I'm not sure if they are stuck in the Tardis for the whole first episode of Meglos, but I know that Meglos needs to impersonate the Doctor, so he traps the Doctor and Romana in a time-loop in the Tardis. It is rather funny.

Sorry, felt the need to reply to this because I saw part of my username here.

Fairly good episode, spoilt by a trite conclusion (physic pollen). best bits are with Toby Jones. Interesting idea of dual personality may need exploring in another episode. A bit of a filler episode methinks.

Has anyone mentioned yet that the episode had certain similarities with Total Recall? It also reminded me a lot of Shaun of the Dead at times (kind of a very British zombie comedy).

I love both those films and I love this episode!


Dreams don’t have to follow rules. Anything could have happened.

If you want to rationalise it, you could say that their subconscious wanted to wake up in the TARDIS, but thye were trapped, so a second dream world was created reflecting their desire to wake up in the TARDIS.


I got the impression that the whole thing was created from the Doctor’s subconscious. Didn’t he explain that the pollen only chose one person with the darkest subconscious, and since his was by far the darkest it chose him.


Actually, I’m the opposite. I love myself: it’s other people who often seem to disagree.

I think the Leadworth dream had quite a bit of Rory written across it; it is most likely his ideal world. Way too idyllic to be real and notably the Doc's nightmare scenario

Just highlighting that Rory and the Doctor are diametrally different in any way ... Still, the deadly dangers that the Doc's dark side came up with seemed relatively harmless. Psychologically speaking, I would have imagined him creating a dream with his most feared moral dilemma: bringing about destruction by trying to save someone or something.

This is a really good point. We now know that Matt Smith's The Doctor hates himself more than anyone else he knows and has a particularly low view of himself.

Lovely

Also, if you were the Doctor, would you drop Amy off at the nearest planet? I would: all that rude staring and constantly not being impressed by anything and just plain antagonism would make me get rid of her pronto.

I wouldn't care who had set her up to fall for me.

which ones (apart from the finale and regen ones) arent tho?

Any significance to 'SARN' ? Name of the 'Old peoples home', pretty weird name. Clutching at straws to be honest, just thought it was a little odd.

Sorry for the double post, but the purposeful choice not to rhyme aswell, I found that odd. Numerous times the Dreamlord could have perfectly rhymed, and he chose another word or phrase?

Because if there were more than two worlds, the theme of the story wouldn't have worked! Upper Leadworth was Rory's scenario, the TARDIS was the Doctor's, and Amy had to choose which one felt real to her.

Nothing more than a visual metaphor for Amy's emotional state.

Yeah, I noticed that. There is apparently a Sarn in Bridgend, Wales, perhaps that's where they were filming. There's occasional bits of text here in there that I find weird - like in Time of Angels, there's notices on the doors saying, "Trip Hazzard" - can the set designers not spell, or does it mean something?

No he doesn't. It was all explained. The pollen amplified his darkest thoughts. Most people could probably spend a few minutes thinking about their least desirable traits, situations where they made a difficult or wrong choice, fashion sense and the self image they project. People who have been involved in traumatic events have memories that aren't exactly brilliant. And generally people keep these in context and under control as part of being a balanced normal person. But if you were given some medicine that blotted out the healthy good thoughts and amplified the bad you might end up coming across as someone who hates themselves. Then if you got better you'd be normal again. He doesn't have to absolutely 100% love himself to death in all regards all the time and have a total absence of the possiblity of questioning himself just to not be a total self hater.

I recommend everyone watch Forbidden Planet for more stuff on this theme. Or just watch it because it's a great film.

The time war has given him some angst that wasn't very much there in pre RTD Dr Who (fifth doctor a bit moody, of course), which is all part of bringing the character into line with modern TV style and audience expectations. That doesn't mean we have to dwell too much on it like it's some American teen soap. For this story it was just a cool monster-of-the-week.



No, I love it. She's so funny. I see just as much of her being lively, interested, impressed, loving it and enthusiastic. In this episode she said it directly to Rory's face ("who would give up all this?" or somesuch, when in the face of death), and still you say she's not impressed by anything? And what antagonism? How about when she volunteered to infiltrate the vampire lair? Or workshopped the spitfire plan. I think you're selectively concentrating on only certain lines and not others. If she bites back every now and then it's understandable that someone with a strong character in weird situations would want to assert themselves every now and then. Otherwise she might come across as some kind of totally wonderful super hero angel and be a bit boring. People don't have to be 100% one thing or the other.