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I am so pleased that Junior Apprentice held up as well as it did. Definitely deserves it.
It didn't crash and burn at all like it could have done. That rating was actually higher than a few episodes early on when it didn't have BGT to contend with. Waterloo Road was predictably hit hard though. I knew this was coming because there must be a broad similarity in the audience. As for BGT, well what can you say really. It did well for the performance show, but the results show did rather disappointingly, even taking into account the lead-in. I guess 1.5m people did not care enough about any of the acts to come back at 9:30pm. Harry Hill did slightly better than I was expecting. The figure I had in my head was 5.8m so 6.1m is actually not too bad. |
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Does anyone know why we get ITV1 HD simulcast figures, yet not for C4 HD/E4 HD?
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I think the people that turned to BBC One at 9pm never turned back, that's what appeared to have happened. I won't be surprised if Apprentice had 5m+ for the first half hour, with about 3.5m/4m for the second half hour.
![]() We just recorded BGT result and watched in about 10-15 minutes at 10pm. Simples! Pixie Lott was a weak interval act compared to Tuesday. |
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Does anyone know why we get ITV1 HD simulcast figures, yet not for C4 HD/E4 HD?
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Does anyone know why we get ITV1 HD simulcast figures, yet not for C4 HD/E4 HD?
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Don't know. Reply to one of Jason Deans' ratings articles on MediaGuardian and he will probably answer.
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ITV1 HD and ITV1 are reported separately, whereas Channel 4 probably prefer to 'bundle' them in together even though they are technically two different channels. Same with Sky.
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ITV1 should go with this on Saturday...
1915 Britain's Got Talent - The Final 2130 Coronation Street 2200 Britain's Got Talent - Winner Announced 2215 Movie: Batman Begins (2005/Repeat) |
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I had not realised the launch was against Junior Apprentice, gosh that will be a hard one to call, Very similar demos. Is BB launch still a big deal? I gave up watching a few years ago, I would imagine it still gets 5-6m no?
JA did very well, so could be a slight problem for the launch next week. BGT results are quite low. Shame Waterloo Road is low though but expected really
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It is still a big deal, just in January for the Celebrity series got 6.7m. Now with all the billboards and interest of the last series we could be looking at 7m+.
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Thanks for BB ratings, I don't tune into it these days so wasn't sure how big it was, I know the ratings overall are down alot, but I suppose the first night buzz still draws a crowd.
![]() The CBB7 launch got the highest rating since about 4 years before so its quite shocking where the ratings came from. I just wish that the BB3 final viewers come back for the final, wherer 10.1m watched. |
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ITV1 should go with this on Saturday...
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The BBC & ITV 10pm news ratings are extremely telling. During last years BGT the ITV NaT ratings were very high and so was the quality, but now they've reverted to tabloid scare tactics, the ratings are crap considering. 4.7m with an 8.5m lead in and still being beaten by the BBC is shocking.
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The BBC & ITV 10pm news ratings are extremely telling. During last years BGT the ITV NaT ratings were very high and so was the quality, but now they've reverted to tabloid scare tactics, the ratings are crap considering. 4.7m with an 8.5m lead in and still being beaten by the BBC is shocking.
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The BBC & ITV 10pm news ratings are extremely telling. During last years BGT the ITV NaT ratings were very high and so was the quality, but now they've reverted to tabloid scare tactics, the ratings are crap considering. 4.7m with an 8.5m lead in and still being beaten by the BBC is shocking.
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New drama starring John Nettles in development for ITV1: Quote:
The departing star of Midsomer Murders, John Nettles, is being lined up for a new drama series in development for ITV1.
Nettles, 66, is about to film his farewell episode as Detective Chief Inspector Tom Barnaby, having decided to retire from the role after 13 years. But the producer of Midsomer Murders, Brian True-May, is developing a new project for his leading man with the working title Country Matters. "I've got one of our top Midsomer writers, Michael Aitkens, working on it, in collaboration with ITV who are very keen," said True-May. "We're hoping to start something next spring. John will probably be a justice of the peace and he won't be Mr Ordinary living in an ordinary house. He'll probably be much more middle class, living in a country mansion in a farm area." More here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...dsomer-murders |
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Share up quite a bit for BGT though the audience was down a bit. Tonights show looks to be the weakest so far (I've actually found the first 3 far better than last years). No surprise that the results were down given HH. Again, that probably wouldn't have been so bad had they been able to divert 1-2m over to ITV2 for 30 minutes but I think ITV would rather they went and had a look at the competition at 9pm!
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Problem is that the first 15 minutes clash with Doctor Who.
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I had not realised the launch was against Junior Apprentice, gosh that will be a hard one to call, Very similar demos. Is BB launch still a big deal? I gave up watching a few years ago, I would imagine it still gets 5-6m no?
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and the last 15 minutes break the law if children under 14 are involved. and before anyone asks, no you cant get waivers for laws which you dont like.
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ITV1 should go with this on Saturday...
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I disagree. I think it's quite a bad rating for the results show, even taking into account that Harry Hill's TV Burp was on before it not Corrie.
