The Ratings Thread (Part 9)

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jake lyle

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“I wasn't referring to Christine but the potential for transfer of other talent into the BBC.”

Ok sorry but still there is no space for them, as I said earlier the only vacant slot would be a filler show in the summer or in early saturday teatime.

Itv is axing drama and replacing it with entertainment, so its obvious that they'll need a lot of high profile presenters.

C14E

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by craig-maclellan:
“Surely she'll be re-negotiating her contract come September though and getting a better deal. It may not be £1.5m a year, but surely it's better for her career to be in prime time than tucked away on a breakfast programme.”

She'll probably get offered new primetime entertainment shows with this deal as well. And if she and Chiles can make the breakfast job work, she could have a long career there to a similar daily audience as she had on The One Show (though obviously not the same average audience).

More to the point, she's a female presenter who is already into her 30's (and allegedly lying about her age anyway). She might as well take the £6m while it's on the table. Even if she stays on The One Show for 5 years, I doubt the hype around her will be the same then as it is now. And really, who cares when you've got that much money?

sn_22

06-06-2010

Blimey - this Christine Bleakley discussion has taken off tonight! Can't really see why she'd want to move. GMTV and an ITV2 spin-off look like a step down from where she is. And I'm sure BBC One will be lining up new primetime projects for her too.

You've got to remember what attracted Chiles - it wasn't GMTV, it was the football. ITV offered him a chance to host the World Cup Final. Thats a dream job for someone like him and one he'd never get at the BBC. I don't see what ITV can offer Bleakley that the BBC can't - apart from loadsa money...

D.M.N.

06-06-2010

4 pages of discussion overnight - I was expecting 4 pages of BGT predictions, not 4 pages of Christine Bleakley moving to ITV!

Maybe:

17:00 - The Chase
18:00 - ITV Regional News
18:10 - ITV News
18:30 - The One Show*
19:30 - Emmerdale
20:00 - Coronation Street
20:30 - etc.

* not sure if BBC own the rights to the name or not. Needs to be an hour long because of commercials, can't realistically see it being half an hour on ITV

And what what does this mean for BBC's One Show? Axe it, and you've all of a sudden got to fill about 7,200 hours of TV with other material per year!

nthorn

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“4 pages of discussion overnight - I was expecting 4 pages of BGT predictions, not 4 pages of Christine Bleakley moving to ITV!

Maybe:

17:00 - The Chase
18:00 - ITV Regional News
18:10 - ITV News
18:30 - The One Show*
19:30 - Emmerdale
20:00 - Coronation Street
20:30 - etc.

* not sure if BBC own the rights to the name or not. Needs to be an hour long because of commercials, can't realistically see it being half an hour on ITV

And what what does this mean for BBC's One Show? Axe it, and you've all of a sudden got to fill about 7,200 hours of TV with other material per year!”

I always thought that the one show was a play on the fact that it's on BBC1?

The three show though doesn't have the same ring to it.

garyessex

06-06-2010

"Record ratings for BGT" according to Sky News.

Though this is the channel that also claimed 20 million for the leaders debates.

D.M.N.

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by garyessex:
“"Record ratings for BGT" according to Sky News.

Though this is the channel that also claimed 20 million for the leaders debates.”

Ha, ratings are not released until 9:30am, they can play that trick all they like.

The chances of record ratings are close to zero... now that I've said it though.

iaindb

06-06-2010

The Scottish Sunday Mail doesn't appear to be as optimistic as ITN were last night* about the ratings for the BGT final.

Quote:
“More than 10 million viewers tuned in to watch Janey Cutler sing for Scotland on the Britain's Got Talent final last night.”

Pretty safe bet. It's like predicting that Manchester United will finish in the top half of the Premier League next season.

(*ITN were talking about 17m and 19m tuning in.)

garyessex

06-06-2010

Sky mentioned 19 million. I don't see it myself. the weather done here did take a turn around teatime though not sure if the rest of the country went wet. I'd imagine probably 12> at the most

D.M.N.

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Sky mentioned 19 million. I don't see it myself. the weather done here did take a turn around teatime though not sure if the rest of the country went wet. I'd imagine probably 12> at the most”

Well don't forget 19m was on one of the hottest days of the year with sun throughout the evening.

All will be revealed, whichever way, shortly...

