specify if their apps and games are installed on internal memory or SD cards. It will be welcomed by games developers in particular, who want to create big 3D titles that take up more space.

Here is all of the new features
http://developer.android.com/sdk/and...ighlights.html

ACU · 21-05-2010, 15:30

The desire will (probably) get updated in the summer of this year, according to this article

Quote:

Most phones launched this year will get an upgrade to Android 2.2,” a HTC spokesman told the website. “Updates will come in the second half of the year. As we get closer to readiness, we’ll reveal a full list, but for now have started with the most popular models like the HTC Desire (in the UK) and the Droid Incredible (in the US), as well as some hotly anticipated new phones.

For big 3D HD games for the droid, have a look at this youtube clip, and see what Gameloft have brought out.

DejaVoodoo · 21-05-2010, 16:23

Great news on the Desire 2.2 update.

pi r squared · 23-05-2010, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACU

For big 3D HD games for the droid, have a look at this youtube clip, and see what Gameloft have brought out.

Some of those look amazing! Can't wait to see what sort of games come out now that install to SD Card is an option.

Loads of info on the new things in Android 2.2 here. Some awesome improvements from a supposedly "minor" upgrade.

alanwarwic · 23-05-2010, 13:35

If you read other forums you will realise you can risk bricking your device and load it on to the Desire.

Seems that loads of people are already running it, flaws included.

12-05-2010, 17:22	#1
DejaVoodoo Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 5,670	Android 2.2 Froyo. 450% faster than 2.1?? http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05...ut-450-faster/ Oh jeez!!!

12-05-2010, 23:41	#2
fastest finger Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Heart of England. Posts: 8,633	I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......? Could we get a pleasant surprise in June?

13-05-2010, 09:10	#3
ohirome Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,673	Quote: Originally Posted by fastest finger I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......? Could we get a pleasant surprise in June? Heres hoping. It could make me rethink jumping ship to the iPhone.

13-05-2010, 11:09	#4
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	AND official tethering & WiFi Access Point-ability according to today's The Register...

13-05-2010, 12:38	#5
RED_ Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 1,284	Going to have to wait a while for this to arrive on my Desire..

13-05-2010, 13:37	#6
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by fastest finger I wonder if the immenant arrival of 2.2 has anything to do with the constant delay of 2.1 for the HTC Hero......? Could we get a pleasant surprise in June? doubt it, but pigs could fly i suppose

13-05-2010, 17:25	#7
okuda Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 307	Hopefully HTC will push this out to the Desire fairly fast, as it's there flagship phone..Here's hoping...!!??!!

13-05-2010, 17:57	#8
goomba Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,444	Anybody thinking HTC will rush this out to the Desire is dreaming. Hero was their previous flagship phone and its still waiting for 2.1 since HTC said it was coming back in October.

13-05-2010, 20:04	#9
pi r squared Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,185	In fairness, 1.x to 2.x is a major upgrade which might explain HTC's delays in getting it out to the Hero. 2.x to 2.x should technically be a minor upgrade, so hopefully the Desire should get 2.2 fairly promptly.

14-05-2010, 06:43	#10
croyde Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 237	So how is the Desire upgraded? Is it a simple matter of a program on your PC/Mac and just plugging in like iTunes? My Nokia is a pain as it needs a program that only runs on Windows hence why I have kept an old laptop, beyond its last legs, on the go all these years.

14-05-2010, 08:17	#11
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by croyde So how is the Desire upgraded? Is it a simple matter of a program on your PC/Mac and just plugging in like iTunes? My Nokia is a pain as it needs a program that only runs on Windows hence why I have kept an old laptop, beyond its last legs, on the go all these years. well the apparant update the htc hero has been waing for 6 months for, will be over the air when it eventually arrives, so i would imagine the desire would be the same

14-05-2010, 08:45	#12
GetFrodo Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,745	Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Cable AND official tethering & WiFi Access Point-ability according to today's The Register... I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled?

14-05-2010, 08:57	#13
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Quote: Originally Posted by GetFrodo I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled? It said so on Engadget too.

14-05-2010, 09:57	#14
sotek Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,200	Quote: Originally Posted by GetFrodo I couldn't find that article - care to link or has it been pulled? The news is everywhere including what appear to be genuine shots of the interface settings. If this isn't fact I would be very very surprised. Hopefully my Nexus will get the update next week.

