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We haven't got to 180 pages or beyond yet. Another few weeks... yet in this thread.

While we wait for some ratings....

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...ot-talent.html


The World Idol concept if I recall flopped, but that was shown on Christmas Day, wasn't it?

Yeah World Idol didn't go so well. The performances show on Christmas Day only got 4.55m as it aired against Eastenders (15.22m) and the last ever Only Fools on Horses (16.37m). The results show on New Year's day did better though with 6.78m despite airing against EastEnders which got 14.58m.

But aside from the scheduling, the main reason World Idol didn't perform well was because the whole show was a mess and was executed very badly. I'd imagine with Cowell in charge and far more experience with these shows this World's Got Talent will be far better, if it happens, and as the original article bills it as a 'Summer spectacular', it won't be on Christmas Day like World Idol was.

It should do OK in the Summer without much competition...

Just checked provisional schedules for week beginning 20th June, and it seems like Coronation Street loses a lot of episodes that week:

Emmerdale - 4 episodes
EastEnders - 4 episodes
Coronation Street - 2 episodes

The previous week for Corrie there's only 4 episodes, so we might find ourselves with another 8 episode week soon to catch back-up, unless ITV deliberately under commissioned episodes for these weeks.

Yeah, it'll probably do fine. I think it'll probably end up (if it does happen) airing on a Sunday night in July or somewhere like that, and it won't be on a Saturday as foreign broadcasters wouldn't want to do it.

As for Corrie, they seem to have had a few extra episodes dotted around the schedules for the last couple of months. They've had two extra Sunday episodes, the Wednesday one last week and were supposed to have an extra one this week, so that's four episodes they can drop during the World Cup, and it looks like three of them will be that week (I'm surprised they aren't having a double on the Thursday though).

Wasn't the Wednesday one to compensate for only one episode on the Monday due to an England friendly?

Although you're right about the rest - guess that's how they planned it along, although I guess its inevitable that all 3 soaps (probably Emmerdale not so much) will lose a bit of their audience during the World Cup as viewers try and 'find them' in the schedule.

Prison Break finished last year. The final episode was shown on Sky1 on May 24th, 2009 the same day as in the US.

Soap ratings out: Hollyoaks got its lowest ever rating...

13:45- Doctors: 1.18m (19.3%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.11m (10%)
18:00- Home & Away: 666k (4.8%)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 640k (4.3%)
19:00- Emmerdale: 5.67m (35.4%)
20:00- EastEnders: 4.34m (20.7%)
22:00- EastEnders (BBC3): 1.32m (6.6%)

More here: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/ne...gs-640000.html

Low rating for EastEnders as well - I think its second lowest rating ever, but share-wise it was up from Monday's episode. Emmerdale did well share-wise.

I'm not going to blame Hollyoaks fully - I'm going to blame The 5 O'Clock Show which surely is going to get thrown off air.

Emmerdale did well, including HD will take its share to 36%+.

I was at first going to say ouch at EastEnders, but its share is actually higher than Monday's, so it did alright all considering.

Not sure what that means for BGT although I suspect it'll be under 10m, but near 50% share.

Poor all round

If The 5 O'Clock Shows ratings are like that with Peter Andre who is a fairly big name, imagine what they're going to be like by the time they get round to the likes of Phil & Kirsty?

I wouldn't bleame the 5 O Clock Show. Hollyoaks follows The Simpsons

Hollyoaks Thursday breakdown

708,000
Adults 16-34 318,000
All Adults 591,500
Housewives with Children 120,700
Individuals 708,100
Men 16-34 95,000
Women 16-34 223,000

Last years official rating for June 4th was 1.66

I didn't realise Hollyoaks was down so much

And those 16-34 figures accounting for almost 50% don't really mean much now...


Bit of a nightmare situation for CH4 this week. And the bad thing is the early primetime situation probably won't improve much next week.

I actually thought the 5pm show would be a success even though it was basically the POG show without POG, so can't blame CH4 for thinking this would be a hit. It just doesn't seem to have been received well. Obviously being live(?) it can easily be pulled, but replaced with waht? MORE CDWM repeats?? Apart from Coach Trip, Ch4 are suddenly left without anything in the 5pm hour.

I would hope Cowell made the World's Got Talent a showcase for various winners, rather than a competition as World Idol was. As he said, what is the point in making 11 winners losers?


Also if it's a showcase they can be much more flexible in who they put on, and have more than one act from each country - and feature runners-up too. NBC would surely want Susan Boyle to be involved.

They could move Countdown and Deal or No Deal forward an hour.

The Five O'Clock Show needs to be pulled now, it is a massive turkey. The best thing they can do is move Cook Yourself Thin to 5pm and stick on half hour Come Dine With Me repeats at 5.30pm, as that seems to be all they've got.

Have they got any more episodes of Wogan's Perfect Recall in the can as that seems to do reasonably well?

Neighbours is doing well.

Both are aimed at older people who are more routined, so moving them could be more hassle than its worth.

What C4 need for the 5pm hour is a chatshow, Coach Trip/CDWM pairing and a new gameshow running each one for 6-8 weeks at a time before alternating. They do seem to be a bit stuck at the minute and have commissioned some crap ideas, only for them to fall back on CDWM when it fails.

They just need solid ideas to bed in and become well received. BBC, ITV and Channel 4 daytime are otherwise on a loop apart from the summer and it does them no harm, so the 5pm slot should be no different. They could even use a safe option and commission something like a Des & Mel chatshow.

If they end up pulling The 5 O'Clock Show, giving BBLB a Channel 4 outing wouldn't be a bad idea, and just pair it up with an extra episode of The Simpsons.

They've already tried BBLB on C4 during the afternoon and it flopped miserably. That was back when it was watchable as well.

Hollyoaks has had an utterly awful year and there are still some hideous storylines to be concluded and characters no one cares about.

That said, things are now gradually improving on screen but it will need a big promotional push tied in with the major storylines planned for Autumn to get out of this mess.

It didn't. On Channel 4 it used to get what the highlights shows got last year! Then it used to get about 1-2m viewers the following year before it was moved back to E4.

This year they've got a new presenter and they've changed the format, so it could get them around 1m depending on how popular this years series is.

Another idea, but a bigger risk, could be to move The 5 O'Clock Show to 6pm (and change the name accordingly) and move The Simpsons & Hollyoaks to the 5pm hour, giving the E4 showing of Hollyoaks more emphasis and playing it on E4 on the correct days.

That's the thing... I'm sure every network in the world would want Susan Boyle to be involved. But would Cowell be willing to let her lose? And unlike the original World Idol, he doesn't have anyone from the shows that he would want to plug on a global stage (as 19 Ent hoped to do with Kelly & Will on World Idol).

They've already done a World's Got Talent documentary for ITV1 and used the same title for an Oprah Winfrey special last year with Simon Cowell.

It's one of those things that has been talked about for years but I doubt it will happen.
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Those soap ratings don't look good for BGT later on. Perhaps the same as Thursday night with the 9.30pm show, benefitting from being on later, will be higher.

Does anyone have any predictions for tonight's BGT rating? Obviously Friday's ratings are not in yet for BGT, but I don't envisage any major drop or increase.

I think that the average will probably be between 12m and 14m, but with a peak of about 16m. I don't think that's too unrealistic to aim for.