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Old 16-05-2010, 18:09
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A question about The National Lottery:In It to Win It: do the BBC One overnights include people watching the programme on the Red Button stream, where they can play along?

There was also a Red Button simulcast of Over the Rainbow.
i would of thought they are included as you hve to be om bbc1 to get the red button stuff in the first place, im not sure though.
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:18
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Doctor Who timeshifted ratings:

Eleventh Hour (6:20pm) 10.1m
Beast Below (6:15pm) 8.4m
Victory of the Daleks (6:30pm) 7.8m (8.2m with HD)
Time of Angels (6:20pm) 8.6m
Flesh and Stone (6:25pm) 8.5m
The time-shifts for the first episode & the third are insane!

around about 2m.... But then again all the time-shifts are bonkers this year.

My question is... Is there another program on at the moment that get's a massive boost from a final time-shifted rating?
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:27
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I'm surprised anyone buys the idea of Simon Cowell downgrading his role in either of his two big UK talent shows. It's still a good publicity stunt, even though it's been done a few times before, but these two shows mean the world to him.I think he'd have to be dragged away kicking and screaming.
Exactly - the basis of the reports was he was fed up with Amanda and Piers putting rubbish acts through, so he'd quit the audition process completely and let them put through whoever they liked. I don't think so.


Some US news - the NBC fall schedule:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/05/16...revealed/51502


And also Starz to produce a prequel to Spartacus: Blood and Sand following delayed to the production of the second series after the shows lead actor was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/05/11...-prequel/51154

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Old 16-05-2010, 18:31
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Eek! What is 30 Rock going to do without The Office as a lead in???
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:35
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What we were watching 20 years ago:

Rank Programme Date Channel Audience (millions)
1 Neighbours
*aggregated, lunchtime+teatime showing 26 Feb 1990 BBC1 21.16
2 Coronation Street 01 Jan 1990 ITV 19.20
3 Only Fools and Horses 25 Dec 1990 BBC1 17.97
4 It'll Be Alright on the Night 01 Dec 1990 ITV 17.92
5 Film: E.T. 25 Dec 1990 BBC1 17.50
6 Film: A View To A Kill 31 Jan 1990 ITV 16.93
7 The Generation Game 25 Dec 1990 BBC1 16.73
8 World Cup 1990: England v West Germany 03 Jul 1990 BBC1 16.69
9 Inspector Morse w/e 28 Jan 1990 ITV 16.16
10 World Cup 1990: England v Ireland 11 Jun 1990 ITV 15.96
How Neighbours has fallen since 1990 is the most interesting. It gets 2 million viewers if it's lucky now.
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:41
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Ok, the NBC Fall schedule...

Monday
8-9p Chuck
9-10p The Event
10-11p Chase
Tuesday
8-10p Biggest Loser
10-11p Parenthood
Wednesday
8-9p Undercovers
9-10p Law & Order: SVU
10-11p Law & Order: Los Angeles
Thursday
8-8:30p Community
8:30-9p 30 Rock
9-9:30p The Office
9:30-10p Outsourced
10-11p Love Bites
Friday
8-9p Who Do You Think You Are / School Pride
9-10p Dateline
10-11p Outlaw
Saturday
REPEATS
Sunday
7-8pm Football Night in America
8-11p Sunday Night Football
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:45
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What we were watching 20 years ago:

Rank Programme Date Channel Audience (millions)
1 Neighbours
*aggregated, lunchtime+teatime showing 26 Feb 1990 BBC1 21.16
2 Coronation Street 01 Jan 1990 ITV 19.20
3 Only Fools and Horses 25 Dec 1990 BBC1 17.97
4 It'll Be Alright on the Night 01 Dec 1990 ITV 17.92
5 Film: E.T. 25 Dec 1990 BBC1 17.50
6 Film: A View To A Kill 31 Jan 1990 ITV 16.93
7 The Generation Game 25 Dec 1990 BBC1 16.73
8 World Cup 1990: England v West Germany 03 Jul 1990 BBC1 16.69
9 Inspector Morse w/e 28 Jan 1990 ITV 16.16
10 World Cup 1990: England v Ireland 11 Jun 1990 ITV 15.96
How Neighbours has fallen since 1990 is the most interesting. It gets 2 million viewers if it's lucky now.
I think BARB must have missed EastEnders off that list. I'm sure some early 1990 episodes passed 20m including the omnibus, which they were still counting in those days, as they did for the Neighbours repeat.
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:49
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The Cube will be pushed further into the autumn and will be the lead in to the live shows rather than the audition shows.
Which begs the question - where will Harry Hill's TV Burp go?