First of all, when has BGT had to rely on lead-ins to get good ratings? In the last couple of years, it's always brought in the audiences regardless of what's on before it. Also, Harry Hill's TV Burp got about the same rating as Emmerdale which led into the first BGT show and that did well (a great share especially). Junior Apprentice was harder competition than the other 9pm shows so far this week, but BGT's faced EE twice and averaged 9m+ up against it. I would say JA is definitely easier competition than EE. Even Eurovision's more popular than JA, but BGT still managed almost 10m against that. I just think the seperate results show don't work for the semi finals. The first 15 minutes are complete filler: going over the phone numbers once again and seeing a guest artist performance. And I can understand why not as many people want to stay around for the actual results because it's not like The X Factor where we really know the contestants due to weeks of performances and there's a greater connection between the audience and performers. Also because there's so little content in the show, the judges decision keeps being made around 21:52, meaning people probably switch off after that and lower the average for the final 5-10mins. Last night's rating was the lowest for BGT in over two years. Even most of the semis in the first series, which on the whole was way less popular, got better ratings. It is disappointing IMO. Ironically, the final should have a separate results show not the semis! As for tonight, I can see the BGT performances getting about the same as last night, but the results up considerably as Corrie's back and it faces a repeat of Would I Lie To You, which will be crushed. Thinking about the scheduling, as I said earlier in the post, I've changed my mind and I do think ITV has messed up BGT week this year. For next year, a better schedule would be: Monday 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 Coronation Street 20:30 Britain's Got Talent 22:30 ITV News EastEnders could either clash or move. Tuesday 19:00 Emmerdale 20:00 Britain's Got Talent 22:00 New Drama 23:00 ITV News Drama would move to Monday at 9pm the following week. Wednesday 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 Coronation Street 20:00 Britain's Got Talent 22:00 New Drama 23:00 ITV News Drama would shift to 21:00 the following week. Thursday 19:00 Emmerdale 20:00 Britain's Got Talent 22:00 New Comedy 22:30 ITV News Comedy would shift to 21:00 the following week. Friday 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 Coronation Street 20:30 Britain's Got Talent 22:30 ITV News Saturday 19:00 Britain's Got Talent 21:00 New Comedy 21:30 Britain's Got Talent 22:00 New entertainment show Comedy would shift to Thursday at 21:30, entertainment show earlier on Saturday, possibly still post-watershed. Quote:
Share up quite a bit for BGT though the audience was down a bit. Tonights show looks to be the weakest so far (I've actually found the first 3 far better than last years). No surprise that the results were down given HH. Again, that probably wouldn't have been so bad had they been able to divert 1-2m over to ITV2 for 30 minutes but I think ITV would rather they went and had a look at the competition at 9pm!
Also, I agree with what you've said about this year's semis being better. Some have said that the talent is lacking, and whilst there aren't as many outstanding acts as there was last year, there are far more 'good' acts, as last year each semi had 2-3 really good acts (not even that sometimes) and the rest were crap, whereas this year the standard overall is much higher, despite there not being as many outstanding acts, but it's making for better shows overall. As for tonight being weak, I agree, but Friday is strong and they seem to have gone with: Monday: Strong Tuesday: Weak Wednesday: Strong Thursday: Weak Friday: Strong Which is what they did in the second series too iirc. They couldn't last year as there weren't enough good acts, so every show was weak overall. Quote:
and the last 15 minutes break the law if children under 14 are involved. and before anyone asks, no you cant get waivers for laws which you dont like.
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I agree, a lot of people were right when this schedule was announced. I thought it would work out but it hasn't paid off at all and BGT has suffered enormously as a result.
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Something interesting on Broadcast, Channel 4 kick off search for The 11 O'Clock Show... why? Quote:
Channel 4 is planning a stripped successor to The 11 O’Clock Show to launch new talent, and has put a six-month production contract out to tender. Bizarre.Princess Productions, Objective Productions, Graham Norton’s indie So Television and Paul O’Grady’s Olga TV have all pitched to produce the series, which will be trialled with an initial three-week run and extended to six months if successful. The move is the latest attempt by C4 to replicate the success of the cult 1990s hit, which got mixed reviews at the time but helped launch the careers of the likes of Ricky Gervais, Sacha Baron Cohen, Mackenzie Crook, Daisy Donovan and Iain Lee. Shine Group-owned Princess is tipped as the frontrunner, partly because it owns its own studio and is able to keep costs down - a formula that has proven successful in winning long-running contracts to produce C4 teen slot T4 and Five’s The Wright Stuff. It is thought the show will be 45 minutes long, amounting to close to 100 hours of business if it is taken to six months. C4 originally began developing the project as an ad-funded proposition - the first time it would have opened the 11pm slot to AFP - but has now cooled on that idea and decided to fund the show itself. C4 head of entertainment Justin Gorman is overseeing the project, which is likely to blend comedy with a traditional chatshow feel, and will be used to launch and nurture new talent. Gorman is expected to greenlight the three-week trial imminently, although C4 would not go into detail about the plans. “We are investigating 11pm and a new stripped show is an idea in development,” a spokeswoman said. C4 last experimented with the formula in 2008, when it also put out a tender. The resulting show was Tonightly, produced by Objective and designed “to promote a new generation of comics”. The stripped show was also trialled for a three-week run but was never extended. However, it did give Jason Manford, new co-host of The One Show, his big break. BGT peaked at 20:15 with 10.5m (45.7%) by the way. Presumably excluding HD. |
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I'd say that the BGT rating for the results show is very poor. Junior Apprentice may have started before it, but you'd think if the 10m viewers who watched the performances cared enough about the acts, they'd tune back in for the results show 30 minutes later and record or catch up with other shows at another time. A 1.5m drop isn't good and the share is pretty poor too. I would have expected at least a 40% share, similar to the performance show (which did rate fine).
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I agree, a lot of people were right when this schedule was announced. I thought it would work out but it hasn't paid off at all and BGT has suffered enormously as a result.
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