Score

06-06-2010

I wouldn't go on anything ITN have said, as not only are they just wildly speculating, but also they were claiming that The X Factor Final in 2006 had got 20 million viewers...half an hour after it had gone off air. They actually gave it is own article on the website (it actually came in at 10.4m peaking at 12.6m for the results).

About 12.5m with a peak of 15m or so is what I'm thinking at the moment.

rzt

06-06-2010

Saturday 5th June Overnights
BBC One [inc. HD]
06:00- Breakfast: 1.1m (29.1%)
10:00- Saturday Kitchen Live: 1.5m (24.0%)
12:00- BBC News: 1.1m (18.6%)
13:15- Derby Day: 1.0m (13.9%)
16:30- BBC News: 1.6m (17.7%)
16:45- Hole in the Wall: 1.4m (14.8%)
17:15- Shrek 2: 2.5m (20.4%)

18:40- Doctor Who: 5.0m (29.4%)
* excluding HD: 4.7m (29%)
19:30- The National Lottery: In It To Win It 2012: 2.9m (14.2%)
20:20- Casualty: 3.1m (13.3%)
21:10- Victoria Wood's Short Term Memories: 2.1m ( 9.0%)
22:00- Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow: 3.3m (16.9%)
22:45- BBC News: 3.1m (18.9%)
23:05- Legally Blonde: 1.6m (15.0%)

BBC Two
17:55- Dad's Army: 1.3m ( 9.6%)
18:25- Timewatch: 1.3m ( 8.1%)
19:25- Little Ships: 0.8m (4%)
20:25- Dunkirk: The Soldiers' Story: 0.9m (4%)
21:15- Have I Got a Bit More News For You: 1.5m ( 6.2%)
22:00- I'm in a Rock 'n' Roll Band!: 1.0m (5%)

ITV1 [inc. HD]
17:45- ITV News & Weather: 2.0m (17.1%)
18:00- You've Been Framed!: 2.2m (16.2%)
18:30- The Whole 19 Yards: 3.7m (22.3%)
19:30- Britain's Got Talent: The Final: 12.3m (54.6%)
* excluding HD: 11.8m (52.0%)
* 15-minute peak [exc. HD]: 13.1m (53.9%)
* 2010 overnight series average: 10.0m (43%)
* 2009 overnight series average: 12.4m (52%)
* 2008 overnight series average: 9.6m (42%)
22:00- Batman Begins: 3.5m (20.5%)
23:30- ITV News & Weather: 2.2m (20.0%)
23:45- Batman Begins: 1.8m (21.7%)

Channel 4
16:55- Come Dine with Me: 1.1m
17:25- Come Dine with Me: 1.3m
17:55- Come Dine with Me: 1.4m
18:30- Channel 4 News: 1.0m
19:00- The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King: 1.4m

Five
19:15- Cricket on Five: 0.6m
20:00- NCIS: 0.65m
21:00- CSI: Miami: 0.8m
22:00- CSI: NY: 1.5m ( 8.0%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 40.3%
BBC1: 15.3%

15-minute Breakdown

Quote:
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Code:

Time ………. BBC1 …………………………… ITV ……………………………… BBC2 …………………… CH4 …………………… CH5 17:00 ….. 1.3 (14.4%) ….. 1.0 (10.4%) ….. 0.6 ( 6.2%) ….. 1.0 (10.7%) ….. 0.6 17:15 ….. 1.6 (15.7%) ….. 1.0 ( 9.5%) ….. 0.7 ( 6.7%) ….. 1.1 (10.8%) ….. 0.6 17:30 ….. 2.0 (17.6%) ….. 1.7 (14.9%) ….. 0.7 ( 6.2%) ….. 1.2 (10.4%) ….. 0.6 17:45 ….. 2.2 (18.4%) ….. 2.0 (17.0%) ….. 0.9 ( 7.3%) ….. 1.2 ( 9.8%) ….. 0.7 18:00 ….. 2.7 (21.1%) ….. 2.0 (15.6%) ….. 1.2 ( 9.6%) ….. 1.3 (10.1%) ….. 0.7 18:15 ….. 3.2 (22.9%) ….. 2.2 (15.9%) ….. 1.3 ( 9.5%) ….. 1.2 ( 9.0%) ….. 0.7 18:30 ….. 4.0 (26.7%) ….. 2.4 (16.1%) ….. 1.1 ( 7.5%) ….. 1.0 ( 6.8%) ….. 0.8 18:45 ….. 4.7 (28.2%) ….. 3.1 (18.4%) ….. 1.3 ( 7.9%) ….. 0.9 ( 5.6%) ….. 0.8 19:00 ….. 4.8 (28.5%) ….. 3.7 (21.8%) ….. 1.5 ( 8.8%) ….. 0.8 ( 4.8%) ….. 0.6 19:15 ….. 4.7 (26.6%) ….. 4.9 (27.4%) ….. 1.3 ( 7.1%) ….. 1.0 ( 5.4%) ….. 0.5 19:30 ….. 2.6 (13.2%) ….. 9.6 (48.6%) ….. 0.8 ( 4.1%) ….. 1.0 ( 4.9%) ….. 0.6 19:45 ….. 2.9 (14.0%) ….. 10.4 (50.2%) ….. 0.8 ( 3.9%) ….. 1.0 ( 4.8%) ….. 0.8 20:00 ….. 3.2 (15.0%) ….. 11.4 (52.5%) ….. 0.8 ( 3.9%) ….. 1.0 ( 4.7%) ….. 0.6 20:15 ….. 3.0 (13.2%) ….. 12.2 (54.6%) ….. 0.9 ( 4.0%) ….. 1.0 ( 4.5%) ….. 0.6 20:30 ….. 3.1 (13.5%) ….. 12.2 (53.3%) ….. 0.8 ( 3.5%) ….. 1.2 ( 5.5%) ….. 0.7 20:45 ….. 3.2 (13.7%) ….. 12.6 (53.4%) ….. 0.8 ( 3.6%) ….. 1.2 ( 4.9%) ….. 0.7 21:00 ….. 2.9 (12.3%) ….. 12.7 (53.3%) ….. 1.1 ( 4.4%) ….. 1.3 ( 5.5%) ….. 0.7 21:15 ….. 2.1 ( 8.8%) ….. 11.7 (50.4%) ….. 1.3 ( 5.5%) ….. 1.5 ( 6.6%) ….. 0.8 21:30 ….. 2.1 ( 9.1%) ….. 11.8 (50.1%) ….. 1.6 ( 6.9%) ….. 1.5 ( 6.5%) ….. 0.8 21:45 ….. 2.1 ( 8.8%) ….. 13.1 (53.9%) ….. 1.5 ( 6.3%) ….. 1.3 ( 5.2%) ….. 0.8 22:00 ….. 3.1 (15.1%) ….. 4.4 (21.7%) ….. 1.0 ( 5.1%) ….. 1.7 ( 8.3%) ….. 1.7 22:15 ….. 3.1 (16.1%) ….. 3.4 (17.4%) ….. 1.0 ( 5.1%) ….. 1.5 ( 7.8%) ….. 1.5 22:30 ….. 3.3 (18.4%) ….. 3.2 (17.8%) ….. 0.9 ( 5.2%) ….. 0.6 ( 3.6%) ….. 1.6 22:45 ….. 3.1 (18.2%) ….. 3.1 (18.5%) ….. 0.9 ( 5.5%) ….. 0.6 ( 3.4%) ….. 1.3 23:00 ….. 2.3 (15.6%) ….. 2.9 (19.8%) ….. 1.0 ( 6.7%) ….. 0.7 ( 4.5%) ….. 0.8

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D.M.N.

06-06-2010

OK for Doctor Who, its evidently clear that more people are not watching it live anymore. Britain's Got Talent did alright share wise, thought it's audience would have been a little higher myself though.

Unsurprisingly BBC One while BGT was on was down to low levels.

satman5000

06-06-2010

Thanks for the ratings rzt

Will be interesting to see what the 5 minute peak for BGT was

Score

06-06-2010

Not bad at all for the BGT final, it was a hot day where I am, and I suspect it fell a bit at 21:15 when the filler started for half an hour, but that's still a strong showing, and an excellent share, that's actually higher than The X Factor Final's share back in December, although that did have tougher competition.

Just ouch for BBC1 all over. Doctor Who seems to have taken a noticeable dip lately, and the rest of the night was a bit of a car crash, and I did think that Casualty would have held up better. Batman Begins did pretty well at 10pm, although it did have a massive lead in and The Whole 19 Yards held up a lot better than it did a couple of weeks ago in the earlier slot.