I think BARB must have missed EastEnders off that list. I'm sure some early 1990 episodes passed 20m including the omnibus, which they were still counting in those days, as they did for the Neighbours repeat.
Yup, they've missed it off. The record books will never show it, but EastEnders was the 2nd most watched TV show of 1990 with 20.3m.
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:50
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I think BARB must have missed EastEnders off that list. I'm sure some early 1990 episodes passed 20m including the omnibus, which they were still counting in those days, as they did for the Neighbours repeat.
I think EE was going through a bit of a slump at that time with very depressing storylines and the absence of Dirty Den could have turned a few viewers away. Also the power of Bond was still very much in evidence with the premiere of AVTAK getting into the top ten, although this was well down on the Connery premieres in the seventies that could pull in 23 million( videos were in most households by 1990).
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:52
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looks like NBC are saving some stuff for mid season, plenty of the new & returning shows not on that schedule.
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Old 16-05-2010, 18:52
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Yup, they've missed it off. The record books will never show it, but EastEnders was the 2nd most watched TV show of 1990 with 20.3m.
Thanks, rzt. Glad to know my memory wasn't playing tricks on me.
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Old 16-05-2010, 19:03
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Interesting that Undercovers is on Wednesdays, if it were me I would out on Mondays and save Chuck for midseason. Wednesday 8pm is quite weak so I can see why NBC scheduled it there but I can see CBS or FOX put an existing hit show there as a spoiler.

Law and Order: LA at 10pm is interesting though SVU is going to get killed not only by Criminal Minds but Modern Family as well.
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Old 16-05-2010, 19:03
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looks like NBC are saving some stuff for mid season, plenty of the new & returning shows not on that schedule.
It does seem much safer than I expected. I was assuming it would pretty much be new stuff across the week, but that's hardly the case at all, and indeed I don't think NBC will end up with any more new content than the other networks.
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Old 16-05-2010, 19:09
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there is still a fair bit of new stuff to come.

Harrys Law
The Cape
Friends With Benefits
Next
Perfect Couples

Meanwhile returning show like Parks & Recreation, The Apprentice, Minute to Win It & The Marriage Ref, all need homes.

NBC will be able to make some drastic changes at mid season, with both returning shows & new shows, it may not be the most shocking schedule, but its got some depth to it.

Friday 8pm: Who Do You Think You Are? / School Pride, will almost certianly need replacing by midseason, if not sooner, step up Minute It to Win It or The Apprentice.

would not be too surprised if LOLA got a specific repeat slot, like SVU did last fall.
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Old 16-05-2010, 19:33
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As we've just revamped the site, I wondered whether you could give us any suggestions of improving our UK/US ratings reports?
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Old 16-05-2010, 19:37
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Any figures for Amir Khan's return to ITV on The Big Fight Live earlier on this morning, or will we have to wait until tomorrow?
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Old 16-05-2010, 20:02
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"Ice cream weather" on the way next week, with temps into the low 20s by Wednesday as high pressure establishes over the UK.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22259781/

The soaps are going to have another bad week I feel! Did someone say Hollyoaks had a big storyline planned?
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Old 16-05-2010, 20:08
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As we've just revamped the site, I wondered whether you could give us any suggestions of improving our UK/US ratings reports?
I've noticed in the last couple of weeks, there haven't been regular updates from DS - often DS has updated about 3 or 4 days of articles on the Sunday. So it would be good to have more frequent updates .