14-05-2010, 10:14	#15
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	2.1 must have been pretty poorly written if they can increase the speed 450%.

14-05-2010, 11:53	#16
jshah1 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Edgware, London Posts: 270	2.1 was not poorly written, the speed update is due to them implementing a new process called just in time compiling. this basically is suited to cirtain types of processing such as codecs and floating point calculations. this will mean that you wont see a speed increase like that on all aspects of the phone but things like videos will be quicker and also enabling the 720p stuff and divx etc. (this is my understanding of it any ways, and probably may not be exactly what is going on)

14-05-2010, 11:54	#17
goomba Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,444	Quote: Originally Posted by pi r squared In fairness, 1.x to 2.x is a major upgrade which might explain HTC's delays in getting it out to the Hero. 2.x to 2.x should technically be a minor upgrade, so hopefully the Desire should get 2.2 fairly promptly. The delays have little to do with technical reasons and more to do with marketing as far as I can see. The update was talked about by HTC over 6 months ago. It has already been released on the Droid Eris which is the virtually the same hardware. It is also on Legend, which again is very close hardware wise. HTC could have even given Hero 1.6 which would let users have Google Maps navigation - but no.

16-05-2010, 23:32	#18
ogryn Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Woking Posts: 3,600	Quote: Originally Posted by jshah1 2.1 was not poorly written, the speed update is due to them implementing a new process called just in time compiling. this basically is suited to cirtain types of processing such as codecs and floating point calculations. this will mean that you wont see a speed increase like that on all aspects of the phone but things like videos will be quicker and also enabling the 720p stuff and divx etc. (this is my understanding of it any ways, and probably may not be exactly what is going on) It is very similar to what Chrome and Firefox are doing for JavaScript. Both now use JIT compilers to covert interpreted code into compiled code, making their JS implementations a lot faster. I would have thought any program that makes use of the Dalvik Java engine as opposed to Native Code will see a speed benefit here. I think we're due to find out for sure next week and Google I/O.

21-05-2010, 14:59	#19
DejaVoodoo Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 5,670	From mobile-ent.biz Quote: In a blizzard of Android-related announcements at Google's I/O conference, the company took the wrappers off the next update to the Android OS: Version 2.2 (codenamed Froyo). The OS has a new Dalvik JIT compiler, which Google says will make the OS between two and five times faster. The Android browser has also been beefed up with a new V8 JavaScript engine for speed improvements. New APIs include data backup, which will let Android users save the data from their apps when switching to a new handset. There's also a new cloud to device messaging API, which will let people send apps and content to their handsets from their computer. Another important improvement is the ability for developers to specify if their apps and games are installed on internal memory or SD cards. It will be welcomed by games developers in particular, who want to create big 3D titles that take up more space. Here is all of the new features http://developer.android.com/sdk/and...ighlights.html

21-05-2010, 15:30	#20
ACU Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,916	The desire will (probably) get updated in the summer of this year, according to this article Quote: Most phones launched this year will get an upgrade to Android 2.2,” a HTC spokesman told the website. “Updates will come in the second half of the year. As we get closer to readiness, we’ll reveal a full list, but for now have started with the most popular models like the HTC Desire (in the UK) and the Droid Incredible (in the US), as well as some hotly anticipated new phones. For big 3D HD games for the droid, have a look at this youtube clip, and see what Gameloft have brought out.

21-05-2010, 16:23	#21
DejaVoodoo Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 5,670	Great news on the Desire 2.2 update.

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Android 2.2 Froyo. 450% faster than 2.1??

23-05-2010, 12:39	#22
pi r squared Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,185	Quote: Originally Posted by ACU For big 3D HD games for the droid, have a look at this youtube clip, and see what Gameloft have brought out. Some of those look amazing! Can't wait to see what sort of games come out now that install to SD Card is an option. Loads of info on the new things in Android 2.2 here. Some awesome improvements from a supposedly "minor" upgrade.

23-05-2010, 13:35	#23
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	If you read other forums you will realise you can risk bricking your device and load it on to the Desire. Seems that loads of people are already running it, flaws included.