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The Ratings Thread (Part 9)
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cherubmattd
19-05-2010
I think Glee might be up this week due to an appearance by Neil Patrick Harris (who seems to be loved by the Americans).
superstar111
19-05-2010
Does anyone know how The Scheme performed on BBC1 Scotland.
Dancc
19-05-2010
ITV1 Schedule w/c 31st May

Assuming MG is correct and the main BGT show runs for 90 minutes each night, then:

Monday:
1900 Coronation Street
1930 Britain's Got Talent
2100 Coronation Street
2130 Britain's Got Talent Result
2200 News at Ten

Tuesday-Friday:
1900 Emmerdale
1930 Britain's Got Talent
2100 Coronation Street
2130 Britain's Got Talent Result
2200 News at Ten

(2 episodes of Emmerdale displaced?)

EastEnders will have one of its lowest rated weeks of all-time I'd imagine.
Agent F
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“*Confirmed* Corrie is key ingredient of BGT sandwich:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...ins-got-talent”

Exciting. We'll see if it pays off. No doubt they'll dominate the entire week but will BGT be knocked severely?
Charnham
19-05-2010
not sure about Corrie at 9pm, the soaps really have not had post watershed outings before.
dubsj
19-05-2010
Correct Talent is 1930-2100 every weeknight and 2130-2200 which means Eastenders will get hit...
Dancc
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“not sure about Corrie at 9pm, the soaps really have not had post watershed outings before.”

It's happened on occasion. But sustained across 5 consecutive nights it hasn't.
Agent F
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“not sure about Corrie at 9pm, the soaps really have not had post watershed outings before.”

Well Corrie's had 10pm outings before which have performed very well, but it's been a few years since that happened and its audience has decreased since then.

Emmerdale was stripped at 10pm throughout the entire world cup in 2006 as well so it's not unprecedented.
Charnham
19-05-2010
I dont recall any of the examples above, but im not a Corrie of Emmerdale fan, so maybe that is why.
Agent F
19-05-2010
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-gameshow.html

The Sun says Push The Button is coming back.
C14E
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by dubsj:
“Correct Talent is 1930-2100 every weeknight and 2130-2200 which means Eastenders will get hit...”

It gets worse! 2 hours of BGT a night, spread out over 2 1/2 hours and over 6 nights?! Not often that I say Robbie is right, but ITV seem determined to kill off their biggest show by dragging it out.

My early prediction is that the main shows will be down quite a bit (say 20%) and the results shows will be around 20% lower than the main shows. And Corrie will see no long term boost nor will its increase cover the declines in BGT.
Brekkie
19-05-2010
Interesting - it'll definately hit ratings but refreshing to see a channel not bowing down to the usual soap schedule and being unafraid to clash with the others main soap. The BBC's best strategy might be to put EE at 9pm against Corrie rather than leave at against BGT. I wonder if More Talent will have a show at 9pm then.


Personally I'd have definately kept BGT as a two-hour show airing 8-10pm (or 8.30-10.30pm Mon/Fri) - I think viewers like it when things wrap up in one show rather than having to come back for the result, which as others have said if often a foregone conclusion in the BGT semi-finals.
open_ended
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Well Corrie's had 10pm outings before which have performed very well, but it's been a few years since that happened and its audience has decreased since then.

Emmerdale was stripped at 10pm throughout the entire world cup in 2006 as well so it's not unprecedented.”

I remember the 10pm Corrie's used to rate well back in 2004 or 5 was it? They were down but still had decent ratings if I recall correctly.

But those 10pm Emmerdales performed woefully.
open_ended
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-gameshow.html

The Sun says Push The Button is coming back.”

This is a mistake. It performed worse than the dried out Takeaway. They would be better off bringing that back.
Dancc
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Interesting - it'll definately hit ratings but refreshing to see a channel not bowing down to the usual soap schedule and being unafraid to clash with the others main soap. The BBC's best strategy might be to put EE at 9pm against Corrie rather than leave at against BGT. I wonder if More Talent will have a show at 9pm then.”

I'm sorry, but how is this the best strategy, soap v soap? All evidence suggests the opposite with EastEnders struggling to even beat Emmerdale in the head-to-head clashes. Against BGT it is providing an alternative.
Dancc
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by open_ended:
“This is a mistake. It performed worse than the dried out Takeaway. They would be better off bringing that back.”

Spoiler
How long before someone mentions Pokerface? I give it 5 posts.
Steve Williams
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Well Corrie's had 10pm outings before which have performed very well, but it's been a few years since that happened and its audience has decreased since then.”

Of course there was that time in 1999 when they ran that Brighton-set spin-off every night at 10pm with the return of Bet, although they then showed the sixth and final episode at 7.30 on the Saturday which confused everyone. A bit like the year later when for the fortieth anniversary they showed it seven nights a week, but the Saturday episode was at 9.15 and my mum forgot it was on - unsurprising as it was on a completely different day at a completely different time than usual.