I'd also like to see more ratings reported from outside the 7-10pm hour. Stuff like the news, teatime hour (which is really competitive) and also with the World Cup coming up it would be good to have the afternoon match ratings reported. Cheers.
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Old 16-05-2010, 20:08
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Slightly low all round last night - funny that Britain's Got Talent dropped slightly in share by the Lottery gained. Nothing to be concerned about though, but I agree with those who say maybe this is a similar lull that The X Factor suffered in the fourth series - and will be followed by a revamp.

BBC1 had a good night all round - Doctor Who will no doubt timeshift excellently. For ITV1, The Whole 19 Yards seems consistent and offers something different for the non-sci fi audience. I guess it's 'good' news The Prisoner didn't lose anymore!
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Old 16-05-2010, 20:22
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Slightly low all round last night - funny that Britain's Got Talent dropped slightly in share by the Lottery gained. Nothing to be concerned about though, but I agree with those who say maybe this is a similar lull that The X Factor suffered in the fourth series - and will be followed by a revamp.

BBC1 had a good night all round - Doctor Who will no doubt timeshift excellently. For ITV1, The Whole 19 Yards seems consistent and offers something different for the non-sci fi audience. I guess it's 'good' news The Prisoner didn't lose anymore!
Not sure if it can react so quickly but the Lottery show was about as dramatic as it has ever been.
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Old 16-05-2010, 21:05
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Not sure if it can react so quickly but the Lottery show was about as dramatic as it has ever been.
You can say that again.

Deal or No Deal was pretty dramatic as well today with an offer of £101,000 (not in play, dealt at £17,000) and the £250k coming to the table before a last minute swap.

I often find with Deal that these big dramatic games seem to crop up within themed weeks, and today's was no exception, rounding off a week of "Cops and Robbers." Call me cynical, but it is no coincidence.

Still, it's perfectly harmless TV for teatime.
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Old 16-05-2010, 21:05
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As we've just revamped the site, I wondered whether you could give us any suggestions of improving our UK/US ratings reports?
Making them easier to find would be a good start. Also I find I seem to get two versions of the home page - one with the blogs and the broadcasting/digital TV news listed (though hidden at the bottom!), and one without all that.

I'd certainly like the broadcasting/media news to be more prominently featured on the home page rather than the useless celebrity tittle tattle.
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Old 16-05-2010, 21:16
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As we've just revamped the site, I wondered whether you could give us any suggestions of improving our UK/US ratings reports?
Perhaps you could summarise the main ratings in words and then have a table of the ratings from that night.
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Old 16-05-2010, 21:20
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As we've just revamped the site, I wondered whether you could give us any suggestions of improving our UK/US ratings reports?
Some things which I think others would agree with:

1) more ratings outside of 8pm to 10pm
2) more peak figures reported, i.e. sport events. Don't pretend sport events don't exist or are meaningless.
3) report important figures outside of primetime, i.e. sporting events or other important programmes (for instance political stuff or the teatime shows, or even the breakfast shows when primetime is shabby)
4) table format for primetime stuff to follow what MG and Broadcast have started
5) less of X had that, Y had this - which becomes tedious
6) in-depth focus on specific demographics maybe once a week, i.e. with dramas did well in 16-34; ABC1 etc.
7) report ratings when they come out, not 24/48 hours later.

Suggestion 6 might be pushing things though. Anyone agree with the above 7?
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Old 16-05-2010, 21:21
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Making them easier to find would be a good start. Also I find I seem to get two versions of the home page - one with the blogs and the broadcasting/digital TV news listed (though hidden at the bottom!), and one without all that.

I'd certainly like the broadcasting/media news to be more prominently featured on the home page rather than the useless celebrity tittle tattle.
I agree with the sentiment but Digital Spy is a business first and foremost and the showbiz stories get more clicks.

Depressing, but true. You can hardly blame them therefore, for going down the more advertiser friendly route. It's a completely logical progression for the site, whether we like it or not.

At least they are still covering media news, albeit half-heartedly and in nowhere near the same depth as when I joined back in 2004.

My only request for the team is that someone somewhere finds a fix for the dreaded invisipost...
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