EDIT: Thanks rzt. I was right about BGT dipping at 21:15, and I presume that breakdown doesn't include HD.

dubsj

06-06-2010

Sky News now running 19m on their ticker tape at the bottom of the screen

Score

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Sky News now running 19m on their ticker tape at the bottom of the screen ”

They've probably scraped a one minute peak that's projected to include the predicted timeshift or something.

fmradiotuner1

06-06-2010

Wonder if the person running BBC1 will be sacked?
BBC 1 been so poor the last few weeks.

Have not watched anything other than news on BBC 1 really.

nthorn

06-06-2010

Not bad for BGT, lower than last year, but that was predictable. Well done BGT though.

Anyone know about BGMT's ratings?

Originally Posted by fmradiotuner1:
“Wonder if the person running BBC1 will be sacked?
BBC 1 been so poor the last few weeks.

Have not watched anything other than news on BBC 1 really.”

You can't really expect BBC to get any better ratings on BGT night...

rzt

06-06-2010

Well, BGT rated as expected - in line with the year-on-year declines the other live shows experienced. If you think about it, a 55% share across 2.5 hours is still brilliant, but we've been spoilt by last year's mega ratings! It's just a shame that the scheduling prevented the live shows from getting their potential. It was all going well during the auditions stage, down 8% against the ratings last year which was very respectable. But the live shows fell 25% and even averaged lower than the shows two years ago. I think ITV will revert back to the old scheduling format next year, with one show for the semis at around 2 hours in length.

This series didn't have much media coverage due to the papers focussing on the election, hung parliament, World Cup, etc. I think Cowell will have to make sure next year BGT gets more publicity - the show thrives on it. X Factor has a good chance of beating BGT in the averages this year; I can't see ITV ballsing up the scheduling for that and it'll have more media coverage.

Doctor Who has definitely lost something recently. It's easy to say that it'll timeshift a lot (which it will) but the episodes earlier in the series were getting shares of 33-35%. Last night's 29% share is disappointing, and it wasn't exactly up against top competition. I think, unfortunately, next week it will fall below 5m because I'd imagine the pre-match World Cup buildup on ITV1 will rate better than how TW19Y did yesterday. I don't think the rest of BBC1's evening lineup could've done much better given the circumstances.

Brekkie

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Here is the article in question,claiming the BBC offered her a leading role at the Olympics.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...TV-for-6m.html”

Well thank god she's going then. She's not even a good presenter, never mind a sports presenter - and BBC Sport have enough females on their roster already without bringing in a completely novice for the biggest event in their history.

I do think it's time Sue Barker stood aside, but only because Hazel Irvine especially, along with Clare Balding and Gabby Logan, are better presenters than her. If I had my way John Inverdale and Hazel Irvine would be the flagship hosts for 2012. If the BBC had theirs looks like it would be Christine Bleakly and probably Graham Norton!

Re: BGT - can't help but be somewhat disappointed with those figures - it was never going to match last year, but I thought it would get a couple million more. Interesting to get the breakdown though and see Twist and Pulse performed to three million viewers less than Spelbound and still came second.

Score

06-06-2010

14.14m (57.2%) 5 minute peak according to the DS article, so with HD that's probably 14.8-14.9m and about a 60% share.

rzt

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by nthorn:
“Anyone know about BGMT's ratings?”

More Talent had 1.54m (8.2%). It rated 35% lower than the equivalent episode last year.

Edit: DS really need to start reporting the HD figures, especially with the World Cup coming up - there'll be quite a lot of instances when shows get 0.5m+.

grahamzxy

06-06-2010

good share for bgt last night ..... we were out till 9 then watched the last hour (watching ant and dec fluff their autocue is always fun) it appears at its peak tv viewing audience for the night hit 25 million which is pretty high for june. Good rating for Batman Begins despite the news interruption - itv ought have shown news at ten then BB right after in its entirety. Now we can all look forward to a Cowell free world cup month

PJMillar

06-06-2010

Originally Posted by Score:
“14.14m (57.2%) 5 minute peak according to the DS article, so with HD that's probably 14.8-14.9m and about a 60% share.”

I've had a word with the editor, and we're going to include HD figures for now on...

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