That week in November 1999 was part of a mental week on ITV when they showed Millionaire every night, that Corrie spin-off at 10pm in addition to the usual episodes and Emmerdale every night (back when it was still only thrice weekly), plus a load of one-off specials, for no reason other than to screw up BBC1. But even on that week they couldn't make Lucy Sullivan Is Getting Married a hit.
ZoeMcCallister
19-05-2010
Really strange scheduling for BGT. Not only will it get hit by the earlier start (good weather etc), but it will get hit by EE and the momentum it builds up by 9pm will be gone by 9.30pm. Also the competition is a lot stronger in the 8pm hour on BBC1.

It also means Corrie is getting moved yet again, presumably ITV are trying for a record to air it in every primetime slot possible?

There doesn't seem to be anywhere to hide on BBC1 with ITV1 locked down from 7-10pm. At least it's only for one week.

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Back to last night a pretty awful drop for Luther and if it drops any further it's back to the drawing board for BBC1 to find a new successful drama.
dan2008
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I'm sorry, but how is this the best strategy, soap v soap? All evidence suggests the opposite with EastEnders struggling to even beat Emmerdale in the head-to-head clashes. Against BGT it is providing an alternative.”

EastEnders doesn't struggle against Emmerdale really and has beat it by miles many times.

I would have EastEnders run at 7:00pm against Emmerdale
or 9:00pm Against Corrie
and drop Monday& Fridays episode and have an hour-long Sunday

Of course the BBC will leave EastEnders where it is

However the BBC3 reapt should do really well all week
monkeyking87
19-05-2010
Still no news on any potential pick up of Old Christine?
cherubmattd
19-05-2010
CBS has BIG changes...

Monday

8PM: HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER
8:30PM: RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
9PM: TWO AND A HALF MEN
9:30PM: MIKE AND MOLLY
10PM: HAWAII FIVE-O
Tuesday
8PM: NCIS
9PM: NCIS: LA
10PM: THE GOOD WIFE
Wednesday
8PM: SURVIVOR: NICARAGUA
9PM: CRIMINAL MINDS
10PM: THE DEFENDERS
Thursday
8PM: THE BIG BANG THEORY
8:30PM: S*** MY DAD SAYS
9PM: CSI
10PM: THE MENTALIST
Friday
8PM: MEDIUM
9PM: CSI: NY
10PM: BLUE BLOODS
Saturday
8PM: CRIMETIME SATURDAY
10PM: 48 HOURS
Sunday
7PM: 60 MINUTES
8PM: THE AMAZING RACE
9PM: UNDERCOVER BOSS
10PM: CSI: MIAMI
cherubmattd
19-05-2010
For the first time since it's first season, Survivor 21 changes days from Thursday to Wednesday.
CSI: NY goes to Friday
NCIS x2 stays on Tuesday, as does Good Wife.
CSI and Mentalist don't switch.
CSI: Miami goes to Sunday at 10
Big Bang moves, creates 2nd comedy block along with a freshman.
Dancc
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by C14E:
“It gets worse! 2 hours of BGT a night, spread out over 2 1/2 hours and over 6 nights?! Not often that I say Robbie is right, but ITV seem determined to kill off their biggest show by dragging it out.

My early prediction is that the main shows will be down quite a bit (say 20%) and the results shows will be around 20% lower than the main shows. And Corrie will see no long term boost nor will its increase cover the declines in BGT.”

What's your basis for this prediction? I just checked and TXF 2008 dropped on average 15% from the performance show to the results show, towards the end of the series closer to 10%, somewhat less than the 20% you are predicting for BGT. But isn't that a bit different on a Saturday night when people might be heading off out?

I do think BGT will be down on last year overall...obviously...but I'm just not convinced it's going to lose 20% from the performance show to the results show, especially with Corrie in between.
dan2008
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by C14E:
“It gets worse! 2 hours of BGT a night, spread out over 2 1/2 hours and over 6 nights?! Not often that I say Robbie is right, but ITV seem determined to kill off their biggest show by dragging it out.

My early prediction is that the main shows will be down quite a bit (say 20%) and the results shows will be around 20% lower than the main shows. And Corrie will see no long term boost nor will its increase cover the declines in BGT.”

You have a point
The people that don't like Corrie are hardly going to sit and watch it are they so that means they are going to find something else to watch and maybe not return back to BGT at 9:30pm

Ithink the BBC need to think what could air at 9:00pm all week to try and take some viewers from Corrie and stop them returning back to ITV1.

I think Corrie will see the benefit for the week as its going to advertised and seems to be a massive week for them
but i don't think it will work for Corrie the week after though
excel99
19-05-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“ITV1 Schedule w/c 31st May

Assuming MG is correct and the main BGT show runs for 90 minutes each night, then:

Monday:
1900 Coronation Street”

Could Emmerdale go out 1830 instead of the normal bank holiday You've Been Framed repeat.
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